| Windows 7: Win7 dualboot AND Win7 update question |
27 Jun 2009
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Win7 dualboot AND Win7 update question Hey, I have two questions:
I am running Windows 7 dualbooted with WinXP, everything works fine. I want to get rid of the XP partition, and keep the Windows 7 one only, but there is a problem. THe partition on which XP is installed is set as system and active. I've googled around but I've found no easy solutions to this. Any ideas on how to do this without reinstalling the OS?
My second question would be about the Windows 7 update: I installed the 7100 build, when it got released, but as I saw now, the latest builds are like 7200+. Are the changes updated on my build somehow, or I would have to reinstall to have the new build?
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27 Jun 2009
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate retail // Windows 7 build 7264 x64, Vista Home Premium SP2 x64 316 posts Virginia, U.S |

Quote: Originally Posted by TheSaw Hey, I have two questions:
I am running Windows 7 dualbooted with WinXP, everything works fine. I want to get rid of the XP partition, and keep the Windows 7 one only, but there is a problem. THe partition on which XP is installed is set as system and active. I've googled around but I've found no easy solutions to this. Any ideas on how to do this without reinstalling the OS?
My second question would be about the Windows 7 update: I installed the 7100 build, when it got released, but as I saw now, the latest builds are like 7200+. Are the changes updated on my build somehow, or I would have to reinstall to have the new build?
Thx. To see the changes in the different builds, you'd need to install those builds. Its not really cruicial, but there a few noticable differences once you get to 7232. It just feels more stable.
And to fix your boot problem, PLEASE HAVE SOMEONE CONFIRM THIS BEFORE DOING IT, I'm pretty sure if boot into windows 7 and you open computer, right click the white space and hit properties to open the 'system' page, then in the left panel click on advanced system settings. A new window will come up. make sure the advanced tab is selected, and hit settings under startup and recovery. There will be a new window with a box that says default operating system. On yours it should say xp. Open the box and choose Windows 7 and that SHOULD fix your problem. please have someone confirm this tho, I dont want to be responsible for making your computer unbootable. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-built // Gateway FX P-6860 OS Windows 7 Ultimate retail // Windows 7 build 7264 x64, Vista Home Premium SP2 x64 CPU Intel Core i7 920 // Intel Core2Duo T-5550 1.86x1.86 Motherboard EVGA x58 SLI LE // Memory 12 GB Corsair XMS3 Tri-channel 1333 // 4 GB DDR2 Graphics Card EVGA GTX 295 // Nvidia GeForce 8800 GTS Sound Card Integrated Realtek // RealTek HD integrated sound Monitor(s) Displays 19" Acer flatpanel // Laptop Display, Secondary CRT Screen Resolution 1440 x 900 1152x864 // 1440x900, 1152x864 Keyboard Razer Lycosa // laptop keyboard Mouse Razer DeathAdder // Logitech Laser PSU Corsair HX1000w // Laptop PSU? Case Thermaltake Armor+ Cooling Assload of fans, intel stock cpu cooler // GearHead Fan dock Hard Drives 750 GB WD Caviar Black 7200 RPM - in desktop
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27 Jun 2009
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| | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 7600 [MSDN] 994 posts Los Angeles |
Personally, I recommend x64 7201. It has proven to be a very stable build. When you install it, simply boot from the DVD and delete the existing XP/7 partions using the 7 installer and allow it to format the drive. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build/Mod OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 7600 [MSDN] CPU Intel QX9650 Extreme 5.0 GHz Motherboard ASUS Rampage Extreme Rev2 Memory 8GB (4x2) Corsair Dominator DDR3 Graphics Card 2x Sapphire Radeon HD4870X2 (QuadFire) Sound Card SupremeFX X-Fi Monitor(s) Displays Dell 2408WFP 24" Panel Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Keyboard Logitech Mouse Logitech PSU Corsair HX1000 Case CoolerMaster - Cosmos S Cooling Custom Liquid - 320mm rad w/ 3x 80mm fans, CPU/NB/SB Blocks Hard Drives 4x WD Caviar Black 640GB (2TB+ Total)
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27 Jun 2009
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| | 7600.20510 x86 5,842 posts |
First, make sure you're set to see all hidden and system files. Then, copy the bootmgr file from the XP partition root to the 7 partition root. Then copy the boot folder from XP root to 7 root, ignoring the warning that you can not copy bcd and bcd.log. Let it skip over those when copying.
Then open an elevated command prompt and type bcdedit /export X:\boot\bcd
where you change X to your 7 partition. So if 7 is D:\ do bcdedit /export D:\boot\bcd
Now set the 7 partition as the active partition in disk management, part of computer management. Reboot, and now you should be able to format or delete the XP partition. Before you do so, you can simply type bcdedit in the elevated command prompt to check on things, if they're correct.
Finally, you can remove XP from the boot menu using free Easybcd software or go to start menu search box and type msconfig.exe and hit enter. Go to the boot tab and remove XP here.
If you want to use a latest build, you must download it from a torrent and either upgrade or clean install. Upgrade will be fine if your system is running fine now.
Post back with any questions or problems and good luck! | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number self built OS 7600.20510 x86 CPU P4 550 3.4 GHz HT running at 3.5 GHz Motherboard MSI PM8M3-V (MS-7211 v1.x) Micro-ATX mainboard Memory OCZ 2 GB(2x1GB) DDR400mHz running @ 414 mHz Graphics Card HIS Radeon HD 3850 IceQ 3 Turbo HDMI Dual DL-DVI AGP Sound Card MOTU Traveler firewire studio interface 192 kHz 24 bit Monitor(s) Displays 22" widescreen Acer X223W LCD, 17" Compaq P75 CRT Screen Resolution 1680x1050 and 1280x1024 Keyboard Logitch Classical Keyboard 200 Mouse Logitech Mediaplay cordless PSU 350W generic Case Cybertronpc, it glows blue Cooling stock cpu fan, Ice-Q 3 gpu and system, many case fans Hard Drives SATA I x2 WD, 400 GB and 120 GB, SATA 2 WD Caviar Black 1 TB Internet Speed 1792/448 kbits/sec Other Info SATA II PCI fake RAID adapter, 1 GB Readyboost, original ATI Remote Wonder (even works with WMC perfectly), Logitech Rumblepad 2 game controller x2 |
27 Jun 2009
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Quote: Originally Posted by grouchpunk08 To see the changes in the different builds, you'd need to install those builds. Its not really cruicial, but there a few noticable differences once you get to 7232. It just feels more stable.
And to fix your boot problem, PLEASE HAVE SOMEONE CONFIRM THIS BEFORE DOING IT, I'm pretty sure if boot into windows 7 and you open computer, right click the white space and hit properties to open the 'system' page, then in the left panel click on advanced system settings. A new window will come up. make sure the advanced tab is selected, and hit settings under startup and recovery. There will be a new window with a box that says default operating system. On yours it should say xp. Open the box and choose Windows 7 and that SHOULD fix your problem. please have someone confirm this tho, I dont want to be responsible for making your computer unbootable. No, I have Windows 7 there are default OS... I don't think it's related, I just had XP installed first, so it somehow remained system partition. 
Quote: Originally Posted by Captain Zero Personally, I recommend x64 7201. It has proven to be a very stable build. When you install it, simply boot from the DVD and delete the existing XP/7 partions using the 7 installer and allow it to format the drive. Well I have everything so nicely installed here, I'm just too lazy to reinstall and reconfigure everything  But if it's worth it, I'll do it and fix my partition problems aswell. | My System Specs | | |
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Quote: Originally Posted by torrentg First, make sure you're set to see all hidden and system files. Then, copy the bootmgr file from the XP partition root to the 7 partition root. Then copy the boot folder from XP root to 7 root, ignoring the warning that you can not copy bcd and bcd.log. Let it skip over those when copying.
Then open an elevated command prompt and type bcdedit /export X:\boot
where you change X to your 7 partition. So if 7 is C:\ do bcdedit /export C:\boot
Now set the 7 partition as the active partition in disk management, part of computer management. Reboot, and now you should be able to format or delete the XP partition. Before you do so, you can simply type bcdedit in the elevated command prompt to check on things, if they're correct.
Finally, you can remove XP from the boot menu using free Easybcd software or go to start menu search box and type msconfig.exe and hit enter. Go to the boot tab and remove XP here.
If you want to use a latest build, you must download it from a torrent and either upgrade or clean install. Upgrade will be fine if your system is running fine now.
Post back with any questions or problems and good luck! I'm going to try the partition thingy now.
About the update, if the system is running fine, would it be different from a clean install?
Thanks for the really prompt answers
LE: If i will delete the XP partition, will I be able to expand and add the free space to the Windows 7 partition?
LE2: After moving the 'boot' folder to Windows 7 root, I get this error: Code: The store export operation has failed.
Cannot create a file when that file already exists.
Last edited by TheSaw; 27 Jun 2009 at 02:30 PM..
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27 Jun 2009
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| | 7600.20510 x86 5,842 posts |
If you upgrade, it will retain all of your installed programs and tweaks.
Yes, you will be able to expand the 7 partition after to include the newly freed space.
Delete the boot folder on 7 and copy again, then do the command. I fixed the command in my last post. It was slightly wrong due to rushing heh. Will be good now.
You're welcome. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number self built OS 7600.20510 x86 CPU P4 550 3.4 GHz HT running at 3.5 GHz Motherboard MSI PM8M3-V (MS-7211 v1.x) Micro-ATX mainboard Memory OCZ 2 GB(2x1GB) DDR400mHz running @ 414 mHz Graphics Card HIS Radeon HD 3850 IceQ 3 Turbo HDMI Dual DL-DVI AGP Sound Card MOTU Traveler firewire studio interface 192 kHz 24 bit Monitor(s) Displays 22" widescreen Acer X223W LCD, 17" Compaq P75 CRT Screen Resolution 1680x1050 and 1280x1024 Keyboard Logitch Classical Keyboard 200 Mouse Logitech Mediaplay cordless PSU 350W generic Case Cybertronpc, it glows blue Cooling stock cpu fan, Ice-Q 3 gpu and system, many case fans Hard Drives SATA I x2 WD, 400 GB and 120 GB, SATA 2 WD Caviar Black 1 TB Internet Speed 1792/448 kbits/sec Other Info SATA II PCI fake RAID adapter, 1 GB Readyboost, original ATI Remote Wonder (even works with WMC perfectly), Logitech Rumblepad 2 game controller x2 |
27 Jun 2009
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| | XPSP3, Se7en RTM 51 posts |

Quote: Originally Posted by TheSaw I am running Windows 7 dualbooted with WinXP, everything works fine. I want to get rid of the XP partition, and keep the Windows 7 one only, but there is a problem. THe partition on which XP is installed is set as system and active. I've googled around but I've found no easy solutions to this. Any ideas on how to do this without reinstalling the OS? All the more reason to have a small dedicated (100mb) active primary partition solely for boot files...
If you do decide to start over, give it some thought. I've setup my system this way for years. It's a big time saver and very convenient. My point is -- should you ever want to install a second or third OS and then get rid of it later on, you wouldn't find yourself stuck in a rut as you are in now. Things will be a lot easier to manage and maintain. | My System Specs | | OS XPSP3, Se7en RTM CPU AMD Athlon XP 2600+ @ 2.30GHz Motherboard GA-7N400S-L; nForce2 Ultra400R Memory Corsair VS 1x1024MB400 + 2x512MB400 DDR Graphics Card nVIDIA GeForce 6600 AGP8X 128-bit, 256mb Sound Card Onboard nVIDIA MCP2-S dolby digital; Realtek ALC655 Screen Resolution 1024x768 Keyboard Standard Mouse PS/2 optical mouse PSU Generic 450W (12V~18A) Cooling CPU stock cooling, 3 case fans Hard Drives 2x80GB ATA-100, 1x200GB ATA-100 Internet Speed 2048/512 |
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Quote: Originally Posted by torrentg If you upgrade, it will retain all of your installed programs and tweaks.
Yes, you will be able to expand the 7 partition after to include the newly freed space.
Delete the boot folder on 7 and copy again, then do the command. I fixed the command in my last post. It was slightly wrong due to rushing heh. Will be good now.
You're welcome.  Okay, it worked now. One more thing to check before I reboot. This Windows 7 partition was the last partition (I have 4, so it was F: ), but it became C: after installing the OS on it. Won't that mix up things? 
Quote: Originally Posted by Mongo All the more reason to have a small dedicated (100mb) active primary partition solely for boot files...
If you do decide to start over, give it some thought. I've setup my system this way for years. It's a big time saver and very convenient. My point is -- should you ever want to install a second or third OS and then get rid of it later on, you wouldn't find yourself stuck in a rut as you are in now. Things will be a lot easier to manage and maintain. I don't usually add or remove OS's, I'm trying to stick to a good and stable one
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27 Jun 2009
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| | 7600.20510 x86 5,842 posts |

Quote: Originally Posted by TheSaw Okay, it worked now. One more thing to check before I reboot. This Windows 7 partition was the last partition (I have 4, so it was F: ), but it became C: after installing the OS on it. Won't that mix up things?
Nah. Should be good to go. Booting does not work by drive letters. It works by partition or drive. As long as the correct boot files (as we did here) are on the partition that is set active, you will boot well. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number self built OS 7600.20510 x86 CPU P4 550 3.4 GHz HT running at 3.5 GHz Motherboard MSI PM8M3-V (MS-7211 v1.x) Micro-ATX mainboard Memory OCZ 2 GB(2x1GB) DDR400mHz running @ 414 mHz Graphics Card HIS Radeon HD 3850 IceQ 3 Turbo HDMI Dual DL-DVI AGP Sound Card MOTU Traveler firewire studio interface 192 kHz 24 bit Monitor(s) Displays 22" widescreen Acer X223W LCD, 17" Compaq P75 CRT Screen Resolution 1680x1050 and 1280x1024 Keyboard Logitch Classical Keyboard 200 Mouse Logitech Mediaplay cordless PSU 350W generic Case Cybertronpc, it glows blue Cooling stock cpu fan, Ice-Q 3 gpu and system, many case fans Hard Drives SATA I x2 WD, 400 GB and 120 GB, SATA 2 WD Caviar Black 1 TB Internet Speed 1792/448 kbits/sec Other Info SATA II PCI fake RAID adapter, 1 GB Readyboost, original ATI Remote Wonder (even works with WMC perfectly), Logitech Rumblepad 2 game controller x2 Win7 dualboot AND Win7 update question problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:33 PM. | |