| Windows 7: Full OS vs an Upgrade... |
27 Jun 2009
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#1 | | Vista x64 + Windows 7 x64 (Ultimate) Miami, Florida |
Full OS vs an Upgrade... I am sure this has been asked before but I didn't really know how to search for it, here it goes.
I have heard horror stories about upgrading to a new OS from and old one (95 to 98, 98 to Me, Me to XP, etc, etc) and that it is better to buy the full version and start with a clean slate... is there any truth to that? Are the Marketing Nazis behind this myth just to make you spend, yet, more money?
Frankly, I have never purchased any Microsoft OS until SP1 is out due to the bugs and glitches but, after testing the Windows 7 RC, not to its fullest of course, but to the extent of my liking, which by the way, is as far as I am ever going to take it anyways, I am thinking of dumping Vista x64 and just stick to 7.
Sure, there are still things that I can't do with 7 that I used to be able to do with XP easily but I am managing w/o them or trying to be patient with it... of course, that is not here nor there! | My System Specs |
| Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built OS Vista x64 + Windows 7 x64 (Ultimate) CPU Intel Q9650 Motherboard EVGA 780i FTW Memory 8GBs Corsair Dominator 1066Mhz Graphics Card Asus GTX660 (2GBs) + MSI 9600GT (PhysX) Sound Card Onboard Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays Acer AL2216W Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Logitech G15 Mouse Logitech G9 PSU PC Cooling 750w Silencer Case Thermaltake Spedo Advance Cooling CM 8V Hard Drives WD VelociRaptor 300GB
Samsung 750GB 32MB cache
1.5 TB Internet Speed Comcast 20Mbit Antivirus Avast Browser Firefox |
27 Jun 2009
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#2 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 7600 [MSDN] Los Angeles |
Clean install, every time. An 'upgrade' is generally possible but you will invariably have problems because the OS has to contend with 'left-overs' and countless configuration issues. I've personally tested the upgrade option of just about every build. And yes, there are plenty are discussions about this and the consensus is clear; a system is more responsive and stable on a clean install over an upgrade. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build/Mod OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 7600 [MSDN] CPU Intel QX9650 Extreme 5.0 GHz Motherboard ASUS Rampage Extreme Rev2 Memory 8GB (4x2) Corsair Dominator DDR3 Graphics Card 2x Sapphire Radeon HD4870X2 (QuadFire) Sound Card SupremeFX X-Fi Monitor(s) Displays Dell 2408WFP 24" Panel Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Keyboard Logitech Mouse Logitech PSU Corsair HX1000 Case CoolerMaster - Cosmos S Cooling Custom Liquid - 320mm rad w/ 3x 80mm fans, CPU/NB/SB Blocks Hard Drives 4x WD Caviar Black 640GB (2TB+ Total)
MegaRAID SATA 300-8X Controller
2x RiDATA SataII SSD 64GB (Raid10)
1x LG Blu-ray read/write
1x Phillips LightScribe DVD read/write Internet Speed Fractional T1 - Shared Other Info OC'd to 5.0GHz @ 50c under full load |
27 Jun 2009
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#3 | | |
You'll probably get a few varying responses, but I'm in favor of doing a clean install. It is possible to do an upgrade, then do a clean install from the same disk, but you also have more rights as an end user should you buy the full version versus the upgrade. That's enough justification for me to recommend the full version over an upgrade. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 64-bit CPU Intel C2D E8400 Wolfdale Motherboard Asus Maximus Formula Memory Mushkin 2GB DDR2 800 Graphics Card Asus 8800GT Mouse Logitech G7 PSU Cooler Master Real Power Pro RS-650-ACAA-A1 Case Lian-li PC-1010B Hard Drives 2x Seagate Barracuda ES.2 ST3250310NS 250GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA-II |
27 Jun 2009
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ultimate retail // Windows 7 build 7264 x64, Vista Home Premium SP2 x64 Virginia, U.S |

Quote: Originally Posted by AstaLaVista I am sure this has been asked before but I didn't really know how to search for it, here it goes.
I have heard horror stories about upgrading to a new OS from and old one (95 to 98, 98 to Me, Me to XP, etc, etc) and that it is better to buy the full version and start with a clean slate... is there any truth to that? Are the Marketing Nazis behind this myth just to make you spend, yet, more money?
Frankly, I have never purchased any Microsoft OS until SP1 is out due to the bugs and glitches but, after testing the Windows 7 RC, not to its fullest of course, but to the extent of my liking, which by the way, is as far as I am ever going to take it anyways, I am thinking of dumping Vista x64 and just stick to 7.
Sure, there are still things that I can't do with 7 that I used to be able to do with XP easily but I am managing w/o them or trying to be patient with it... of course, that is not here nor there!  You can do a clean install if you buy the upgrade version, as long as you owned vista or xp. And the upgrade disk is cheaper. You boot into vista, run the disk and then run the 7 disk and tell it to do a clean install. Thats how xp to vista was anyway. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-built // Gateway FX P-6860 OS Windows 7 Ultimate retail // Windows 7 build 7264 x64, Vista Home Premium SP2 x64 CPU Intel Core i7 920 // Intel Core2Duo T-5550 1.86x1.86 Motherboard EVGA x58 SLI LE // Memory 12 GB Corsair XMS3 Tri-channel 1333 // 4 GB DDR2 Graphics Card EVGA GTX 295 // Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTS Sound Card Integrated Realtek // RealTek HD integrated sound Monitor(s) Displays 19" Acer flatpanel // Laptop Display, Secondary CRT Screen Resolution 1440 x 900 1152x864 // 1440x900, 1152x864 Keyboard Razer Lycosa // laptop keyboard Mouse Razer DeathAdder // Logitech Laser PSU Corsair HX1000w // Laptop PSU? Case Thermaltake Armor+ Cooling Assload of fans, intel stock cpu cooler // GearHead Fan dock Hard Drives 750 GB WD Caviar Black 7200 RPM - in desktop
320 GB -laptop
80 GB - laptop secondary drive Internet Speed 3.0 MB down/ 768 Kb up Other Info Just built my computer in 12/09 |
27 Jun 2009
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#5 | | 7 Pro Build 7600.16385x64 [2.0 WEI] Los Angeles, CA |
there is a way to use the Upgrade disk to do a clean install, then do an "upgrade" over that clean install and then you can use your key to activate as an upgrade. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number eMachines W3503 OS 7 Pro Build 7600.16385x64 [2.0 WEI] CPU Intel(R) Celeron(R) D CPU 3.33GHz Memory 2.00 GB RAM (1.87 GB usable) Graphics Card ATI Radeon™ X300 based integrated graphics Sound Card 6-channel (5.1) ATI High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays eMachines® 17" LCD Flat Panel Monitor (17F3) Screen Resolution 1024 x 768 @ 85Hz Hard Drives 160GB HDD (7200rpm, 2MB cache) |
27 Jun 2009
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#6 | | Windows 7 Ultimate retail // Windows 7 build 7264 x64, Vista Home Premium SP2 x64 Virginia, U.S |

Quote: Originally Posted by lokiundergod You'll probably get a few varying responses, but I'm in favor of doing a clean install. It is possible to do an upgrade, then do a clean install from the same disk, but you also have more rights as an end user should you buy the full version versus the upgrade. That's enough justification for me to recommend the full version over an upgrade. Arent the EULA's the same for both? how would one have more rights if they bought the full version rather than the upgrade? Im just asking cuz im curious | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-built // Gateway FX P-6860 OS Windows 7 Ultimate retail // Windows 7 build 7264 x64, Vista Home Premium SP2 x64 CPU Intel Core i7 920 // Intel Core2Duo T-5550 1.86x1.86 Motherboard EVGA x58 SLI LE // Memory 12 GB Corsair XMS3 Tri-channel 1333 // 4 GB DDR2 Graphics Card EVGA GTX 295 // Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTS Sound Card Integrated Realtek // RealTek HD integrated sound Monitor(s) Displays 19" Acer flatpanel // Laptop Display, Secondary CRT Screen Resolution 1440 x 900 1152x864 // 1440x900, 1152x864 Keyboard Razer Lycosa // laptop keyboard Mouse Razer DeathAdder // Logitech Laser PSU Corsair HX1000w // Laptop PSU? Case Thermaltake Armor+ Cooling Assload of fans, intel stock cpu cooler // GearHead Fan dock Hard Drives 750 GB WD Caviar Black 7200 RPM - in desktop
320 GB -laptop
80 GB - laptop secondary drive Internet Speed 3.0 MB down/ 768 Kb up Other Info Just built my computer in 12/09 |
27 Jun 2009
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#7 | | 7 Pro Build 7600.16385x64 [2.0 WEI] Los Angeles, CA |

Quote: Originally Posted by grouchpunk08 Arent the EULA's the same for both? how would one have more rights if they bought the full version rather than the upgrade? Im just asking cuz im curious i think the rights are the same, what he meant was the support you get from Microsoft is different if you buy the upgrade. i believe you get none. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number eMachines W3503 OS 7 Pro Build 7600.16385x64 [2.0 WEI] CPU Intel(R) Celeron(R) D CPU 3.33GHz Memory 2.00 GB RAM (1.87 GB usable) Graphics Card ATI Radeon™ X300 based integrated graphics Sound Card 6-channel (5.1) ATI High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays eMachines® 17" LCD Flat Panel Monitor (17F3) Screen Resolution 1024 x 768 @ 85Hz Hard Drives 160GB HDD (7200rpm, 2MB cache) |
27 Jun 2009
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#8 | | Windows 7 Ultimate retail // Windows 7 build 7264 x64, Vista Home Premium SP2 x64 Virginia, U.S |
Here is where Microsoft confirms you will be able to clean install using the upgrade disk on their site where they are doing pre orders at half price - Running Windows Vista?
- If you have Windows Vista, you can purchase Windows 7 Upgrade versions. You can do a clean install (back up your files, clean install, and reinstall your applications) or an in-place upgrade (Windows 7 installs over Windows Vista).
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-built // Gateway FX P-6860 OS Windows 7 Ultimate retail // Windows 7 build 7264 x64, Vista Home Premium SP2 x64 CPU Intel Core i7 920 // Intel Core2Duo T-5550 1.86x1.86 Motherboard EVGA x58 SLI LE // Memory 12 GB Corsair XMS3 Tri-channel 1333 // 4 GB DDR2 Graphics Card EVGA GTX 295 // Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTS Sound Card Integrated Realtek // RealTek HD integrated sound Monitor(s) Displays 19" Acer flatpanel // Laptop Display, Secondary CRT Screen Resolution 1440 x 900 1152x864 // 1440x900, 1152x864 Keyboard Razer Lycosa // laptop keyboard Mouse Razer DeathAdder // Logitech Laser PSU Corsair HX1000w // Laptop PSU? Case Thermaltake Armor+ Cooling Assload of fans, intel stock cpu cooler // GearHead Fan dock Hard Drives 750 GB WD Caviar Black 7200 RPM - in desktop
320 GB -laptop
80 GB - laptop secondary drive Internet Speed 3.0 MB down/ 768 Kb up Other Info Just built my computer in 12/09 |
27 Jun 2009
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#9 | | Windows 7 Ultimate retail // Windows 7 build 7264 x64, Vista Home Premium SP2 x64 Virginia, U.S |

Quote: Originally Posted by andythecurefan i think the rights are the same, what he meant was the support you get from Microsoft is different if you buy the upgrade. i believe you get none. Oh ok, I guess that kinda makes a little bit of sense. Personally I wouldnt call them for support ever anyway. Id just come here for help | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-built // Gateway FX P-6860 OS Windows 7 Ultimate retail // Windows 7 build 7264 x64, Vista Home Premium SP2 x64 CPU Intel Core i7 920 // Intel Core2Duo T-5550 1.86x1.86 Motherboard EVGA x58 SLI LE // Memory 12 GB Corsair XMS3 Tri-channel 1333 // 4 GB DDR2 Graphics Card EVGA GTX 295 // Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTS Sound Card Integrated Realtek // RealTek HD integrated sound Monitor(s) Displays 19" Acer flatpanel // Laptop Display, Secondary CRT Screen Resolution 1440 x 900 1152x864 // 1440x900, 1152x864 Keyboard Razer Lycosa // laptop keyboard Mouse Razer DeathAdder // Logitech Laser PSU Corsair HX1000w // Laptop PSU? Case Thermaltake Armor+ Cooling Assload of fans, intel stock cpu cooler // GearHead Fan dock Hard Drives 750 GB WD Caviar Black 7200 RPM - in desktop
320 GB -laptop
80 GB - laptop secondary drive Internet Speed 3.0 MB down/ 768 Kb up Other Info Just built my computer in 12/09 |
27 Jun 2009
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#10 | | Windows 7 Ultimate retail // Windows 7 build 7264 x64, Vista Home Premium SP2 x64 Virginia, U.S |

Quote: Originally Posted by grouchpunk08 Here is where Microsoft confirms you will be able to clean install using the upgrade disk on their site where they are doing pre orders at half price - Running Windows Vista?
- If you have Windows Vista, you can purchase Windows 7 Upgrade versions. You can do a clean install (back up your files, clean install, and reinstall your applications) or an in-place upgrade (Windows 7 installs over Windows Vista).
Also, if you have XP or win2000 You cant do an inplace upgrade, microsft tells you to backup your stuff and do a clean install from the upgrade disk - Running earlier versions?
- If you have Windows XP or Windows 2000, you can purchase Windows 7 Upgrade versions. But you must back up your files, clean install, and reinstall your applications.
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-built // Gateway FX P-6860 OS Windows 7 Ultimate retail // Windows 7 build 7264 x64, Vista Home Premium SP2 x64 CPU Intel Core i7 920 // Intel Core2Duo T-5550 1.86x1.86 Motherboard EVGA x58 SLI LE // Memory 12 GB Corsair XMS3 Tri-channel 1333 // 4 GB DDR2 Graphics Card EVGA GTX 295 // Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTS Sound Card Integrated Realtek // RealTek HD integrated sound Monitor(s) Displays 19" Acer flatpanel // Laptop Display, Secondary CRT Screen Resolution 1440 x 900 1152x864 // 1440x900, 1152x864 Keyboard Razer Lycosa // laptop keyboard Mouse Razer DeathAdder // Logitech Laser PSU Corsair HX1000w // Laptop PSU? Case Thermaltake Armor+ Cooling Assload of fans, intel stock cpu cooler // GearHead Fan dock Hard Drives 750 GB WD Caviar Black 7200 RPM - in desktop
320 GB -laptop
80 GB - laptop secondary drive Internet Speed 3.0 MB down/ 768 Kb up Other Info Just built my computer in 12/09 Full OS vs an Upgrade... problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:30 PM. | |