| Windows 7: Startup fade-in/out misalignment |
08 Jan 2011
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#1 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Retail |
Startup fade-in/out misalignment First of all, this is nothing major. Just something that looks out of the ordinary and I've been trying to find out for a while why it does this (MUST.... UNDERSTAND.... EVERYTHING.....  )
At the welcome screen, you get this fade-in and fade-out deal, right? On my system, when it fades, it makes the picture shift to the left really quick in a vibrating type of way. I've tried to capture it on my phone, but the FPS isn't high enough to capture it, It's a .3gp file, vlc plays it. I don't have any software to convert it, sorry: MEGAUPLOAD - The leading online storage and file delivery service
To be honest, the video shows pretty much nothing. But to get my idea, look close at about 11 seconds to the right of my monitor. You can see the picture shift real quick to the left. When it blurs out, it all looks normal because of the the lower FPS of my phone camera, it didn't capture anything. But trust me when I say it is really obviously vibrating and shifting to the left.
I remember it didn't always do this, but I can't seem to nail it down  Perhaps something related to graphics drivers initialization that hasn't completed yet?
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08 Jan 2011
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#2 | | win7 ultimate / virtual box weston super mare, UK |
very hard to tell from that video as your moving too but I believe that looks like your samsung monitor auto adjusting ? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number built my own OS win7 ultimate / virtual box CPU Intel Core i7 3770K,1155, Ivy Bridge Motherboard MSI Z77A-G43 Memory GSkill Ripjaws Z Series 1600 CL 9.0 16GB Graphics Card KFA2 GeForce GTX 670 EX OC 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-E gfx card Sound Card onboard Nvidia HDMI audio Monitor(s) Displays ASUS VK222H 22" widescreen LCD monitor Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard logitech Mouse logitech MX518 PSU Corsair HX 750W ATX2.2 Modular Cooling Antec 25 Kuhler H2O 620 Hard Drives Kingston 128gb SSD
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08 Jan 2011
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Retail |
Sounds plausible! But the weird thing is, it didn't always do this. Also, why would it go on an auto-adjust mayhem when the fade out/in kicks in (not visible in video unfortunately). Do you think that would also be auto-adjustments so fast and so frequent in those few seconds? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Myself OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Retail CPU Intel Core i7 930 Motherboard Gigabyte X58A UD3R 2.0 Memory KHX1600C8D3K3/6GX Graphics Card AMD Radeon 5870 Sound Card Creative X-Fi Titanium Monitor(s) Displays Samsung PX2370 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech Illuminated Mouse Logitech G5 PSU Corsair HX850W Case CM690 II Advanced Cooling Case 2x front, 2x top, 1x bottom, 1x back CPU Mugen 2 rev.B Hard Drives 2x Samsung HD103SJ Raid0 (windows, apps, games)
2x Samsung HD204UI Raid1
1x WD3200KS Other Info Bipedal carbon based high-latency and small cache-sized biological operator behind the keyboard. What would you expect?! |
08 Jan 2011
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#4 | | Win 7 Home Premium 64bit Ver 6.1.7600 Build 7601 - SP1 Central Pa. |
Quote: So... Who gets to win eternal fame?! I believe ickymay...mite.......
Imho.....
When you finished building your machine, and started it up for the first time it was as pristine as the new fallen snow that is occurring outside my house right now.
But, as you added more programs; the processes, services, and start-ups increased causing the monitor to work harder as it was preparing the desktop.
In turn this increased the effect your seeing.
I calmed mine down by making sure I had the latest drivers for my Video, and Monitor.
According to your SystemSpecs.
For the Video Card: AMD Support Search
For the Monitor: Support for PX2370 LED Series 70 SAMSUNG
You might also try turning off Auto-Adjust to see if the effect is greater or less.
From Samsung: Quote: Special Features Magic Lux, Magic ECO, Magic Return, Magic Angle, MagicBright3, Off timer, Image Size Colour Effect, Customised key, MagicWizard & MagicTune with AssetManagement, Windows 7 Certification, Safe Mode (DownScaling in UXGA) The most comfortable viewing experience for you - PX2370 - LCD Monitor - Monitor | SAMSUNG
Personally I'd be leery of those "Magic" features.
It would take some work on your part, but you might be able to adjust some of the "jumpiness" out.
I don't think you'll get all of it, but hopefully you can get it to calm down.
EDIT: Quote: Also, why would it go on an auto-adjust mayhem when the fade out/in kicks in (not visible in video unfortunately). Do you think that would also be auto-adjustments so fast and so frequent in those few seconds? Of course! After all, the screen is going from True Color to Black, then back to True Color. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Gateway DX4831e (Mid-Tower Desktop) OS Win 7 Home Premium 64bit Ver 6.1.7600 Build 7601 - SP1 CPU Intel i3 530 2.93GHz, 2933MHz 2 Cores 4 Logical Processors Motherboard Gateway H57M01 133 megahertz Memory 6GB of 1,333MHz DDR3 SDRAM Graphics Card 32MB Intel Graphics Media Accelerator HD IGChip Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Gateway HX2000 20inch TFT active matrix TN Screen Resolution 1600 x 900 x 59 hertz Keyboard MS 'Natural' Standard PS/2 Enhanced 101-102 Key Mouse Gateway USB wired optical PSU 300watts. Case Mid-Tower Desktop Cooling Stock from Gateway Hard Drives WDC WD10EADS-00M2B0 [HDD] (1000.20 GB) -- drive 0,
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08 Jan 2011
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Retail |
Nice! So I have Catalyst 10.12 already, wasn't sure if I had the Samsung driver, but I just reinstalled it: no difference. And it seems auto-adjust is unavailable on digital source? I don't use any of those magic features, don't like them either. Quote: the processes, services, and start-ups increased causing the monitor to work harder as it was preparing the desktop. Not sure if I get that. The monitor just gets the picture from the graphics card and the rest of the system. How do all those extra processes and services add to the effect I'm seeing?
Not sure if this was clear or obvious so far: this vibrating and misalignment only happens during startup/shutdown with the fades. But forget about it if that was clear enough already.
Both your eternal fame share is 50-50 right now | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Myself OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Retail CPU Intel Core i7 930 Motherboard Gigabyte X58A UD3R 2.0 Memory KHX1600C8D3K3/6GX Graphics Card AMD Radeon 5870 Sound Card Creative X-Fi Titanium Monitor(s) Displays Samsung PX2370 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech Illuminated Mouse Logitech G5 PSU Corsair HX850W Case CM690 II Advanced Cooling Case 2x front, 2x top, 1x bottom, 1x back CPU Mugen 2 rev.B Hard Drives 2x Samsung HD103SJ Raid0 (windows, apps, games)
2x Samsung HD204UI Raid1
1x WD3200KS Other Info Bipedal carbon based high-latency and small cache-sized biological operator behind the keyboard. What would you expect?! |
08 Jan 2011
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#6 | | Win 7 Home Premium 64bit Ver 6.1.7600 Build 7601 - SP1 Central Pa. |
Quote: Not sure if I get that. The monitor just gets the picture from the graphics card and the rest of the system. How do all those extra processes and services add to the effect I'm seeing? Their usage is decreasing the total amount of memory, and CPU cycles available to the Video card and Monitor. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Gateway DX4831e (Mid-Tower Desktop) OS Win 7 Home Premium 64bit Ver 6.1.7600 Build 7601 - SP1 CPU Intel i3 530 2.93GHz, 2933MHz 2 Cores 4 Logical Processors Motherboard Gateway H57M01 133 megahertz Memory 6GB of 1,333MHz DDR3 SDRAM Graphics Card 32MB Intel Graphics Media Accelerator HD IGChip Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Gateway HX2000 20inch TFT active matrix TN Screen Resolution 1600 x 900 x 59 hertz Keyboard MS 'Natural' Standard PS/2 Enhanced 101-102 Key Mouse Gateway USB wired optical PSU 300watts. Case Mid-Tower Desktop Cooling Stock from Gateway Hard Drives WDC WD10EADS-00M2B0 [HDD] (1000.20 GB) -- drive 0,
HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH41N [CD-ROM dr]
HP Photosmart Plus B210a e_series AIO Printer
Four card readers, and Four USB 2.0 Internet Speed Verizon FIOS 24.57Mbps Down - 5.68Mbps up Antivirus MSE Browser IE9.0.8112.16421-Upd ver 9.0.13, FireFox 19.2, Opera 12.14 Other Info BIOS: American Megatrends Inc. P01-A0 11/17/2009
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08 Jan 2011
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Retail |
Yes, fair enough. But how come the monitor does not show any of this stuff while the system is performing way more intense tasks?
edit: it also does this shifting to the left, just once, when I'm in a game and I activate xfire in-game menu. And then when I exit the in-game xfire menu and enter it again, it doesn't do this. Is this in-line with your theory?
Last edited by Trinitrotoluene; 08 Jan 2011 at 11:21 AM..
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Myself OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Retail CPU Intel Core i7 930 Motherboard Gigabyte X58A UD3R 2.0 Memory KHX1600C8D3K3/6GX Graphics Card AMD Radeon 5870 Sound Card Creative X-Fi Titanium Monitor(s) Displays Samsung PX2370 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech Illuminated Mouse Logitech G5 PSU Corsair HX850W Case CM690 II Advanced Cooling Case 2x front, 2x top, 1x bottom, 1x back CPU Mugen 2 rev.B Hard Drives 2x Samsung HD103SJ Raid0 (windows, apps, games)
2x Samsung HD204UI Raid1
1x WD3200KS Other Info Bipedal carbon based high-latency and small cache-sized biological operator behind the keyboard. What would you expect?! |
08 Jan 2011
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#8 | | Win 7 Home Premium 64bit Ver 6.1.7600 Build 7601 - SP1 Central Pa. |

Quote: Originally Posted by Trinitrotoluene Yes, fair enough. But how come the monitor does not show any of this stuff while the system is performing way more intense tasks? Because the screen is not going from True Color to Black, then back to True Color.
Such as booting from one OS to another. During Tasking there is always a True Color signal being generated.
Reading the Samsung PX2370 manual Support for PX2370 SAMSUNG I've found that auto-adjust is only available if the Monitor uses the DVI to D-Sub cable (Analog).
If you are using any other type cable you need to go into the Video Card properties to set-up auto-adjust.
See 3-4 Product Operating Buttons (AUTO) here, a 7.12mb pdf: http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/co...992A-01Eng.pdf ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ ~~~ Strange..... Your edit did not show in your reply post, only when I went to reply to your above "quote" 
Quote: Originally Posted by Trinitrotoluene edit: it also does this shifting to the left, just once, when I'm in a game and I activate xfire in-game menu. And then when I exit the in-game xfire menu and enter it again, it doesn't do this. Is this in-line with your theory? No. This is something different.
Try adjusting the overscan/underscan settings in the Catalyst control panel, in display settings. It may also be a 'zoom' or 'wide adjustment' issue. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Gateway DX4831e (Mid-Tower Desktop) OS Win 7 Home Premium 64bit Ver 6.1.7600 Build 7601 - SP1 CPU Intel i3 530 2.93GHz, 2933MHz 2 Cores 4 Logical Processors Motherboard Gateway H57M01 133 megahertz Memory 6GB of 1,333MHz DDR3 SDRAM Graphics Card 32MB Intel Graphics Media Accelerator HD IGChip Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Gateway HX2000 20inch TFT active matrix TN Screen Resolution 1600 x 900 x 59 hertz Keyboard MS 'Natural' Standard PS/2 Enhanced 101-102 Key Mouse Gateway USB wired optical PSU 300watts. Case Mid-Tower Desktop Cooling Stock from Gateway Hard Drives WDC WD10EADS-00M2B0 [HDD] (1000.20 GB) -- drive 0,
HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH41N [CD-ROM dr]
HP Photosmart Plus B210a e_series AIO Printer
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08 Jan 2011
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#9 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Retail |
Underscan/overscan isn't fixing that specific "issue". And I can't find 'zoom' or 'wide adjustments'. Funny, I just installed Catalyst 10.12 with the new CCC2 (was solely using the display drivers first). And I noticed that, when closing CCC, my monitor also adjusts itself real quick by shifting the picture to the left and back again (same as with xfire in-game menu).
Where can I find the auto-adjust setting in my video card options? I've looked around in CCC but I couldn't find anything. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Myself OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Retail CPU Intel Core i7 930 Motherboard Gigabyte X58A UD3R 2.0 Memory KHX1600C8D3K3/6GX Graphics Card AMD Radeon 5870 Sound Card Creative X-Fi Titanium Monitor(s) Displays Samsung PX2370 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech Illuminated Mouse Logitech G5 PSU Corsair HX850W Case CM690 II Advanced Cooling Case 2x front, 2x top, 1x bottom, 1x back CPU Mugen 2 rev.B Hard Drives 2x Samsung HD103SJ Raid0 (windows, apps, games)
2x Samsung HD204UI Raid1
1x WD3200KS Other Info Bipedal carbon based high-latency and small cache-sized biological operator behind the keyboard. What would you expect?! |
08 Jan 2011
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#10 | | Win 7 Home Premium 64bit Ver 6.1.7600 Build 7601 - SP1 Central Pa. |

Quote: Originally Posted by Trinitrotoluene Underscan/overscan isn't fixing that specific "issue". And I can't find 'zoom' or 'wide adjustments'. Funny, I just installed Catalyst 10.12 with the new CCC2 (was solely using the display drivers first). And I noticed that, when closing CCC, my monitor also adjusts itself real quick by shifting the picture to the left and back again (same as with xfire in-game menu). I found this: Quote: Known issues under the Windows 7 operating systemThe following section provides a summary of open issues that may be experienced under the Windows 7 operating system in the latest version of AMD Catalyst™. Quote: These include:Video settings might not be retained after enabling / disabling Crossfire. Here: AMD Catalyst
Does xfire equate to Crossfire? 
Quote: Originally Posted by Trinitrotoluene Where can I find the auto-adjust setting in my video card options? I've looked around in CCC but I couldn't find anything.
Third comment down has the poster asking where is auto-tune? in 10.12 .
A little further down there's mention that it wasn't there in 10.10 either 
You may have to rely on the auto-tune that comes with the PX2370, and those "Magic" settings.
I only have one more question.....
Did you un-install the previous video driver before installing the 10.12 driver?
That seems to be the accepted procedure.
And another suggestion....
Try turning the auto-adjust on the monitor off, and then wait till it completes its cycle before turning it back on, then wait until it cycles before turning it back off. Do this at least three times. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Gateway DX4831e (Mid-Tower Desktop) OS Win 7 Home Premium 64bit Ver 6.1.7600 Build 7601 - SP1 CPU Intel i3 530 2.93GHz, 2933MHz 2 Cores 4 Logical Processors Motherboard Gateway H57M01 133 megahertz Memory 6GB of 1,333MHz DDR3 SDRAM Graphics Card 32MB Intel Graphics Media Accelerator HD IGChip Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Gateway HX2000 20inch TFT active matrix TN Screen Resolution 1600 x 900 x 59 hertz Keyboard MS 'Natural' Standard PS/2 Enhanced 101-102 Key Mouse Gateway USB wired optical PSU 300watts. Case Mid-Tower Desktop Cooling Stock from Gateway Hard Drives WDC WD10EADS-00M2B0 [HDD] (1000.20 GB) -- drive 0,
HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GH41N [CD-ROM dr]
HP Photosmart Plus B210a e_series AIO Printer
Four card readers, and Four USB 2.0 Internet Speed Verizon FIOS 24.57Mbps Down - 5.68Mbps up Antivirus MSE Browser IE9.0.8112.16421-Upd ver 9.0.13, FireFox 19.2, Opera 12.14 Other Info BIOS: American Megatrends Inc. P01-A0 11/17/2009
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