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Windows 7: Windows 7 cannot see server - GOING NUTS!!


17 Oct 2010   #1

Windows 7 64bit
 
 
Windows 7 cannot see server - GOING NUTS!!

Hey guys, hope you can help, because I've been pulling my hair out for 2 days now!

Just installed my first Windows 7 PC. It is the 64 bit ver.

Works like a charm, very impressive BUT.......

I cannot get it to attach to our DOMAIN. It does NOT see the server.

INFO:

We have a windows 2003 server. 5 PCs are attached to it through a hub. Internet
is through a cable router which is attached to the hub. The cable router acts as a DHCP server, and the new Windows 7 machine has an IP address within the scope.

All 5 of the PCs are Win XP and have no problem attaching to the domain and the server can be seen simply by Opening Explorer then going to My Network Places.

The Windows 7 PC found the Internet immediately and there is no problem surfing the web.

On the Windows 7 machine it was defaulted to Home Network. When I try to change it to a DOMAIN, no matter what I do it comes back with "The Network Path was not found".

I also use the wizard which tries to connect to the domain through different means
and while it does come up for username and password it still rejects it in the end the same errors as above.

I also have tried all of this both with the firewall enabled and disabled. At present I have the firewall fully disabled.

I've tried everything....used the workstation username, the administrator name....all the same results.

Now here's the weird part, if I fiddle around enough in the network discovery window for whatever reason after a while suddenly the server and the other XP computers appear on the network. I have not been able to find out what it was that I was doing that click this or if for some reason there's something that just triggered it.

However once this happens if I reboot the computer it goes back to the way it was and I have to go through this all over again clicking things and refreshing in the network window until suddenly it starts again and then I can use the network all until it might disappear at some other point.

Still even when the network can be seen and the server can be seen I still cannot change from workgroup to domain.

Pinging:

I can ping the server by the IP number and the server name.

I can paying an XP workstation by its name or IP address but only if I turn the xp workstation firewall off.

Reading on some of the other forms somebody suggested to turn off the network adapter Internet protocol version 6 under the adapter properties. I did this but it didn't really have any effect that I could tell.

However one thing that seem to make it easier for me to see the network was by going into the IP version 4 properties and clicking on the "use the following DNS server address" and inserting the server's IP address. I also went into the advanced settings to the DNS and insert it again the server's IP address also added under DNS suffix for this connection the name of the domain.

I am completely out of ideas at this point I do not understand why I can't change to a domain name, nor why I cannot see the server without a lot of clicking and hitting the keyboard.

If anyone has any ideas I would greatly appreciate the help thank you in advance.



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17 Oct 2010   #2

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Have you considered modifying the hosts file:
1) go to C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc
2) Open "hosts" in notepad
3) Add a line in it with your server name and ip-address (an example should be there to look at).

Not sure this will help but it solved a similar issue for me with a Windows Home Server.
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17 Oct 2010   #3

Windows7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

What Windows version do you have, Mike?

zzz2496
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17 Oct 2010   #4

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
 
 

Try 3 things (one at a time):

1) Hit Windows+ pause/break to open the system information window. Under the Computer name, domain, and workgroup settings, click change settings.
Change the domain and workgroup names to match the XP Computers.
Any change?

2) Open the network and sharing center and go to advanced sharing settings. Make sure network discovery is turned ON and password protected sharing is OFF.

3) Open the network and sharing center and click on adapter properties. Right click on the connection you are using for internet/server hub and click on properties. Under IPv4, select configure. Make sure it is set to receive IP and DNS from host, not using it manually.

~Lordbob
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17 Oct 2010   #5

Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit SP1
 
 

Is the server, client computer(s) and modem all connected to the hub, did I read it right?

You mention that the cable modem provides DHCP, but it would be providing DNS too probably. Does the server have DHCP / DNS installed? Could that be causing some sort of confusion?

A hub basically spams all its data to all available ports. Your Windows 7 computer connection description sounds like it is directing its route through the hub to the router. Perhaps your cable modem is filtering out this hub spam. So when your Win 7 computer reaches the hub for its DHCP/DNS queries-- it does not find the domain (because of the filtering?)

Do all the devices obtain their IP from the modem and what IP range is it set on?

I haven't done networking in 6 months, so I'm getting a little clueless there as each day passes

Maybe useful link: Cannot Network Windows 7 with Windows XP - Networking & Security

Also, you could try installing this on the XP and server machine: Download details: Link Layer Topology Discovery (LLTD) Responder (KB922120)
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17 Oct 2010   #6

Windows 7 64bit
 
 

Ok - tried all the recommendations.....nothing! Still the same problem.

I Have the Windows 7 64 bit version. It is completely up to date, just checked and there are no new updates.

While I was going through your suggestions, of course.....as if it "jostled" something, the network suddenly appeared!

But after rebooting....GONE....and back to the same thing.

problems:

WHY CANT i CHANGE FROM WORKGROUP TO DOMAIN? NOTHING SEEMS TO WORK

BOBTRAN - WHEN I TRY TO SAVE THAT FILE AFTER MAKING THE CHANGE, IT SAYS I DO NOT HAVE RIGHTS.
MY ACCOUNT IS AN ADMINISTRATOR EQUIVELANT SO I DONT UNDERSTAND.

Could this be a clue...and related to the problem? Perhaps I DO NOT have sufficient rights.

I tried to log in as administrator but the only account name is the one I gave it when I installed Windows 7.

How do I log in as ADMINISTRATOR?????

Nearly bald now!!!!
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17 Oct 2010   #7

Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit SP1
 
 

Start up the command prompt, then type net user YOURUSERNAMEHERE

Near the bottom it will list which groups your account is a member of.

If I recall right, holding down the shift key at startup should reveal any hidden accounts.

Have you tried disabling UAC in Windows 7. reboot, then making the changes that Bob suggested?

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mike786 View Post
Ok - tried all the recommendations.....nothing! Still the same problem.

I Have the Windows 7 64 bit version. It is completely up to date, just checked and there are no new updates.

While I was going through your suggestions, of course.....as if it "jostled" something, the network suddenly appeared!

But after rebooting....GONE....and back to the same thing.

problems:

WHY CANT i CHANGE FROM WORKGROUP TO DOMAIN? NOTHING SEEMS TO WORK

BOBTRAN - WHEN I TRY TO SAVE THAT FILE AFTER MAKING THE CHANGE, IT SAYS I DO NOT HAVE RIGHTS.
MY ACCOUNT IS AN ADMINISTRATOR EQUIVELANT SO I DONT UNDERSTAND.

Could this be a clue...and related to the problem? Perhaps I DO NOT have sufficient rights.

I tried to log in as administrator but the only account name is the one I gave it when I installed Windows 7.

How do I log in as ADMINISTRATOR?????

Nearly bald now!!!!
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17 Oct 2010   #8

Windows7 Ultimate 64bit
 
 

Windows 7 have several editions. Each edition have 2 binary versions, one for 32bit and 64bit. You need to use Windows 7 "Professional", or Windows 7 "Enterprise", or Windows 7 "Ultimate" to be able to connect to a domain... Thus back to my question, which version do you have?

Wikipedia link: Windows 7 editions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

zzz2496

Edit: I hope you aren't using any "Home" editions...
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17 Oct 2010   #9

Windows 8.1 Pro x64
 
 

How long do you wait, it can take up to 30 minutes for the server to appear on your network.
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17 Oct 2010   #10

Windows 7 64bit
 
 

USING Windows 7 Ultimate, 64 bit ver
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