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Intel Core i7 920
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GA-EX58-UD3R Rev 1 F11 Bios
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Did you notice that they're benchmarking against the 'Release Candidate'? This was release early last year and there have been significant changes since it RTM'd :)
 

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Compaq Desktop
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Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
AMD Sempron Dual Core
Memory
3GB
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NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430
Screen Resolution
1024x768
Hard Drives
150GB Sata
Orbital Shark said:
Did you notice that they're benchmarking against the 'Release Candidate'? This was release early last year and there have been significant changes since it RTM'd :)
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Yes I did, are you saying that the RTM will now offer better battery life for netbooks? Cause:p I doubt it...
 

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Windows 7 Ultimate 64bitIntel Core i7 9208 Gigs DDR3 RAM @ 1600mhz per sticGTX 285
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
CPU
Intel Core i7 920
Motherboard
GA-EX58-UD3R Rev 1 F11 Bios
Memory
8 Gigs DDR3 RAM @ 1600mhz per stic
Graphics Card(s)
GTX 285
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 19inch 16:10
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Western Digital x2 500gig 7200rpm in Raid 0
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OCZ Modular Extreme 700W PSU
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Antec 1200
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Coolermaster V8 Cpu Cooler
Hi there
I recently bought an acer aspire one AO150 which came pre-installed with W7 Starter.

System has 1 GB RAM and the newer AMD processor.

I removed W7 Starter and all the "crapware" that is usually installed on store bought computers and installed W7 PRO 32 bit instead.

Works fine. Also installed Office 2010 and Photoshop CS5 (just photoshop -- not the whole CS5 suite).

System performs perfectly adequately although running photoshop for long periods on a small netbook isn't ideal. It's fine though in a Hotel room while travelling.

If you get these small netbooks there is NO reason why you have to put up with W7 starter.

Almost ANY W7 32 bit edition will run just fine on these.


BTW if you do change or re-install the OS on these acer netbooks download the drivers before you start.

The one's you will need are the WIRELESS, CARD READER and WEBCAM.

For WIFI there are two drivers and for the webcam 3 drivers -- download them all and after you've re-installed your OS just try them out in turn. Only the correct one will work -- this depends on the actual hardware in the netbook.

You can also get rid of the "hidden" restore partition as well since you won't need it any more

Cheers
jimbo
 

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Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and se...Intel i7 Intel i58GB, 16GBOn Motherboard
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PC/Desktop
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Custom built, several laptops HP/ASUS
OS
Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
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Intel i7 Intel i5
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8GB, 16GB
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On Motherboard
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Realtek HD audio
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Apple Cinema display, Samsung LCD
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1920 X 1080
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4 X 1TB SATA
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Toshiba wireless laser
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> 20MB up
SevenNerd,
Go with Win 7. I have an Asus netbook that came with XP. I wiped the disk clean and installed Win 7 Ultimate. Performance is better and the OS is much, much better.

Oh yes, at the time I did this ASUS didn't even offer drivers for my model. Since that time they now offer Win 7 drivers, but I'm happy with the way the system is.
 

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MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bitAMD A10-4600M6.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 798MHz (11-11-12-28)AMD Radeon HD 7660G
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Toshiba Satellite S875D-S7239 laptop
OS
MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
CPU
AMD A10-4600M
Motherboard
AMD Pumori (Socket FT1)
Memory
6.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 798MHz (11-11-12-28)
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AMD Radeon HD 7660G
Sound Card
High Definition Audio Device
Monitor(s) Displays
Generic PnP Monitor (1600x900@60Hz)
Screen Resolution
1600x900@60Hz
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SSD 119GB Corsair CSSD-V128GB2 ATA Device
Keyboard
Standard PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse
HP Wireless Optical Mobile Mouse Model FHA-3410
Internet Speed
What the local pub, local coffee shop offers.
Other Info
Optical Drive:MATSHITA BD-CMB UJ160B ATA Device


Also have an Asus ha1002xp netbook with Win 7 Ultimate installed.
Understood, by the way isnt the reason net books use windows 7 starter is for its low resource count?
 

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Windows 7 Ultimate 64bitIntel Core i7 9208 Gigs DDR3 RAM @ 1600mhz per sticGTX 285
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
CPU
Intel Core i7 920
Motherboard
GA-EX58-UD3R Rev 1 F11 Bios
Memory
8 Gigs DDR3 RAM @ 1600mhz per stic
Graphics Card(s)
GTX 285
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 19inch 16:10
Screen Resolution
1440x900
Hard Drives
Western Digital x2 500gig 7200rpm in Raid 0
PSU
OCZ Modular Extreme 700W PSU
Case
Antec 1200
Internet Speed
15mbps down 2 up
Other Info
Coolermaster V8 Cpu Cooler
I have a Samsung N140 that came with 1 GB RAM and Win 7 starter. It is S L O W but I wouldn't consider XP. The CPU usage is poor with this system but I just attribute that to the CPU. I see 50 to 100% usage a lot. I upgraded it to 2GB of RAM as it was also showing high RAM usage with relatively nothing open.

The battery life is rated at 8 hours after full charge, I haven't tested that but the battery life is very good.
 

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Windows 10 64 bitIntel i7 6700K16GB Corsair DominatorIntel CPU Graphics
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PC/Desktop
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My Own Build
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Windows 10 64 bit
CPU
Intel i7 6700K
Motherboard
ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero
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16GB Corsair Dominator
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Intel CPU Graphics
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RealTek
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27" Dell S2719dgf
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2560X1440
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1 TB Samsung 850 EVO SSD for Win 10 Pro
500GB Samsung 850 EVO SSD for Win 10 Insider
2 TB drive for backup
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EVGA Supernova 750G2
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BeQuiet Silent Base 600
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Deepcool Captain 120EX
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Microsoft Wireless 2000
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Microsoft wireless
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100 MB/sec (Cable)
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Microsoft Defender and Malwarebytes
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Edge/Firefox
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Cakewalk (Sonar) by BandLab and Studio One 4.1 Pro recording studio software. MOTU 896Mk3 Hybrid recording interface, Frontier Tranzport wireless control unit, Behringer X-Touch Control Surface.
Five USB connected optical drives for CD Audio production using Nero BurningROM
jimbo45 said:
Hi there
I recently bought an acer aspire one AO150 which came pre-installed with W7 Starter.

System has 1 GB RAM and the newer AMD processor.

I removed W7 Starter and all the "crapware" that is usually installed on store bought computers and installed W7 PRO 32 bit instead.

Works fine. Also installed Office 2010 and Photoshop CS5 (just photoshop -- not the whole CS5 suite).

System performs perfectly adequately although running photoshop for long periods on a small netbook isn't ideal. It's fine though in a Hotel room while travelling.

If you get these small netbooks there is NO reason why you have to put up with W7 starter.

Almost ANY W7 32 bit edition will run just fine on these.


BTW if you do change or re-install the OS on these acer netbooks download the drivers before you start.

The one's you will need are the WIRELESS, CARD READER and WEBCAM.

For WIFI there are two drivers and for the webcam 3 drivers -- download them all and after you've re-installed your OS just try them out in turn. Only the correct one will work -- this depends on the actual hardware in the netbook.

You can also get rid of the "hidden" restore partition as well since you won't need it any more

Cheers
jimbo
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I recently installed Win 7 Pro 32 on 3 Acer Aspire One AOA150 netbooks with the older ATOM processor. Win 7 installed all needed drivers except the one for the built-in card reader. I also maxed the RAM out on all 3 to 1.5G. Performance is good, as least as good as it was with XP.
 

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W10 Pro desktop, W11 laptop, W11 Pro tablet (...3.7Ghz 8700K i7, i7-11800H, i7-1065G716G desktop, 16G laptop, 4G tabletAMD Radeon RX580, RTX 3060, Intel Iris Plus
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PC/Desktop
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Home Built desktop, Dell G15 5511 Gaming laptop,MS Surface Pro 7 tablet
OS
W10 Pro desktop, W11 laptop, W11 Pro tablet (all 64-bit)
CPU
3.7Ghz 8700K i7, i7-11800H, i7-1065G7
Motherboard
ASUS TUF Z370-Pro Gaming in desktop
Memory
16G desktop, 16G laptop, 4G tablet
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AMD Radeon RX580, RTX 3060, Intel Iris Plus
Sound Card
High Definition Audio (Built-in to mobo)
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Samsung U32J59 32" (2x), 15.6", 12"
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3840x2160, 3840x2160, 1920x1080, 2160x1440
Hard Drives
500G SSD for OS; 2T, 10T & 15T HDDs for Data on Desktop, 1TB SSD laptop, 128G SSD tablet.
PSU
Corsair CX 750M
Case
Antec 100
Cooling
CM 212+
Keyboard
IBM Model M - used continuously since 1986
Mouse
Microsoft Pro IntelliMouse
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400M down 8M up
Antivirus
Windows Defender
Browser
FireFox
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Built my first computer (8Mhz 8088cpu, 640K RAM, 20MB HDD, 2 360K floppy drives) in 1985 and have been building them for myself, relatives and friends ever since.
Just a couple of things.

1) MS is due to pull life support from XP at some point in the near future, keep that in mind.

2) Most netbooks come with 1 gb ram and onboard graphics which means the GPU will suck a part of the memory. So try maxing your ram. Remember the recommended minimum ram for win7 is 2gb.

3) A lot of benchmarking studies say XP gives better battery life. But if you arent going to be moving around that much, it doesnt matter.

4) Consider junking either option and buying a win7 home premium. For a few extra dollars you'll get a full featured edition.
 

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Windows 7 x64 pro/ Windows 7 x86 Pro/ XP SP3 x86
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Too many to describe...
OS
Windows 7 x64 pro/ Windows 7 x86 Pro/ XP SP3 x86
Bill,

Straight from Microsoft:
f you want to run Windows 7 on your PC, here's what it takes:


  • 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor.
  • 1 gigabyte (GB) RAM (32-bit) or 2 GB RAM (64-bit).
  • 16 GB available hard disk space (32-bit) or 20 GB (64-bit).
  • DirectX 9 graphics device with WDDM 1.0 or higher driver.
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That said, I always recommend two gigs as a practical minimum.
 

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MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bitAMD A10-4600M6.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 798MHz (11-11-12-28)AMD Radeon HD 7660G
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba Satellite S875D-S7239 laptop
OS
MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
CPU
AMD A10-4600M
Motherboard
AMD Pumori (Socket FT1)
Memory
6.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 798MHz (11-11-12-28)
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon HD 7660G
Sound Card
High Definition Audio Device
Monitor(s) Displays
Generic PnP Monitor (1600x900@60Hz)
Screen Resolution
1600x900@60Hz
Hard Drives
SSD 119GB Corsair CSSD-V128GB2 ATA Device
Keyboard
Standard PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse
HP Wireless Optical Mobile Mouse Model FHA-3410
Internet Speed
What the local pub, local coffee shop offers.
Other Info
Optical Drive:MATSHITA BD-CMB UJ160B ATA Device


Also have an Asus ha1002xp netbook with Win 7 Ultimate installed.
Karl, I meant recommended RAM 2 gig as in amount needed to run smoothly, probably didnt write it clearly enough.
 

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Windows 7 x64 pro/ Windows 7 x86 Pro/ XP SP3 x86
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Too many to describe...
OS
Windows 7 x64 pro/ Windows 7 x86 Pro/ XP SP3 x86
Understood thanks for all the help guys, by the way isnt the reason net books use windows 7 starter is for its low resource count? If not I think im just going to load ultimate on it...
 

My Computer My Computer

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Windows 7 Ultimate 64bitIntel Core i7 9208 Gigs DDR3 RAM @ 1600mhz per sticGTX 285
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
CPU
Intel Core i7 920
Motherboard
GA-EX58-UD3R Rev 1 F11 Bios
Memory
8 Gigs DDR3 RAM @ 1600mhz per stic
Graphics Card(s)
GTX 285
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 19inch 16:10
Screen Resolution
1440x900
Hard Drives
Western Digital x2 500gig 7200rpm in Raid 0
PSU
OCZ Modular Extreme 700W PSU
Case
Antec 1200
Internet Speed
15mbps down 2 up
Other Info
Coolermaster V8 Cpu Cooler
SevenNerd said:
Understood thanks for all the help guys, by the way isnt the reason net books use windows 7 starter is for its low resource count? If not I think im just going to load ultimate on it...
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The reason they use Starter is because it cost like $5 (for OEMs) with all the restrictions. I have a Dell Mini 10v, see "Other Info" in My System Specs, and put Ultimate on it. Now here is the key part, YOU WANT TO BE RUNNING AERO. Starter does not have Aero so you need at least Home Premium. Other then that it does not matter which version you use. They all perform the same.
 

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Windows 10 Pro (x64)Intel Core i7-3930K (3.2GHz - 4.5GHz)4x Samsung 4GB PC3-12800 DDR3 (16GB 1600MHz)Nvidia Geforce GTX 690
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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Alienware Aurora ALX R4
OS
Windows 10 Pro (x64)
CPU
Intel Core i7-3930K (3.2GHz - 4.5GHz)
Motherboard
Alienware Aurora-R4 x79
Memory
4x Samsung 4GB PC3-12800 DDR3 (16GB 1600MHz)
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia Geforce GTX 690
Sound Card
SteelSeries Siberia Elite
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell UltraSharp U3011
Screen Resolution
2560x1600
Hard Drives
Samsung 850 Pro 256 GB, Seagate 1TB Desktop Hybrid HDD, 2x Western Digital 4TB Green HDD
PSU
875W Some Dell PSU <.<
Case
Alienware Aurora ALX
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Custom Liquid Cooling (EK CPU & GPU blocks) dual EK 480RAD
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Logitech G710+ Mechanical
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Logitech G700s
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Verizon Fios (50 mbps average)
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Server: Intel NUC D54250WYK: i5-4250U, 16GB, 256 GB mSATA, Windows Server 2012 R2
Ok well I just tried out 7 Ultimate on it and it was a little to slow for my taste so Im currently putting xp back on it.

How come the xp installation part "setup is copying files" is taking so long? Windows 7 Installed via usb in about 23 minutes.....

I was googleing around and supposedly I need a smartdve.exe file or somthing?
 

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Windows 7 Ultimate 64bitIntel Core i7 9208 Gigs DDR3 RAM @ 1600mhz per sticGTX 285
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
CPU
Intel Core i7 920
Motherboard
GA-EX58-UD3R Rev 1 F11 Bios
Memory
8 Gigs DDR3 RAM @ 1600mhz per stic
Graphics Card(s)
GTX 285
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 19inch 16:10
Screen Resolution
1440x900
Hard Drives
Western Digital x2 500gig 7200rpm in Raid 0
PSU
OCZ Modular Extreme 700W PSU
Case
Antec 1200
Internet Speed
15mbps down 2 up
Other Info
Coolermaster V8 Cpu Cooler
The reason Windows 7 installs faster is because it uses images (like Norton Ghost?) and the expanding part, de-compressing is what takes most of the time.
 

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Windows 10 Pro (x64)Intel Core i7-3930K (3.2GHz - 4.5GHz)4x Samsung 4GB PC3-12800 DDR3 (16GB 1600MHz)Nvidia Geforce GTX 690
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PC/Desktop
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Alienware Aurora ALX R4
OS
Windows 10 Pro (x64)
CPU
Intel Core i7-3930K (3.2GHz - 4.5GHz)
Motherboard
Alienware Aurora-R4 x79
Memory
4x Samsung 4GB PC3-12800 DDR3 (16GB 1600MHz)
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Nvidia Geforce GTX 690
Sound Card
SteelSeries Siberia Elite
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell UltraSharp U3011
Screen Resolution
2560x1600
Hard Drives
Samsung 850 Pro 256 GB, Seagate 1TB Desktop Hybrid HDD, 2x Western Digital 4TB Green HDD
PSU
875W Some Dell PSU <.<
Case
Alienware Aurora ALX
Cooling
Custom Liquid Cooling (EK CPU & GPU blocks) dual EK 480RAD
Keyboard
Logitech G710+ Mechanical
Mouse
Logitech G700s
Internet Speed
Verizon Fios (50 mbps average)
Other Info
Server: Intel NUC D54250WYK: i5-4250U, 16GB, 256 GB mSATA, Windows Server 2012 R2
wim files are not 100% images. the Wim format is available via wikipedia and other sources, such as MS.

If you download and install the Windows Automated Installation Kit (WAIK) then you will find a complete discussion of the Wim format and the tools to generate and modify a WIM file.

However, since I've installed both xp and win 7 to a netbook, I can say that the install time difference was insignificant. True, in both cases I installed a download from TechNet.

Maybe I'll actually clock the times the next time I go thru those gryations. I've never worried about the install times since the end result was more important to me.
 

My Computer My Computer

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MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bitAMD A10-4600M6.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 798MHz (11-11-12-28)AMD Radeon HD 7660G
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba Satellite S875D-S7239 laptop
OS
MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
CPU
AMD A10-4600M
Motherboard
AMD Pumori (Socket FT1)
Memory
6.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 798MHz (11-11-12-28)
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon HD 7660G
Sound Card
High Definition Audio Device
Monitor(s) Displays
Generic PnP Monitor (1600x900@60Hz)
Screen Resolution
1600x900@60Hz
Hard Drives
SSD 119GB Corsair CSSD-V128GB2 ATA Device
Keyboard
Standard PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse
HP Wireless Optical Mobile Mouse Model FHA-3410
Internet Speed
What the local pub, local coffee shop offers.
Other Info
Optical Drive:MATSHITA BD-CMB UJ160B ATA Device


Also have an Asus ha1002xp netbook with Win 7 Ultimate installed.
True, I ended up fixing the crazy install lag by formating my usb with the FAT16 LBA Format in wintoflash. XP install is now flying!!! : )
 

My Computer My Computer

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Windows 7 Ultimate 64bitIntel Core i7 9208 Gigs DDR3 RAM @ 1600mhz per sticGTX 285
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit
CPU
Intel Core i7 920
Motherboard
GA-EX58-UD3R Rev 1 F11 Bios
Memory
8 Gigs DDR3 RAM @ 1600mhz per stic
Graphics Card(s)
GTX 285
Sound Card
Realtek HD Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 19inch 16:10
Screen Resolution
1440x900
Hard Drives
Western Digital x2 500gig 7200rpm in Raid 0
PSU
OCZ Modular Extreme 700W PSU
Case
Antec 1200
Internet Speed
15mbps down 2 up
Other Info
Coolermaster V8 Cpu Cooler
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