| Windows 7: What is cloud computing? |
19 Dec 2010
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#1 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64, Mac OS X 10.6.2 x64 Boston, MA |
What is cloud computing? I've heard so much about it, but I still dont understand what it is. Please explain. | My System Specs |
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19 Dec 2010
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64) South Australia |
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19 Dec 2010
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#3 | | Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, clean install, upgrade disc CT |
Bottom line
You no longer have to buy Windows etc.
It will all be like wireless cell phones. You pay by month
Great for the companies, but will cost you big time | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell XPS 420 OS Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, clean install, upgrade disc CPU Intel Core2 processsor Q8200(2.33Ghz 1333FSB) Quad Core Tech Motherboard Dell Memory 6 gb Graphics Card ATI Radeon 256MB HD3650 Sound Card Intergrated 7.1 Channel Audio Monitor(s) Displays Dell SP2009W 20" Keyboard Dell USB Keyboard Mouse Dell Premium Optical USB Cooling Fan Hard Drives 640 GB Serial ATA Hard drive Internet Speed DSL 2.85 |
19 Dec 2010
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#4 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit An Mhí |
its more or less programs ya can use online to put it in simple terms!
eg of this in skydrive, you can you ms word online without having it on your computer as well as havin all the storage space on your skydrive account! | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Acer Aspire x33000 OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit CPU AMD Athlon x2 Motherboard Acer wmcp78m Memory 3g Ram and 10g Virtual Graphics Card Nivida Gforce 9 Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 |
20 Dec 2010
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While in principle it's a good idea being able to use applications online, and to access your documents from anywhere with an internet connection, Cloud Computing, regardless of the hype behind it, is still a long way off.
There are still hundreds of applications that will never be able to work "In The Cloud" and would still require some kind of local computer with Windows, Mac OS or Linux on it to work. Video and Image editing software comes to mind. And what about games? No even if you use a console like the XBox or a Playstation will the cloud ever be able to deal with the badwidth requirements.
Which brings me to my next point. Cloud Computing as envisioned will never be able to function correctly because of bandwidth and cost limitations in some markets. Sure, it may be fine in some countries where internet connectivity is cheap.
But, as is the case here in South Africa, thins change for the worse for Cloud Computing. Here is what I pay per month to be able to connect to the internet: | Telephone Landline | R120 | Required to qualify for DSL Option | | DSL384 "Upgrade" to voice line | R130 | | | Uncapped ISP | R450 | with bandwidth usage limitations imposed | | TOTAL | R700 | Appximately US$100 |
Now, you may be wondering why I'm using a 384kbps line? Well, if I was to upgrade to a 4096kbps line (the fastest line available here), then it's a different story altogether: | Telephone Landline | R120 | Required to qualify for DSL Option | | DSL4096 "Upgrade" to voice line | R699 | | | Uncapped ISP | R900 | with unlimited bandwidth usage | | TOTAL | R1,719 | Appximately US$245 |
Can you see the difference? If I was to use the cloud, I'd have to accept paying nearly 3 times as much for my internet connection over what I'm already convinced is far too much anyway.
The point I'm trying to make is that for as long as internet connectivity is limited to all but those who can afford it, then Cloud Computing is nothing more than a pipe dream that will never work. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU AMD Phenom 9600 Quad Core Motherboard ASUS MB-M3A32-MVP Deluxe/WiFi Memory 2 x A-Data 2GB DDR2-800 Graphics Card ASUS ATI Radeon HD 2400PRO Sound Card C-Media 7.1 Surround Monitor(s) Displays Sahara 19" Screen Resolution 1600x1200 Keyboard Mercury Mouse Logitech PSU 800W Case Thermaltake Tai-Chi Cooling Tai-Chi Water Cooler Hard Drives 1 x 80GB Seagate (IDE)
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25 Dec 2010
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#6 | | Windows vista home premium and Windows 7RC1 |
And that's why I support Microsoft! They don't give up on local applications and system. They want a symbiosis and cooperation instead. Also I don't want to let my tuned rig to just lazily sit and get everything from the cloud not having to think about it much because it would be all preprocessed by some server  This would also make everything more vulnerable and much more dependent on a big companies to be running properly. Of course there are advantages of a cloud approach. Don't get me wrong, but I think that Chrome OS is not the right solution for example... | My System Specs | | OS Windows vista home premium and Windows 7RC1 CPU Q6600 @3.7GHz Motherboard Gigabyte UD3R Graphics Card GeForce GTX275 PSU Fortron Blue storm II Case City Case Cooling AC Freezer 7 pro Hard Drives 2x samsung spinpoint 750GB |
25 Dec 2010
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#7 | | Win7U 64 RTM Ellesmere Island |
I agree with Peter's assessment. Bad results. The term 'The Cloud', in its current usage is mostly Market Speak, I think. But, IMO, the reality of The Cloud, if it ever comes to pass, will be a security nightmare, which may only be overcome by a completely (and, perhaps, oppressively) regulated internet.
I can't ever see a time where I would allow my data to reside on TC. The numerous scams, hacks, viruses, ID thefts, etc. can't be controlled now. And use of TC apps? What happens when bandwidth drops, or internet connections go out, or you can't pay your bill, or...
Unfortunately, I can see nothing good coming from TC. Inevitably, it would be put to use in some unsavory fashion, probably courtesy of our Govts. It's just too tempting for those of self-serving intentions.
Just my paranoid opinion
James | My System Specs | | OS Win7U 64 RTM CPU Q9550 Motherboard GA-EP45-UD3R Memory 8GB Gskill Graphics Card ASUS|EAH4850/HTDI/1GD3/A Sound Card xfi Plat Monitor(s) Displays Dell 2405fpw Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Keyboard MS Natural Ergonomic 4000 Mouse Logitech MX610 USB Cordless PSU Antec Case Antec Hard Drives Seagate & WD sata Drives |
25 Dec 2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by James Colbert Just my paranoid opinion
James I don't think you are alone, many companies will never put the life on a cloud and watch its data come raining back in a thunderstorm | My System Specs | | |
26 Dec 2010
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Quote: I don't think you are alone, many companies will never put the life on a cloud and watch its data come raining back in a thunderstorm Maybe not...
Many companies have hard time arguing with the positive financial impact to their budget that cloud computing presents to them. The upfront capital investment is practically none existent, nor do they need to refresh the hardware/software on a periodic basis that also eliminates financial funding for maintenance and support of their own systems or their own private cloud. At the time, at least in the US, when one gig connection to the Internet is quickly becoming a common option with point-to-point link being the other, you'd be surprised just how many companies actually do commit to the cloud. It depends on the size of the company, if it commits partially or fully to the cloud.
On the other hand the security and especially privacy implication of cloud computing is real, as most of you noted in this topic.
In a world where most people voluntarily give up their privacy to public clouds(as in free), such as Google, Facebook, etc, for them moving company data to the cloud poses no issues. It seems interesting that the people who would not be seen half-naked and drunk on the streets, have no problems posting the same pictures in the public cloud. Go figure that the some of the same people are now decision makers in the matter of cloud computing.
Google makes 97% of their revenue from advertisement that is made possible by the public cloud that they provide "free" to the general public. Free as in freely mining the general public's data for profit with the consent, implied or stated, of the said general public. Google also provides semi-private email services for some of the Universities for free of charge; it would be a surprise if they don't do data mining for these services as well.
Cloud providers will find a way to follow Google's footsteps and now even Microsoft jumps on this bandwagon, "Into the cloud...".
This means only one thing, in the near future the mined data will be widely available for everyone. The next time you'd want to date a girl, or a guy depending on your preference, you can do a search for him or her for low monthly cost of $3.99. You can find out their past history, education, financial status, medical history, and if they ever posted a half naked drunk picture of themselves... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built at Home OS Windows 7 64-bit CPU Intel i5-3350P 3.1 GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UP5 TH Memory 16 GBs GSkill Sniper Graphics Card Radeon HD 7850 Sound Card VIA HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays Dell U2410 24" Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Keyboard Dell Multimedia keyboard Mouse Logitech Trackball PSU Thermaltake 850W Case Antec P183 Cooling Noctua NH-D14 Heatsink 2 x 120mm fans, 4 x 120mm case fans Hard Drives 1 x Intel 520 240 GBs
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26 Dec 2010
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#10 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Louisville, KY |
I agree with the previous posts concerning use of the cloud. There is good and bad in each system. I have been using SkyDrive for about 5 months to edit a book written by a family member. She lives in another state and it would be impossible for us to mail stuff back and forth (or enven email). Just too much of an opportunity to miss things in transit. So, SkyDrive was the perfect solution for us. I know we may be compromised even though it is password protected, but we had to take that risk.
I am very much a believer in protecting your information and limiting the amount you share. I know a lot of people who don't hesitate to post their lives (in all the sordid detail) on Facebook and the like. I think this is all leading up to eventual use of shared media and I also think we are already using the "cloud" in a major way. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number "WartHog Wonder" OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU AMD Phenom II X4, 945, Quad Core, 3.0 GHz Motherboard Gigabyte MA785GM-US2H Memory 8GB G.Skill PI Black PC2 6400 * 4-4-4-12 @1.9v Graphics Card NVIDIA 512MB 9600GT Sound Card Realtek ALC889A Chipset (onboard) Monitor(s) Displays 2 x 22" Hans-G LCD Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard Dell SK-8115 Mouse Microsoft Comfort Optical Mouse 3000 PSU OCZ 700w GameXstream Case Cooler Master CM 690 Midtower Cooling Xigmatek Gaia SD1283 CPU Cooler, Assorted 120mm case fans Hard Drives 650GB 7200RPM WD Caviar Black Other Info Liteon iHAS 424-98B 24x DVD/CD Writer What is cloud computing? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:19 AM. | |