Startup fade-in/out misalignment

Trinitrotoluene · 08 Jan 2011

First of all, this is nothing major. Just something that looks out of the ordinary and I've been trying to find out for a while why it does this (MUST.... UNDERSTAND.... EVERYTHING.....

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At the welcome screen, you get this fade-in and fade-out deal, right? On my system, when it fades, it makes the picture shift to the left really quick in a vibrating type of way. I've tried to capture it on my phone, but the FPS isn't high enough to capture it, It's a .3gp file, vlc plays it. I don't have any software to convert it, sorry:

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To be honest, the video shows pretty much nothing. But to get my idea, look close at about 11 seconds to the right of my monitor. You can see the picture shift real quick to the left. When it blurs out, it all looks normal because of the the lower FPS of my phone camera, it didn't capture anything. But trust me when I say it is really obviously vibrating and shifting to the left.
I remember it didn't always do this, but I can't seem to nail it down

Perhaps something related to graphics drivers initialization that hasn't completed yet?

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ickymay · 08 Jan 2011

very hard to tell from that video as your moving too but I believe that looks like your samsung monitor auto adjusting ?

Trinitrotoluene · 08 Jan 2011

Sounds plausible! But the weird thing is, it didn't always do this. Also, why would it go on an auto-adjust mayhem when the fade out/in kicks in (not visible in video unfortunately). Do you think that would also be auto-adjustments so fast and so frequent in those few seconds?

Anak · 08 Jan 2011

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Imho.....
When you finished building your machine, and started it up for the first time it was as pristine as the new fallen snow that is occurring outside my house right now.

But, as you added more programs; the processes, services, and start-ups increased causing the monitor to work harder as it was preparing the desktop.
In turn this increased the effect your seeing.

I calmed mine down by making sure I had the latest drivers for my Video, and Monitor.

According to your SystemSpecs.
For the Video Card:
AMD Support Search

For the Monitor:
Support for PX2370 LED Series 70 SAMSUNG

You might also try turning off Auto-Adjust to see if the effect is greater or less.

From Samsung:

Special Features Magic Lux, Magic ECO, Magic Return, Magic Angle, MagicBright3, Off timer, Image Size Colour Effect, Customised key, MagicWizard & MagicTune with AssetManagement, Windows 7 Certification, Safe Mode (DownScaling in UXGA)

The most comfortable viewing experience for you - PX2370 - LCD Monitor - Monitor | SAMSUNG

Personally I'd be leery of those "Magic" features.

It would take some work on your part, but you might be able to adjust some of the "jumpiness" out.
I don't think you'll get all of it, but hopefully you can get it to calm down.

EDIT:

Also, why would it go on an auto-adjust mayhem when the fade out/in kicks in (not visible in video unfortunately). Do you think that would also be auto-adjustments so fast and so frequent in those few seconds?

Of course! After all, the screen is going from True Color to Black, then back to True Color.

Trinitrotoluene · 08 Jan 2011

Nice! So I have Catalyst 10.12 already, wasn't sure if I had the Samsung driver, but I just reinstalled it: no difference. And it seems auto-adjust is unavailable on digital source? I don't use any of those magic features, don't like them either.

the processes, services, and start-ups increased causing the monitor to work harder as it was preparing the desktop.

Not sure if I get that. The monitor just gets the picture from the graphics card and the rest of the system. How do all those extra processes and services add to the effect I'm seeing?

Not sure if this was clear or obvious so far: this vibrating and misalignment only happens during startup/shutdown with the fades. But forget about it if that was clear enough already.

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Anak · 08 Jan 2011

Not sure if I get that. The monitor just gets the picture from the graphics card and the rest of the system. How do all those extra processes and services add to the effect I'm seeing?

Their usage is decreasing the total amount of memory, and CPU cycles available to the Video card and Monitor.

Trinitrotoluene · 08 Jan 2011

Yes, fair enough. But how come the monitor does not show any of this stuff while the system is performing way more intense tasks?

edit: it also does this shifting to the left, just once, when I'm in a game and I activate xfire in-game menu. And then when I exit the in-game xfire menu and enter it again, it doesn't do this. Is this in-line with your theory?

Anak · 08 Jan 2011

Trinitrotoluene said:

Yes, fair enough. But how come the monitor does not show any of this stuff while the system is performing way more intense tasks?

Because the screen is not going from True Color to Black, then back to True Color.
Such as booting from one OS to another. During Tasking there is always a True Color signal being generated.

Reading the Samsung PX2370 manual Support for PX2370 SAMSUNG I've found that auto-adjust is only available if the Monitor uses the DVI to D-Sub cable (Analog).

If you are using any other type cable you need to go into the Video Card properties to set-up auto-adjust.

See 3-4 Product Operating Buttons (AUTO) here, a 7.12mb pdf:
http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/co...992A-01Eng.pdf

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Strange..... Your edit did not show in your reply post, only when I went to reply to your above "quote"

Trinitrotoluene said:

edit: it also does this shifting to the left, just once, when I'm in a game and I activate xfire in-game menu. And then when I exit the in-game xfire menu and enter it again, it doesn't do this. Is this in-line with your theory?

No. This is something different.
Try adjusting the overscan/underscan settings in the Catalyst control panel, in display settings. It may also be a 'zoom' or 'wide adjustment' issue.

Trinitrotoluene · 08 Jan 2011

Underscan/overscan isn't fixing that specific "issue". And I can't find 'zoom' or 'wide adjustments'. Funny, I just installed Catalyst 10.12 with the new CCC2 (was solely using the display drivers first). And I noticed that, when closing CCC, my monitor also adjusts itself real quick by shifting the picture to the left and back again (same as with xfire in-game menu).

Where can I find the auto-adjust setting in my video card options? I've looked around in CCC but I couldn't find anything.

Anak · 08 Jan 2011

Trinitrotoluene said:

Underscan/overscan isn't fixing that specific "issue". And I can't find 'zoom' or 'wide adjustments'. Funny, I just installed Catalyst 10.12 with the new CCC2 (was solely using the display drivers first). And I noticed that, when closing CCC, my monitor also adjusts itself real quick by shifting the picture to the left and back again (same as with xfire in-game menu).

I found this:

Known issues under the Windows 7 operating systemThe following section provides a summary of open issues that may be experienced under the Windows 7 operating system in the latest version of AMD Catalyst™.

These include:Video settings might not be retained after enabling / disabling Crossfire.

Here:AMD Catalyst

Does xfire equate to Crossfire?

Trinitrotoluene said:

Where can I find the auto-adjust setting in my video card options? I've looked around in CCC but I couldn't find anything.

Third comment down has the poster asking where is auto-tune? in 10.12 .

A little further down there's mention that it wasn't there in 10.10 either

You may have to rely on the auto-tune that comes with the PX2370, and those "Magic" settings.

I only have one more question.....

Did you un-install the previous video driver before installing the 10.12 driver?
That seems to be the accepted procedure.

And another suggestion....
Try turning the auto-adjust on the monitor off, and then wait till it completes its cycle before turning it back on, then wait until it cycles before turning it back off. Do this at least three times.