Windows 7 - Snow Leopard is copying Windows 7.

Anyone notice....

WWDC 2009 Bertrand Serlet talks Snow Leopard.
-90% Refinements.
-Technologies.
-Exchange.

Copying...
-Leopard to Snow Leopard.
-WIndows Vista to Windows 7.

-Windows 7 Superbar Running Peek Preview.
-Clutter (Expose) in Snow Leopard.

-Windows 7 Build uppon Vista.
-Snow Leopard build uppon Leopard.

-Windows 7 is better than vista.
-Snow Leopard build a better Leopard.

-Fast OS installation in Windows 7.
-Fast OS installation in Snow Leopard.

-More resizeable OS space in Windows 7.
-More resizeable OS space(compressed) in Snow Leopard.

-Windows Media Player 11 & 12 full screen mode.
-Snow Leopard Quicktime X full screen mode look familiar...

-Why Snow Leopard Upgrade so cheap $29:
No many to upgrade.
No new things.
Still same as old Leopard.

Really, to be honest... I think its the other way around.

OSX is a very good, very advanced operating system.

Eh, that isn't a very good argument. I mean the new OS should preform better than the previous, so it is redundant stating all of the speed increasements. Its good that there is some OS competition, so that we can gain new technologies faster.

Yes OS X is decent, but not that advanced.

Windows and OS X will always steal ideas from one another, same goes for browsers.

Personally I say Windows 7 is much more different from Vista, then Snow Leopard is from Leopard. My opinion though, haven't tried snow leopard yet so I wont know for sure.

Every OS copies UNIX.

You keep thinking that.

Though I suppose OS X is Unix with a fancy GUI put over it. =P

Over time, things are going to be done more and more in similar ways for similar reasons, especially as each observes a bit what the other does and why.

If anything they're "copying" each other.

As time goes on, I expect some things like icons and wallpapers, etc., are obviously going to remain different, but it wouldn't surprise me if it becomes harder and harder to distinguish OS's over time barring potential marketing difference. (Apple targeting arts community more, MS targeting business more, etc.)

There is no way that either Microsoft or Apple can prevent each other from seeing what each does in their respective products, and use that as motivation to do something similar. The key is whether or not the underlying code is being copied. So what if the visual aspects are similar. If the code that creates the specific application or effect is copied, then you're talkin g about patent infringement and copyright violation.

Does anyone remember the DoubleSpace/DriveSpace debacle of MSDOS 6.x? When Microsoft first included disk-wide compression technology in DOS, SuperStor successfully sued them for patent infringement, and Microsoft was forced to re-write the code. This whole thing happened not because both Microsoft and Superstor had competing compression products, but in some way or another, Microsoft's code resembled that of Superstor too closely.

As far as Apple copying Microsoft or Microsoft copying Apple is concerned, I don't really think they're copying each other. They're such looking at individual features and saying: That feature will be cool to have in our next release, how can we do the same thing differently or more effectively?

That kind of behavior happens across all industries, and cannot be avoided, short of being found guilty of espionage and outright theft...

this is just silly. most of the things you mention are going to apply to any software upgrade.

it's like saying Open Office is copying Nero because new versions of both apps have incrementally higher version numbers

Eh, everybody copies everybody else. I could list tons of things in Vista that seems like that were lifted straight from OS X.

But honestly, I think I like Apple's implementation some of things "copied" a lot more than Microsoft's. Especially Dock Expose vs live previews. Live Previews are less useful when they are 2" wide. And quicktime's control and title bar hiding does look a bit more refined.

Now if only Apple would copy Aero snap. (Does anybody here know how that could be accomplished through maybe Applescript?) I use Macs quite a bit and have grown to be reliant on it. Probably my single-most favorite feature of windows 7.