Stop Application Data folder replicating?

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  1. B21956
    Posts : 1
    Win 7 Home Premium - 64 bit
       New #71

    Keeping it simple for my own sake...

    When I look at the folder size of All users/Application Data my system tells me:

    Using FeeCommander - this 'tree' is 33,373,432kB (33GB) and the drive has 27.6GB free
    Using Explorer the total space reported used is is between 2-3GB and the drive has 27.5GB free.

    When I add up the space used by other folders (NOT including the Application Data 'tree') I get ~73GB used which would leave ~29GB free.

    Is the consensus that this is "phantom" usage (i.e.; if I were to delete this entire "tree" would I 'recover' any disk space)???

    BTW - This is one of the reasons I prefer Linux (RHEL) to the "Bill Gates Virus", a.k.a.; Windows
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  3. d53
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    Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit
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    MacGyvr said:
    You do not need to look inside these junction points. You can access those locations from elsewhere in the file system!
    Does anyone know what locations MacGyvr was referring to?
    I have some app data / profiles I need to import to win7 and can't see how to get to these locations without messing with permissions.

    And if we really can open these folders directly, then why would these hard folder Links NOT allow an admin to simply be forwarded to the right folder.
    Anyone with admin rights is obviously going to want to have access to their profiles.
    Thanks
    Last edited by d53; 17 Mar 2014 at 18:43.
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  4. logicearth
    Posts : 5,642
    Windows 10 Pro (x64)
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    d53, depends which location you need.

    User specific:
    C:/Documents and Setting/(username)/Application Data = C:/Users/(username)/Appdata/Roaming

    C:/Documents and Setting/(username)/Local Settings = C:/Users/(username)/Appdata/Local

    Everyone:
    C:/Documents and Setting/All Users/ = C:/ProgramData

    There is no reason or need to change the permissions on anything.
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  6. d53
    Posts : 2
    Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit
       New #74

    Thanks logicearth,
    Will use those locations for direct access and use JunctionBox to restore default Links.
    This sure seems strange to me why these Links can't just forward us to where they need to go -- without requiring us to first change permissions for those links.
    MS had to know that ppl would want to get to their app data / profiles.
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  7. logicearth
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    Windows 10 Pro (x64)
       New #75

    Those links are not for users. They are only there for broken applications that hard code the path. They are not there for you that is why they deny access. Use the real location which was just provided.
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  8. Moulin
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    Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
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    I am new to Windows 7, having inherited a laptop from a family member. Up to now I've been happily using Windows XP on my two desktops and a laptop - if it aint broke ...
    I'm a retired IT Professional, and when looking for a file, found the 25-times duplication of the Application Data folder.
    When I found this thread, I totally agreed with one of the early posts that it's MY computer and I want access to EVERYTHING!
    It is a principle I strongly beileve in, but I granted myself access to as much as I could for very practical reasons - I've never liked a single one of the 'Normal' templates that have come with every version of Word, so one of my first tasks with a new PC or version of Word is always to amend the 'Normal' template to MY preferences. When I did this on the Windows 7 HP with Word 2010, it didn't seem to work first time. Thinking I'd somehow cocked it up, I did it again ... and again, but the changes didn't take effect. After a lot of head scratching, I eventually realised why it wasn't working - despite being an Administrator, and only user, I didn't have access to the default location for Templates! Totally, stupidly, ridiculous [IMHO].
    As I didn't want to go through File, New, Template every time I wanted a new document, I changed all the permissions, so I wouldn't have the problem with Word or any other part of Office.
    It was only by chance today that I discovered the 'Application Data' duplication.
    I have now run Junction Box, to solve this problem, but I can't nowcheck whether it has worked because I no longer have access to the Application Data folder! [I think that's what they call "Catch 22".]
    I haven't yet verified it, but it seems at first glance that the Junction Box changes have caused Word to somehow revert to the original MS Normal template, but again I can't verify that because I can't access the Templates folder.
    If anyone has any suggestions, other than never using any MS software, I'd be pleased to hear them.
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  10. Callender
    Posts : 4,776
    Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
       New #77

    AppData


    Well the correct way to access Appdata is via the following paths:

    Application Data - C:\Users\{user name}\AppData\Roaming
    Cookies - C:\Users\{user name}\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies
    History - C:\Users\{user name}\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\History
    Local Settings - C:\Users\{user name}\AppData\Local
    My Documents - C:\Users\{user name}\Documents
    NetHood - C:\Users\{user name}\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Network Shortcuts
    PrintHood - C:\Users\{user name}\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Printer Shortcuts
    Recent - C:\Users\{user name}\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Recent
    SendTo - C:\Users\{user name}\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\SendTo
    Start Menu - C:\Users\{user name}\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu
    Templates - C:\Users\{user name}\AppData\Roaming
    Temporary Internet Files - C:\Users\{user name}\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Temporary Internet Files

    What you're not supposed to get access to is:


    C:Users\username\Application Data

    or

    C:/Documents and Settings/

    If you try you get "Access Denied" and if you take ownership to get access then you get the replicating folder problem.

    My understanding is that to fix it you'd need to delete all of the replicated folders/ subfolders before running Junction Point. If you haven't managed to do that you need to delete folders like this:

    C:\Users\Username\AppData\Local\Application Data\Application Data\*

    In other words delete the folder shown in Bold Type and any further Application Data subfolders.

    The screenshot shows what you're supposed to access in green and avoid in red.

    Stop Application Data folder replicating?-appdata.jpg
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  11. logicearth
    Posts : 5,642
    Windows 10 Pro (x64)
       New #78

    No! Do not delete anything within "Application Data" that is real data! You should only delete tge root "Application Data" folder only. However, be aware if the Application Data folder does not have what appears to be an "Arrow" in the corner, DO NOT DELETE IT.
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  12. lifemare
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    Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
       New #79

    I have this same issue, but after reading through this whole thread i'm still unsure where exactly is the "Solved" part in the thread title....

    I must have at least 8 levels of "Application Data" folders, and when i try scanning it (i'm trying to use Disk Analyzer) it gets stuck in an endless loop going back and forth reading the same folders....

    I'm afraid to use JunctionBox or any other automated solution, because my OS has folders in English and Portuguese and my user folder actually uses special characters (something i regret not changing before i spent huge amounts of time customizing my system). This has actually caused me problems on other occasions, because some programs had trouble accessing that folder. My users folder for instance is a complete mess and i don't have the know-how to clean it up. I have a "Documents" folder sitting on C:\ (instead of C:\Users), i have a "José" user folder, and a "Jos�", and a "José" (the one in use), although the only single user account i have is named "Multivac"!

    So i was very interested in using the alternative option of changing the security settings for those folders:
    whocares said:
    Deny - Everyone - List folder / read data - <not inherited> - This folder only
    Could someone please provide detailed instructions on how to do this?
    I have full control for SYSTEM, Multivac, and Administrators. And only "Deny - Special Permissions" for Everyone. Yet when i attempt to edit that i get an access denied error...
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  13. A1955Harley
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    Windows 7 Professional
       New #80

    I tried to download the program and find it has a tr\agent in it.
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