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       #21

    James Colbert said:
    Keiichi25 said:
    ...Actually, Thunderbird is a slightly different kind of mail program. I also know that if the user is planning on using an IMAP server, Thunderbird sometimes quirks.
    So which client do you use?

    James
    Currently using MS Outlook 2007. Mostly because I used to work at three other businesses that used Outlook and saved PST files from there that contain Contact information and some worthwhile mail.
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  2. Posts : 465
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       #22

    BTW, it has been a while since I have used Outlook Express. A while ago, Outlook Express was also a Newsgroup reader that would access USENET providers you can connect to. Outlook, while it is part of office, is a nice Personal Organizer type program and the use of PST is helpful for multiple information, such as Contacts, Mail, Calendar information as well as some other things, such as Journal if you wanted to keep track of when you did things like Word, Excel and such if you wanted to track your time using such things. Notes for Sticky Notes.

    If you are in an Exchange environment, you can sync a lot of that. The newer version of Outlook allows you to do something similar with Hotmail I believe.
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  3. Posts : 1,127
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       #23

    Keiichi25 said:
    BTW, it has been a while since I have used Outlook Express. A while ago, Outlook Express was also a Newsgroup reader that would access USENET providers you can connect to. Outlook, while it is part of office, is a nice Personal Organizer type program and the use of PST is helpful for multiple information, such as Contacts, Mail, Calendar information as well as some other things, such as Journal if you wanted to keep track of when you did things like Word, Excel and such if you wanted to track your time using such things. Notes for
    Hi Keiichi,

    Thanks for the additional info. The reality is that I've been using OE turned WM for quite some time now (since its inception, for mail and newsgroups), and, after trying WLM in the early stages, disliked it so much that I used the 'hack' to enable WM's use in win 7.

    For those interested, there's a tutorial here:,
    Windows Mail
    , but back when I did it, I just renamed the win7's Winmail folder and copied Vista's WM folder in Program Files along with a few other changes. Not sure about the tut, but my method did not allow WM to open as the default reader (i.e., clciking on a mail link in IE would not open WM)

    Outlook itself is quite a bit more than I really want or need, and I just don't care for WLM, thus the point of the question. I recently installed Thunderbird, which is indeed close to OE (WM), but haven't fully commited, i.e., haven't imported all my mail (going back to 2000...) and started using Thunderbird fulltime. So I guess I'm in "email client purgatory", awaiting just the right solution. One day... :)

    James
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       #24

    James Colbert said:
    Keiichi25 said:
    BTW, it has been a while since I have used Outlook Express. A while ago, Outlook Express was also a Newsgroup reader that would access USENET providers you can connect to. Outlook, while it is part of office, is a nice Personal Organizer type program and the use of PST is helpful for multiple information, such as Contacts, Mail, Calendar information as well as some other things, such as Journal if you wanted to keep track of when you did things like Word, Excel and such if you wanted to track your time using such things. Notes for
    Hi Keiichi,

    Thanks for the additional info. The reality is that I've been using OE turned WM for quite some time now (since its inception, for mail and newsgroups), and, after trying WLM in the early stages, disliked it so much that I used the 'hack' to enable WM's use in win 7.

    For those interested, there's a tutorial here:,
    Windows Mail
    , but back when I did it, I just renamed the win7's Winmail folder and copied Vista's WM folder in Program Files along with a few other changes. Not sure about the tut, but my method did not allow WM to open as the default reader (i.e., clciking on a mail link in IE would not open WM)

    Outlook itself is quite a bit more than I really want or need, and I just don't care for WLM, thus the point of the question. I recently installed Thunderbird, which is indeed close to OE (WM), but haven't fully commited, i.e., haven't imported all my mail (going back to 2000...) and started using Thunderbird fulltime. So I guess I'm in "email client purgatory", awaiting just the right solution. One day... :)

    James
    Well, I had to use Thunderbird for work at two locations and I have found it to be good in some areas, but I also found that Thunderbird's ability to handle IMAP servers to be questionable. By questionable, I had it sit there and 'think' about processing mail for a while. I found archiving mail with Thunderbird a pain unless you know where to look for and how to re-get it back again, which isn't intuitive at first. And while Outlook and Outlook Express' location of the Archive isn't as easy to find as well, you can specify its archive location. You can do that with thunderbird as well. The problem with thunderbird is that you need to copy a folder. Outlook, the PST is a file that is easier to deal with.
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    Windows 7 x64
       #25

    I have been using TB since several years and through several PC and OS upgrades and have yet to lose any e-mail. Yes, it does have its quirks handling IMAP (though it keeps improving) but as a POP e-mail client, it is really very good and several extensions (including for import/export) make it even better.

    The new search features are quite good too.

    Try it out and see. Use the setting 'keep mail on server' and if you do not like it, uninstall it and use OE on VM or WLM, whichever suits you.
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       #26

    timlab1955 said:
    I'm going from XP to Windows 7 Professional 64bit. Just wondering what I can expect when I finally get my notebook from Dell. The CPU is the I5 - 2.4 - 3.32 and the HDD is 500 gb, with 1 GB on the video card and 6 GB of RAM. What I plan on doing with this machine is the following:
    #1: Start programming for Andriod (simple stuff)
    #2: Not hosting, but building a web site for my wife about horses (go figure hu?)
    #3: Transferring movies from VHS to DVD

    The one concern that I have is, I have windows XP with office 97. Will there be a problem running this on my windows 7 computer. My wife's computer is Vista 64Bit and it runs on it just fine.

    Will there be a problem doing any of the above stuff? What other stuff will be made available to me once I do get windows 7?
    See how we have hijacked the OP's post above into a general discussion on mail clients??....Not good folks IMHO.
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  7. Posts : 53
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       #27

    I thought the OP added that issue (about OE).
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  8. Posts : 1,127
    Win7U 64 RTM
       #28

    timlab1955 said:
    Well, I have to say, Windows 7 is working out okay on my new notebook. But I hate the window live email program. Is there any email program out there that is almost like outlook express? I could move around the program like there was no tomorrow.

    Thanks.
    Timlab
    Newbie here and just general question

    wilywombat said:
    See how we have hijacked the OP's post above into a general discussion on mail clients??....
    Given the OP's last post, seems on topic to me...

    James
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  9. Posts : 1,127
    Win7U 64 RTM
       #29

    Keiichi and Sandeep, thanks for your thoughts on TB. I've never had to deal with IMAP servers (of course, one never knows). Having used OE for so long, TB may be comfortingly familiar, if I can ever commit to make the change.

    James
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       #30

    The OP asked about email programs and after all, that is what is being discussed. Sounds on topic to me.
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