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Windows 7: Corrupt Users

15 Jun 2009   #11

XP, Seven, 2008R2


As you said, the "trusted installer" is the owner of the Program Files tree. But if I needed to, couldn't I just take ownership of it without using the hidden "Administrator" user?

I'm a bit puzzled by this, because both the "Administrator" user and my user account are members of the same Administrators group.

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15 Jun 2009   #12

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 x2 + x86 + Windows 8.1 x64 x2

It's true that you could take ownership and then give yourself, as admin, (or even as a standard user), give yourself the rights you need, however people who have done this have reported strange issues at a later date.

As for the administrator account, I fully agree looking at the groups and rights it should be identical to an elevated admin account. However possibly through some "hard wired" differences in the security model this account does not trigger UAC prompts and is given higher access rights that any other user.

will have to see if I can find a definitive explanation of the differences and post back
My System SpecsSystem Spec
15 Jun 2009   #13

XP, Seven, 2008R2

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 View Post
this account does not trigger UAC prompts
Interesting. Now I wonder if being logged on as hidden Admin account is the same as being logged in to the regular Admin account with UAC disabled.
My System SpecsSystem Spec

15 Jun 2009   #14

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 x2 + x86 + Windows 8.1 x64 x2

Even more interesting is the contents of this article which indicates that the hidden account does not have higher rights than the "Trusted installer"

the article does explain the differences quite simply between the account types and how to change some behaviour
My System SpecsSystem Spec
15 Jun 2009   #15

XP, Seven, 2008R2

That article falls in line with what I originally thought about Administrator users. However, I was not aware that group policy disables UAC for the built-in Administrator account. You brought that up earlier and it is good to know.

In older versions of Windows such as Windows XP and 2003, it was possibe to read/write system files and protected parts of the registry by aquiring SYSTEM level privileges. I would imagine that the SYSTEM account and TrustedInstaller have similar, if not the same permissions in Windows Vista/7.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
15 Jun 2009   #16

Vista/Windows 7

Intresting. thanks for the info, will get the hidden admin sorted.

Thanks guys
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