| Windows 7: New Hard Drive suggestions? |
05 Jan 2009
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Somewhere on the 3rd rock from the sun. |
My personal preference is to stick with Seagate as they have been more reliable OOB than WDs have in the last several years.
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05 Jan 2009
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WD Caviar Black 32MB cache FTW.
Otherwise if you have the money go SSD. | My System Specs | | |
05 Jan 2009
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Hi thanks for the replies,
I was thinking of the WD SE16 because of the great reviews.
Many of the reviews were in mags. but I did find a couple on the net - good reading for anyone interested in hard drives.
WD Caviar Blue SE16 Western Digital's Caviar SE16 640GB hard drive - The Tech Report - Page 1 Quote: Conclusions
Although the Caviar SE16 640GB doesn't break new ground in storage capacity, platter density, or cache size, Western Digital has struck a good balance between those elements and delivered perhaps the most capable 3.5" hard drive we've ever tested. Throughout WorldBench, the SE16 exhibited excellent performance with common desktop applications. The drive's sequential transfer rates were exceptionally quick, as well, although not always as fast as those offered by the SpinPoint F1. However, the SE16 also finished near the front of the pack in iPEAK, maintaining reasonably balanced performance across most of our multitasking workloads. That balance carried over to IOMeter, where unlike the SpinPoint, the Caviar didn't crumble under demanding multi-user loads.
We've focused on how the Caviar compares to the SpinPoint because the Samsung drive was our previous performance leader. It still is in many tests, but the F1 has a split personality that causes it to suffer badly in some tests. The 640GB SE16 doesn't have a Mr. Hyde lurking in the background, allowing it to maintain great performance across a broader range of workloads.
Of course, there's more to a drive's performance than transfer rates and response times. Power consumption and noise levels count for a lot these days, and the Caviar delivers on both fronts. Not only does its power consumption flirt with that of Western Digital's own GreenPower drives, but its noise levels are among the lowest we've ever measured, too. Even with a 7,200-RPM spindle speed, the Caviar SE16 640GB is for all intents and purposes just as quiet as a Caviar GP.
WD Caviar Black SE32 Western Digital's Caviar Black hard drive - The Tech Report - Page 1 Quote: Of course, performance leadership doesn't necessarily make the Black flawless. The drive's power consumption may be low, but its noise levels are not. I suppose there's a price to be paid for speed, but given the low noise levels of the Caviar SE16 640GB, I had hoped the Black would be quieter.
Top-of-the-line capacities rarely deliver the best value for dollar, and given the Black's pack-leading performance and five-year warranty, it's hard to complain too much about the associated price premium.
Sure, it's the fastest 7,200-RPM drive on the market, but it's also a little pricey and probably too loud for many enthusiasts' desktop systems.
For enthusiasts, the Caviar SE16 640GB offers the best blend of performance, capacity, noise levels, and overall value of any 7,200-RPM desktop drive.
Seagate 7200.11 Seagate's Barracuda 7200.11 hard drive - The Tech Report - Page 1 Quote:
Conclusions
With 250GB platters, 32MB of cache, and a 7,200-RPM spindle speed, the Barracuda 7200.11 should be the fastest high-capacity drive on the market. Except that it isn't. Results from our performance testing are mixed at best, with the new 'cuda excelling in some tests but faltering badly in others.
Reasonably low power consumption should also appeal to the enterprise crowd, and we're pleased to report that the 7200.11 has returned the Barracuda to relative silence. Those factors would combine to make the new 'cuda an attractive option for home theater PCs where transfer rates and application performance are less of a concern.
Although the drive's five-year warranty may justify the premium for some, it doesn't quite do it for me. However, reliability is important and the comments about the Seagate together with the 5yr guarantee (as opposed to 3yrs on the WD ) have to be considered.
SSD ? - it will be a while before they reach sensible prices and I figure if I get a good HDD now - it will get many years use first as the main drive and then as a secondary in couple of years.
Thanks for your comments - personal experience counts for a lot.
Any more comments/suggestions welcome.
SIW2 | My System Specs | | OS Vista x64 / 7 X64 CPU E8400 Motherboard ASRock 1333 GLAN R2.0 Memory 2x1 gb 800mhz Graphics Card 9500gt 1gb Case Coolermaster Cooling Winpower 500w Hard Drives Maxtor 160gb-2mb cache |
05 Jan 2009
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#5 | | XP Pro, Windows 7 Ultimate 64 & 32 Build 7022 Brandon, FL |
I personally prefer WD just because if something does go wrong with the drive you can easily send in for RMA & get a new one in like 2 days, all HDD's on my system are WD. I have had lots of issues with Seagate & Samsung drives just going out after a month or so. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS XP Pro, Windows 7 Ultimate 64 & 32 Build 7022 CPU 6600 2.40 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo Motherboard Nvidia nForce 650i Ultra Memory 4096 GB DDR2 Graphics Card 512 MB Nvidia GeForce 8400 GS PCI E Keyboard Logitech Wireless Keyboard Mouse Logitech MX 700 Wireless Optical Mouse PSU 600 Watt Case Custom Cooling Zalman Hard Drives 2 x 250 GB Western Digital SATA
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05 Jan 2009
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Quote: Originally Posted by djhallucn8 I personally prefer WD just because if something does go wrong with the drive you can easily send in for RMA & get a new one in like 2 days, all HDD's on my system are WD. I have had lots of issues with Seagate & Samsung drives just going out after a month or so. I couldn't agree more. I used to use Seagate almost exclusively until about 5-6 years ago when I started noticing (problems) their quality degrade. I use WD now, and I have good luck...at least so far. Things might have changed, but it's hard to go back to Seagate when I have no motivation to do so. Price is a motivation, but not at the cost of quality.
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05 Jan 2009
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#7 | | W 7 64-bit Ultimate The Lowcountry |
Hello SIW2.
I just want to say thanks for posting the reviews. I too am very interested, because I'm buying drives for the new system. I already bought one 7200.11 Seagate but I think the rest will be Caviar Black, and a pair of 10k VelociRaptors to put 7 on when it's released.
Thank you!
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05 Jan 2009
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Hi Kid,
It's interesting - have seen some reviews in UK mags - broadly in agreement with Techreport.
They all say the SE16 640GB is a best buy, for while the SE32 640GB is faster ( although not by much ) they all point out the noise - so it must be noticeable. Also makes me think ( perhaps wrongly ) that if it's making all that noise, it may be wearing itself out.
They all seem to put The Seagate 7200.11 in the middle of the pack - it does some things well , others not so well.
The thing that concerned me about WD was a couple people said they had problems with them. Now we've had a couple saying the opposite.
Thanks for the responses everyone - keep them coming. Western Digital Caviar Blue (640GB) | Hard disks / storage | Reviews | Custom PC
They say here WD SE16 640GB performs as well as WD SE32 1TB ( the fact it is smaller, i.e. one less platter helps, of course ) Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB | Hard disks / storage | Reviews | Custom PC
So if you are going for the WD Black SE32 - get the 640GB rather than the 1TB.
SIW2
Last edited by SIW2; 05 Jan 2009 at 11:29 PM..
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06 Jan 2009
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#10 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Somewhere on the 3rd rock from the sun. |
6 years ago I would not have looked at a Seagate drive because of all their problems that manifest roughly 7 (?) years ago. But then I went out and bought a 120 GB IDE drive that was a 'Cuda - and it reinstalled my faith in the Seagate manufacturing system.
I used to prefer WDs, but *only* because they bought out the (hands down) absolute best HD manufacturer in the world - Conner. But, as usual, they screwed it up.
TBH, The WDs should be outperforming the Seagates in nearly every test - the fact that the Seagates are hanging in there, and are back to their quiet, fast operation *and* the fact that in 5 years of ownership I have yet to have a Seagate die on me (while in the same period I have had 3 IBM Deathstars, 2 Sammys and 4 - yes, 4 - WD SATA (original generation) drives die is no coincidence. My Seagates gets worked hard - but then again it could have to do with my OS configuration, and moving all my special folders to a separate drive, installing all games to a separate drive, and killing SR from the other drives....
In the end, go with what you feel most comfortable. As DJHallucinate said, the turnaround time for WDs is great - I wouldn't know for the Seagates cause I have yet to try to get a replacement for one. Out of 6 drives currently in my possession, all 6 work flawlessly, even the ancient 120 GB 'Cuda.
That is saying a lot in my book. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number The Beast Model V OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Core i7 965 EE @3.6 GHz Motherboard eVGA x58 Classified3 Memory 3 * 4GB Mushkin Enh Redline CL7 DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3-12800) Graphics Card eVGA 560 Ti 448 Core Classified + eVGA GTX260 SSC (PhysX) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio (on-board) Monitor(s) Displays 2 * Acer X213Wbd Screen Resolution 2 * 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Logitech G15 Keyboard Mouse Logitech Performance Mouse MX PSU ThermalTake BlackWidow TX TR2 850 W Case ThermalTake Level 10 GT (Black) Cooling Corsair H100 CPU | 2 * TT 140mm TriLED | 2 * Antec TriCool Hard Drives 1 * Intel Cheryville 520 180 GB SATA III SSD |
1 * Intel X-25M G2 80 GB SATA II SSD |
2 * Seagate 1 TB 32MB Cache 7200.12 SATA II Mech. Internet Speed Cable - 35 Mbit down / 12 Mbit up advertised (30 / 6 act.) Antivirus M$Se / MBAM Pro / WinPatrol Pro Browser Chome(dev) / Canary / Firefox Minefield / Opera Next / IE 10 Other Info Wacom Bamboo Touch |
Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-1850 |
Optimus STAV-3400 AV Receiver |
Bose 301 Series III Speakers (Main channel) |
Bose 161 Speakers (Surround) |
Optimus 3 way 100-W speaker (Center) |
Logitech Clearchat PC Wireless Headset |
Koss ProDJ 100 Headphones |
Microsoft LifeCam Studio |
Motorola Droid BIONIC |
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