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Windows 7: create account equal administrator buit-in


10 Sep 2010   #1

windows 7 64bit ultimate
 
 
create account equal administrator buit-in

i have software working only administrator buil-in

i find partial solutions use standar administrators account with enable "shortcut - compatibility - run administrator etc" but not working for total solution.

there is a way to create other users with administrator buil-it powers???

thanks


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10 Sep 2010   #2

Windows 7 Ultimate (x64)
 
 

The short answer is - No.

now, why is that that your software only runs for the built-in account? How did you install the software? Is it possible that you have used the built-in account to install the software and inadvertently installed it for that account only? This would be a good reason why the software would not work for anybody else.
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10 Sep 2010   #3

windows 7 64bit ultimate
 
 

the software is old and wants to write into system folders when he wants. also using it through ixplorer
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10 Sep 2010   #4
Microsoft MVP

Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center 64 bit
 
 

As a test try turning UAC off and running it from your normal user account.
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10 Sep 2010   #5

windows 7 64bit ultimate
 
 

not working...i correct ntfs permisisone disable uac but standard user redirect file on virtual disk and virtual registry.
the administrator write direct on absolute path
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10 Sep 2010   #6
Microsoft MVP

Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center 64 bit
 
 

I don't understand what you are saying? Is this account a standard user or an administrator account? If it's just a standard user account turning off UAC will not be enough, there will still be restrictions on what you can do.
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10 Sep 2010   #7

windows 7 64bit ultimate
 
 

if use administrate save file on c:\program files\etc

if use users save file on "virtual disk"
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11 Sep 2010   #8

Windows 7 Ultimate (x64)
 
 

OK, alvaro99, I think I did not understand your first post. There are several types of accounts in Windows 7 known as Groups. A user account may belong to one or several Groups. One such Group is Administrators. An account belonging to this Group would be labeled as administrator account and would have sufficiently more privileges compared to a standard user account.

There is however an additional, the so-called built-in Administrator account, which has nearly infinite power (it's different from the administrator accounts I just mentions and it's more powerful). This account is unique and cannot be duplicated. That's what I meant in my previous post.

Now, a solution to your particular problem is to add your user account to the administrators group. Then you could try your program and if it's still refused the ability to write into system folders, then you will have to elevate it by modifying the shortcut making it run "as administrator".

A brief explanation is the following. Windows protects system folders. Therefore "standard users" are not allowed to modify them in any way. If a standard user runs a program that needs to write in a system folder, then the system re-directs to a mirror folder called "virtualstore". On the other hands, administrators are able to modify the system folders, so if you run a program "as administrator" (i.e. with elevated privileges) then it can write to system folders directly without using the virtualstore.

Now, for most programs this is not a problem, Windows 7 manages virtualstore for them and they would not know the difference, unless the folder path where the program wants to write its data is hard coded, i.e. the developers have written the explicit path into the code. It seems that this is your situation. Again, it can be solved by running the program "as administrator".

Hope that clarifies the issue now.
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11 Sep 2010   #9

windows 7 64bit ultimate
 
 

everything you say is true and I knew already and I'm already using the system
"as administrator"

Some programs use the absolute path and the Virtuastore and virtual registry creates problems

in some cases I had to use iexplorer as well "as administrator" because the program runs on the web site and want to write to disk C with absolute path

if I could raise the Vstore and Vregistry would have solved many problems

the end use as administrator solves many problems but I get so many support calls per day for these problems ... I tried this for a way to clone administrator account..

now I'm crazy for not installing windows7 only Administrator account active

I preferred accounts w2000 where as if someone was in the group administrators had all the powers Administators
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11 Sep 2010   #10

Windows 7 Ultimate (x64)
 
 

I am not sure what do you mean by "using the system as administrator". I suppose your account is part of the Administrators group. Day-to-day use of the built-in Administrator account is strongly discouraged as it may lead to serious security problems.

Now, do I understand correctly that your troubling program is web-based? Then I guess you have to use the browser with elevated privileges. Alternatively, assuming you know the exact path which the program is using you could simply edit the permissions on the destination folder and allow your program (or even Everyone, if all else fails) to write to that folder. I hope however that this is some particular folder in ProgramData or AppData and not anything like System32 which I would not recommend to open.
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