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  1. Posts : 5,605
    Originally Win 7 Hm Prem x64 Ver 6.1.7600 Build 7601-SP1 | Upgraded to Windows 10 December 14, 2019
       #21

    I don't know what I'm doing wrong I used your TryToFindThis in my Doc Library, and as soon as I typed * it came up, along with several others.........

    Then I typed *
    Try*, *To*, *Find*, and *This* each in succession, and the file stayed there while others that didn't match disappeared?!?
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  2. Posts : 23
    Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
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       #22

    Correct me if I'm wrong: Indexing is ONLY about speeding up searches. It has nothing to do with whether the files can be found or not.
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  3. Posts : 23
    Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
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       #23

    Kari, try my example in a newly created 'Kari' directory.

    I've played with it a bit too, it seems like it behaves differently depending on the folder..
    In my C:\Windows folder, it didn't find the file even when I typed the full "TryToFindThis" string...
    Otherwise it behaves like I described initially.
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  4. Posts : 5,605
    Originally Win 7 Hm Prem x64 Ver 6.1.7600 Build 7601-SP1 | Upgraded to Windows 10 December 14, 2019
       #24

    I think your only partially right. According to this:
    Indexing Service is a base service that extracts content from files and constructs an indexed catalog to facilitate efficient and rapid searching.
    Indexing Service (Windows)

    If you go down a little further look into using filters:
    Using Custom Filters with Indexing Service (Windows)

    But if you look at the very top of the first link, it says:
    [Indexing Service is obsolete as of Windows XP. Instead, use Windows Search.]
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  5. Posts : 17,545
    Windows 10 Pro x64 EN-GB
       #25

    gilmoses said:
    Correct me if I'm wrong: Indexing is ONLY about speeding up searches. It has nothing to do with whether the files can be found or not.
    Indexed = file is listed in search index i.e. (should be) found if search criteria matches
    Not indexed = file is not listed, not found, when searching only the indexed locations.

    Example (re: two different search systems as mentioned in my earlier post):
    - searching from Start Menu > Search Field, only indexed files and their contents are searched i.e. a non-indexed file is not found
    - Searching from Explorer window > search field, all files & their contents is (should be) searched
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  6. Posts : 5,605
    Originally Win 7 Hm Prem x64 Ver 6.1.7600 Build 7601-SP1 | Upgraded to Windows 10 December 14, 2019
       #26

    Gil, I put the TryToFindThis folder that had a TryToFindThis file in it, in C:\Windows\

    I did a search like before:
    I typed *Try*, *To*, *Find*, and *This* each in succession, and the file stayed there while others that didn't match disappeared.
    I found both the Folder, and the File.

    When I went to its location it was ...C:\Windows\TryToFindThis
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  7. Posts : 23
    Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
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       #27

    Mmm.. strange.
    Maybe it makes a difference whether the folder had been indexed (or is within an indexed folder).
    It doesn't work for me this way.
    Can anyone else try this too, please?
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  8. Posts : 710
    Win7 Pro x64
       #28

    I've nothing to add directly except to note that when I need to grovel through my source code files for a particular string of characters I rely on my text editor's file contents search because win search hasn't been consistent in delivering results. Shrug. Could be indexing, could be PEBKAC - but precisely because pinpointing the exact cause of the problem isn't easy, it's far less hassle to just throw up your hands in defeat and use a 3rd party tool which you know will deliver. However, I know I'd love it if you guys can get this to work.

    Sorry about the diversion; carry on.
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  9. Posts : 5,605
    Originally Win 7 Hm Prem x64 Ver 6.1.7600 Build 7601-SP1 | Upgraded to Windows 10 December 14, 2019
       #29

    Gil I tried A new File and Folder in C:\Windows with the same result. All words or groups were found.

    You might have a corrupt Index. Go to search type in index, then click on Index Options >Advance >From there you can rebuild it or troubleshoot it.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails More on search hell-indexing-options.jpg  
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  10. Posts : 5,605
    Originally Win 7 Hm Prem x64 Ver 6.1.7600 Build 7601-SP1 | Upgraded to Windows 10 December 14, 2019
       #30

    Almost forgot....

    If you use the troubleshooter you see when you search for index click on advance, then run as Administrator.
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