well ive spent a couple of hours messing with this, most of the time restoring and waiting on reboots etc,
its not possible for me to run 7tsp and have my theme with the help and support being able to start normally. when i have more time i will theme the pc without using 7tsp and see if help and support works then. it used to( im convinced it did) ,help and support isnt something i use much but its a good resource particularly if looking for a solution for someone on the forum,
so for now i live without it as i like my theme more.
thanks all for input