| Windows 7: Unallocated 7.84 mb space materializes (from Outer Space?) |
06 Feb 2011
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Unallocated 7.84 mb space materializes (from Outer Space?) Hi,
I went to a lot of trouble to consolidate the 100 mb (BCD/bitlocker etc) partition that Windows 7 unexpectedly created when I installed 7 some months ago.
Since then I've configured a 7/XP as multi-boot system and thought it was stable. C: stored 7, D: stored XP, and there were 2 additional partitions.
Tonight Partition Wizard (bootable) tells me there is an unallocated 7.84 mb logical partition occupying sectors 0-16064. Neither 7 nor XP reports the existence of this space.
Definite details about the origin of such a storage mystery would be much appreciated.
Thx,
P | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number White Box OS Win7 Home Prem. 64 OEM CPU Intel i5-650 Motherboard Asus P7H55D-M EVO Memory G. Skill Ripjaws 4gb Graphics Card <None> Sound Card On-board Realtec Monitor(s) Displays Asus 10" LCD PSU Corsair 400w Case Antec Cooling 5 fans + Std Intel cpu Hard Drives 2 Samsung Spin-point 500 gb |
07 Feb 2011
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#2 | | Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium SP1 In The Woods |
Sounds like a partition alignment problem, as sectors 0-16064 are normally the first track on a hard disk. Update on V4 progression
Did you ever have a Linux partition on that computer? | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built - Jan 2013 OS Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium SP1 CPU i7-3820 Motherboard Asus P9X79-PRO - Bios 3305 Memory GSkill F3-14900CL9Q - 16GB Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX660 - Driver 310.90 Sound Card On board Realtek ALC898 Monitor(s) Displays Acer S271HL Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard MS KC-0405 Mouse Intellimouse 5-button PSU Corsair CMPSU-850TX-V2 - 850 watt (by Seasonic) Case Corsair Obsidian 550D Cooling Standard 3 120mm case fans, Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO Hard Drives #1- Samsung 840 Pro Series
#2- Western Digital WD1002FAEX Sata3 Black
#3- Western Digital WD1002FAEX Sata3 Black Internet Speed 25Mbits/Sec (on a good day) Antivirus Avast & Malwarebytes Browser Firefox Other Info Asus DVD - DRW-24B1ST 24X |
08 Feb 2011
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Quote: Originally Posted by TVeblen Sounds like a partition alignment problem, as sectors 0-16064 are normally the first track on a hard disk.
Update on V4 progression
Did you ever have a Linux partition on that computer? Never.
I built the system last May. Installed Windows 7-64 Home Prem. , then XP (multi-boot), and added 2 data partitions. A second identical HD stores a bit-for-bit copy of what is on the first.
P | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number White Box OS Win7 Home Prem. 64 OEM CPU Intel i5-650 Motherboard Asus P7H55D-M EVO Memory G. Skill Ripjaws 4gb Graphics Card <None> Sound Card On-board Realtec Monitor(s) Displays Asus 10" LCD PSU Corsair 400w Case Antec Cooling 5 fans + Std Intel cpu Hard Drives 2 Samsung Spin-point 500 gb |
08 Feb 2011
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#4 | | Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium SP1 In The Woods |
I *think* Partition Wizard (Bootable CD) will correct that. Although I have not done so personally. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built - Jan 2013 OS Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium SP1 CPU i7-3820 Motherboard Asus P9X79-PRO - Bios 3305 Memory GSkill F3-14900CL9Q - 16GB Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX660 - Driver 310.90 Sound Card On board Realtek ALC898 Monitor(s) Displays Acer S271HL Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard MS KC-0405 Mouse Intellimouse 5-button PSU Corsair CMPSU-850TX-V2 - 850 watt (by Seasonic) Case Corsair Obsidian 550D Cooling Standard 3 120mm case fans, Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO Hard Drives #1- Samsung 840 Pro Series
#2- Western Digital WD1002FAEX Sata3 Black
#3- Western Digital WD1002FAEX Sata3 Black Internet Speed 25Mbits/Sec (on a good day) Antivirus Avast & Malwarebytes Browser Firefox Other Info Asus DVD - DRW-24B1ST 24X |
08 Feb 2011
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ultimate AMD64 Sydney, Nova Scotia |
Windows XP leaves a very small unallocated space on the hard drive during its install. Its reserved for data related to making the partition part of a dynamic disk. If memory serves me right its around 8 megs on my XP PC. It also doesn't show up in Disk management on my XP PC but I know its there. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate AMD64 CPU AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz Motherboard Asus M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard Memory 8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory Graphics Card BFG NVIDIA Geforce 220GT 1 Gig DDR2 PCIe Sound Card VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard Monitor(s) Displays 2 x 19" I-INC AG191D TFT Flat Panel Screen Resolution 1280x1024 x 2 Keyboard Logitech Internet 600 Mouse Logitech Wireless Trackman Wheel PSU Retail Plus 465 Watt Case Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case Cooling Stock heatsink and fan Hard Drives 500 Gig WesternDigital SATA-300 Drive Internet Speed 80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Internet Explorer 10 Other Info HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2 |
08 Feb 2011
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#6 | | Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium SP1 In The Woods |
So Alpha - best for OP to leave it alone? | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built - Jan 2013 OS Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium SP1 CPU i7-3820 Motherboard Asus P9X79-PRO - Bios 3305 Memory GSkill F3-14900CL9Q - 16GB Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX660 - Driver 310.90 Sound Card On board Realtek ALC898 Monitor(s) Displays Acer S271HL Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard MS KC-0405 Mouse Intellimouse 5-button PSU Corsair CMPSU-850TX-V2 - 850 watt (by Seasonic) Case Corsair Obsidian 550D Cooling Standard 3 120mm case fans, Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO Hard Drives #1- Samsung 840 Pro Series
#2- Western Digital WD1002FAEX Sata3 Black
#3- Western Digital WD1002FAEX Sata3 Black Internet Speed 25Mbits/Sec (on a good day) Antivirus Avast & Malwarebytes Browser Firefox Other Info Asus DVD - DRW-24B1ST 24X |
08 Feb 2011
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Alpha is dead on , I would leave it alone | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number MSI OS Ultimate 7 CPU 1055T @ 3.7 Motherboard MSI Memory 16g Corsair Graphics Card HD5770 Sound Card Onboard Monitor(s) Displays FLat 23 PSU 850 Thermaltake Hard Drives SSD 64g Kingston
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08 Feb 2011
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#8 | | Windows 7 Ultimate AMD64 Sydney, Nova Scotia |
I always just left it, its only ~8 megs. I couldn't be bothered loading a third party partitioning app just to get ride of it. Once you installed XP it was out of site out of mind anyway. I just noticed that during the XP install, even if created a new partition, there was always this little bit left over. That got me curious so I did some digging to figure out what it was for. I don't think anything would happen if you recovered that space, unless you tried to setup a dynamic disk. Thats not something I think to many people do these days. Its up to you if you want to nuke it, just don't blame me if bad things happen. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate AMD64 CPU AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz Motherboard Asus M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard Memory 8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory Graphics Card BFG NVIDIA Geforce 220GT 1 Gig DDR2 PCIe Sound Card VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard Monitor(s) Displays 2 x 19" I-INC AG191D TFT Flat Panel Screen Resolution 1280x1024 x 2 Keyboard Logitech Internet 600 Mouse Logitech Wireless Trackman Wheel PSU Retail Plus 465 Watt Case Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case Cooling Stock heatsink and fan Hard Drives 500 Gig WesternDigital SATA-300 Drive Internet Speed 80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up Antivirus Microsoft Security Essentials Browser Internet Explorer 10 Other Info HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2 |
08 Feb 2011
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I appreciate your responses, and have heard of the dynamic-disk thingness before, but ...
The problem is not what to do with the 7.84 mb space, but rather determining where it came from.
Around 06-01-2010 I installed Windows 7 and was amazed to find it had written the first partition of 100mb (BCD, bitlocker, etc). It cost lots of time to find out what it was and consolidate it into the functional Windows 7 partition. Acute Heartburn!
By 08-11 I was certain that I wouldn't place primary reliance on Windows 7, so I spent lots of time learning about Windows 7/XP multi-boot, then installed XP as the 2nd partition. It did not create the 7.84 mb space.
The thing is, I need total control of what is stored on my HD's in order to specify and execute my backup strategy. I suppose I'm kinda "old school" in that it flat-out boggles my poor brain that *any* software product would write some unknown and unspecified (to the user) storage entity to a HD. Even worse that it would hide it from common program facilities like "Disk Management".
So, I'm just after control. Where did it come from? How can I prevent it from re-appearing?
Thanks,
P | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number White Box OS Win7 Home Prem. 64 OEM CPU Intel i5-650 Motherboard Asus P7H55D-M EVO Memory G. Skill Ripjaws 4gb Graphics Card <None> Sound Card On-board Realtec Monitor(s) Displays Asus 10" LCD PSU Corsair 400w Case Antec Cooling 5 fans + Std Intel cpu Hard Drives 2 Samsung Spin-point 500 gb |
09 Feb 2011
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SYMPTOMS
During Setup, if you choose to create a partition that uses the remaining space on a disk, you cannot use the maximum space available on the disk.
For example, if you choose to create a 4096-MB partition on a disk that has only 4096 MB available, the actual partition that is created may be 4095 MB or less in size.
CAUSE
Some space at the end of the disk is reserved by Setup in case you later want to upgrade the disk to a dynamic disk. Dynamic disk information is saved at the end of the disk. The amount that is reserved is a minimum of one cylinder, or 1MB, whichever is greater. One cylinder can be up to 8MB, depending on drive geometry and translation. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number MSI OS Ultimate 7 CPU 1055T @ 3.7 Motherboard MSI Memory 16g Corsair Graphics Card HD5770 Sound Card Onboard Monitor(s) Displays FLat 23 PSU 850 Thermaltake Hard Drives SSD 64g Kingston
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