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Windows 7 - My Documents - Why are these Folders Here? |
12-12-2010
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#1 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 |
My Documents - Why are these Folders Here? Hello, I coming from a XP environment to a Windows 7 one. While I'm not new to Windows, adjusting from XP to 7 and understanding its nuances is both challenging and exciting.
I do have a question about what 7 puts in the "My Documents" folder. It appears that at least Outlook keeps its PST files in the Documents folder. Is it valid for other applications to auto-create documents there as well?
You see, I have a Lenovo Thinkpad W510 which came with Corel DVD MovieFactory and Ulead Burn software. My Documents did not contain a folder for these until after I burned a CD with some files. Now there appears one folder for each app. The folders are empty, with no files within.
It doesn't really bother me that apps put folders and documents in the My Documents if this is something valid and acceptable (although I can anticipate this would make the My Documents rather cluttered after awhile). I suppose I just would like someone to validate that this is what is supposed to be happening (in general, not necessarily with those two pieces of software).
Thanks for your time. I'm glad I found this forum as it seems to be the place to be to learn about Win 7.
Have a pleasant evening.
Jim
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Lenovo W510 OS Windows 7 Professional x64 CPU Intel Cored i7 Q720 @ 1.60GHz Memory 8GB |
12-13-2010
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 |
Outlook 2010 does create a folder, (Outlook Files), in the My documents tree, which IMO does make sense as it keeps the user data (PST Files) where they would be most likely to be backed up,
This reason also applies of course to other applications where data is concerned.
Where the folders are created for temporary files what I suggest is you set the hidden attribute on the folder which will hide the folder, (and the clutter), but the application will still find the folder when needed | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Real World Computing (Me + a little help from Acer) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1035T 2.6 GHz Motherboard Aspire M3400 Memory 4Gb PC10600 DDR3 1333 MHz Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 315 512MB Sound Card OnBoard - Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Philips 32" HDTV, (HDMI) + 26" TV (VGA) Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 @60Hz + 1360 x 768 @60Hz Keyboard Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) Mouse Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) PSU Stock (400W) Case Acer M3400 Cooling Stock Hard Drives 500 GB Seagate ST3500418AS SATA II
1 TB Hitachi HDS5C1010CLA382 SATAII
1 TB Samsung Spinpoint F1 HD103SI SATA II (external)
Plus various other (client ) HDDs as needed Internet Speed Temporaray 3G Dongle Other Info USB Capture + Webcam(s)
Also run Acer AspireOne 530h Netbook, Dual Core Atom + 1GB (Win7 Ult x86) |
12-13-2010
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#3 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 |
Thanks MacGyvr and Barman58 for your replies. The difference may be between Outlook 2007 and 2010. I know on XP Outlook 2007 does indeed put PST files in the ...\local... directory path. Maybe its not as much a Windows 7 difference as it is a difference between the 2 Outlook versions?
When I did a clean install of Outlook 2010 on the new Win 7 machine I did not change any of the defaults when prompted by the installer. It seems others I talked to did not change the defaults either and their PST is also located in My Documents --> Outlook folder.
It does make sense that the PST files go under the My Documents umbrella because unless the average user backs up their entire system they wouldn't get the PST files backed up as they might expect.
Thanks again, and have a great week!
Jim | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Lenovo W510 OS Windows 7 Professional x64 CPU Intel Cored i7 Q720 @ 1.60GHz Memory 8GB |
12-13-2010
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 |

Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 Outlook 2010 does create a folder, (Outlook Files), in the My documents tree, which IMO does make sense as it keeps the user data (PST Files) where they would be most likely to be backed up, Perhaps because I did an upgrade? but my pst file is still where all the others have defaulted to.... C:\Users\myname\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Outlook
I just checked my Documents/My Documents folder and do not have a folder called Outlook Files. Yes I have my folder view set to show all hidden files/folders.
Anyway I'm glad you pointed that out. Never know when this info becomes handy.
Thanks. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by me OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i7-950 (3.06GHz) OC to 3.8GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5 rev 1, F6 Bios Memory Corsair Dominator -TR3X6G1600C8D (6GB - 3X2GB) Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD6950 2gig (Sapphire) Sound Card X-Fi Titanium Fatality Pro Monitor(s) Displays HP ZR22w 22" LCD Monitor Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech Wireless Wave Mouse Logitech Performance MX PSU Antec Signature - SG-850 Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Noctua NH-C12P SE14 Hard Drives Primary - OCZ Vertex 2 SSD (120GB). Storage - One 1TB WD Caviar Black, One 750 WD Caviar Black. Internet Speed High Speed Cable Other Info Memory Timings - 1600MHz @ 8-8-8-20-1T @ 1.640 volts |
12-13-2010
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 |

Quote: Originally Posted by MacGyvr 
Quote: Originally Posted by jimadler Thanks MacGyvr and Barman58 for your replies. The difference may be between Outlook 2007 and 2010. I know on XP Outlook 2007 does indeed put PST files in the ...\local... directory path. Maybe its not as much a Windows 7 difference as it is a difference between the 2 Outlook versions?
When I did a clean install of Outlook 2010 on the new Win 7 machine I did not change any of the defaults when prompted by the installer. It seems others I talked to did not change the defaults either and their PST is also located in My Documents --> Outlook folder.
It does make sense that the PST files go under the My Documents umbrella because unless the average user backs up their entire system they wouldn't get the PST files backed up as they might expect.
Thanks again, and have a great week!
Jim Outlook doesn't create a folder in My Documents, in ANY version ever released and has never stored PST files in that location. This is well documented and can be found by a simple Google search. If you have that folder structure, then a human or other software has made that change. Period. Please check this Microsoft office webpage http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/ou...010354943.aspx
Never say never | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Real World Computing (Me + a little help from Acer) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1035T 2.6 GHz Motherboard Aspire M3400 Memory 4Gb PC10600 DDR3 1333 MHz Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 315 512MB Sound Card OnBoard - Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Philips 32" HDTV, (HDMI) + 26" TV (VGA) Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 @60Hz + 1360 x 768 @60Hz Keyboard Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) Mouse Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) PSU Stock (400W) Case Acer M3400 Cooling Stock Hard Drives 500 GB Seagate ST3500418AS SATA II
1 TB Hitachi HDS5C1010CLA382 SATAII
1 TB Samsung Spinpoint F1 HD103SI SATA II (external)
Plus various other (client ) HDDs as needed Internet Speed Temporaray 3G Dongle Other Info USB Capture + Webcam(s)
Also run Acer AspireOne 530h Netbook, Dual Core Atom + 1GB (Win7 Ult x86) |
12-13-2010
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#6 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 |
Thanks Barman, I was just looking for that as I knew I'd read that somewhere myself - that the pst file location changed. Anyway you have the official Microsoft site, and I have this.... Quote: New to Outlook 2010, Personal Folders Files (*.pst) are in the Outlook Files folder in your My Documents folder. Outlook 2010 Backup and File Locations | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by me OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i7-950 (3.06GHz) OC to 3.8GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5 rev 1, F6 Bios Memory Corsair Dominator -TR3X6G1600C8D (6GB - 3X2GB) Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD6950 2gig (Sapphire) Sound Card X-Fi Titanium Fatality Pro Monitor(s) Displays HP ZR22w 22" LCD Monitor Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech Wireless Wave Mouse Logitech Performance MX PSU Antec Signature - SG-850 Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Noctua NH-C12P SE14 Hard Drives Primary - OCZ Vertex 2 SSD (120GB). Storage - One 1TB WD Caviar Black, One 750 WD Caviar Black. Internet Speed High Speed Cable Other Info Memory Timings - 1600MHz @ 8-8-8-20-1T @ 1.640 volts |
12-13-2010
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Office 2010 will use the PST files from O2K7 if there is an upgrade. If you add additional accounts, such as IMAP, then O2K10 will create the new PST in the My Documents folder structure. Backups become more complicated with the PST in different locations so beware. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built OS Windows 7 SP1 x64 CPU AMD 9850 X4 Motherboard ASUS Memory Corsair Graphics Card ATI Radeon Sound Card Sigmatel Monitor(s) Displays Dell Screen Resolution 1600X900 Cooling Corsair H60 Hard Drives (1) WD 1TB Internet Speed UVerse 12MB |
12-13-2010
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Yeah I was just going to say thats exactly where my Outlook files are - My Documents.
It was a new install on Windows 7. I never put it there.
But all my imported .pst files are in AppData
But I have quite a few programs that do put Folders in My Documents. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Evga X58 OS Windows 7 Ultimate CPU Core i7 950 - 3.06 GHz Motherboard EVGA X58 SLI Memory OCZ OCZ3G1600V6GK (3x2GB) Graphics Card GeForce GT 220 - GeForce 9800GT 1GB AKIMBO Sound Card High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays ASUS VH242H 24 LCD Screen Resolution 1920 X 1080 Keyboard Logitech Mouse Logitech PSU ANTEC QUATTRO TPQ-1000 1000W ATX EPS12V Case ANTEC NINE HUNDRED TWO Cooling ZALMAN CNPS10X Extreme Hard Drives 2x - Seagate 1000GB Hard Drive SATA 3Gb/s 32MB Cache
Seagate 750GB Barracuda 7200.12 SATA II w/ 32MB Cache
WDC WD2500AAJB-00J3A0 ATA Device Other Info 2 x- HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH24NS50 ATA Device |
12-13-2010
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#9 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 |
Also, as mentioned earlier, and oneextraid just mentioned agin, if you do an upgrade Outlook will use the pst files from Outlook 2007’s location. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Built by me OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i7-950 (3.06GHz) OC to 3.8GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD5 rev 1, F6 Bios Memory Corsair Dominator -TR3X6G1600C8D (6GB - 3X2GB) Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD6950 2gig (Sapphire) Sound Card X-Fi Titanium Fatality Pro Monitor(s) Displays HP ZR22w 22" LCD Monitor Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech Wireless Wave Mouse Logitech Performance MX PSU Antec Signature - SG-850 Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Noctua NH-C12P SE14 Hard Drives Primary - OCZ Vertex 2 SSD (120GB). Storage - One 1TB WD Caviar Black, One 750 WD Caviar Black. Internet Speed High Speed Cable Other Info Memory Timings - 1600MHz @ 8-8-8-20-1T @ 1.640 volts |
12-13-2010
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#10 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 |
Right, that's exactly what I did Okay, thanks everyone. That's exactly what I did - clean Windows 7 install, first time install of MS Office (2010) on new laptop. So at least we now know the original PST goes in the User documents folder.
Agreed, never say never
Thanks again!
Jim | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Lenovo W510 OS Windows 7 Professional x64 CPU Intel Cored i7 Q720 @ 1.60GHz Memory 8GB My Documents - Why are these Folders Here? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:15 PM. |  |