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Windows 7: 3 Major Window 7 Complaints


11 Jan 2011   #21
Hopalong X

Windows7 Pro 64bit SP-1; Windows XP Pro 32bit
 
 

Mike

He didn't ask for help. Seems he wanted MS complaint department so I provided a link.
No disrespect intended but we aren't Microsoft.

I also provided a link to Dzomjila's tutorial.

If they asked a question then someone could assist.
Still waiting for his question.
Mike


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11 Jan 2011   #22
mikedl

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Thanks, Mike. Understood and much appreciated.

However, I see all too often wherein a new poster is put on the defensive. We all have a larger responsibility in this area - especially us "Gurus."

Again, my very humble, observational opinion.
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11 Jan 2011   #23
Cato

Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mikedl View Post
I dunno, the guy brings a few legitimate complaints to the table and he's met with ... derision?

I hate the Search function in Win 7. Have I learned to use it and tweak the indexing? Sure. Was it much, much easier in XP? Sure.

A bit of help and guidance in regard to his complaints would go much further than retorts simply saying "learn the new way."

My very humble opinion ...
You make some good points, but, if you look at message #5 and message #7, I think you will see that the OP wasn't really interested in help as he was in putting down forum members.

Right or wrong, attitudes are usually met with like attitudes.
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11 Jan 2011   #24
nitroman84

windows 7 Pro 64Bit
 
 

I think any one of us could have drove over to his house in person and showed him exactly how to do everything he wanted and he would still find something to complain about. Some people would just rather throw insults than accept advice.
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11 Jan 2011   #25
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

mike, you certainly have a valid point. But we all can sense whether someone is coming here for help or just ranting. He started already in his first sentence with:
Quote:
valuable functionality removed and it seems as though Microsoft has no intention of restoring these back. I would really like to know WHY?

How are we supposed to know why Microsoft does things the way they do. I think he was not asking for a solution, but for an argument. Several people gave him good guidance on how things work in Win7, but instead he gave an "education lesson" on XP. I don't think we treated him unfairly. He asked for it.
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11 Jan 2011   #26
mikedl

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Fair enough, Wolfgang and all the others justifying their responses. My apologies.

Certainly, many gave concise responses but the tone can sometimes catalyze the disintegration of productive discussions.

I guess I'm a bit too sensitive regarding such, admittedly so. I do respect all of you very highly and I am honored to be a part of these Forums.

Thank you, all, for weighing my very humble opinion.
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11 Jan 2011   #27
Sardonicus

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

Tone and phrasing has a lot to do with the tone in which we're answered.
Use these .
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11 Jan 2011   #28
sygnus21

Windows 8.1 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mikedl View Post
I dunno, the guy brings a few legitimate complaints to the table and he's met with ... derision?

I hate the Search function in Win 7. Have I learned to use it and tweak the indexing? Sure. Was it much, much easier in XP? Sure.

A bit of help and guidance in regard to his complaints would go much further than retorts simply saying "learn the new way."

My very humble opinion ...
Good point. Though I didn't like the guy's tone I could see why he got defensive. But to be honest his tone put people in attck mode, whether intentional or not.

Anyway you make a valid point, and one we need to remember.

My two cents.
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12 Jan 2011   #29
James Colbert

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post

Good point. Though I didn't like the guy's tone I could see why he got defensive. But to be honest his tone put people in attck mode, whether intentional or not.
Something we could all learn from (myself included), except I believe it was he who was put on the defensive. Remember, he's a 'guest' in our 'house'. Me? I have a problem with 'Gurus' who jump on new (& regular) posters, as though, somehow, their sensibilities have been offended. It is, after all, why we're here...to help those who don't understand.

I have been very vocal about this issue, much to the irritation of some. So much so that perhaps I risk becoming to those gurus what they are to the newbies that rant or ask that "irritating" question (or questions that press the buttons of some). How disconcerting is that ?

Many here set an example of responding respectfully no matter what the circumstances. I aspire to such behaviour, lest I become that which I protest against. As should we all.

James
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12 Jan 2011   #30
sygnus21

Windows 8.1 Pro
 
 

James I completely agree with your point and will say that I have reported posts where "senior" members were bashing guests. And I'm sure some of mine have been reported as well. However "guests/new members" need understand that their tone also affects the response they receive.

Yes the senior members should know better, but the guests can't just come in your house and start giving attitude.

I'm not saying we didn't have dirty hands too, but his second post didn't exactly convey a warm hello to the forum members either....

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by garret334 View Post
Please before you comment, I hope everyone else will know what they are talking about.
Let's just look at this as a lesson learned and move on.

My two cents.
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