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Windows 7: Windows 7 Disc Image Burner [Experimentation]


04 Mar 2011   #11

Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 

If your bootable ISO is not corrupted, and your Windows 7 for native burning is not corrupted, I see no reason why and how the burnt CD/DVD can become non-bootable.

If you do want to check the veracity of the above statement, then do as follows.

1. Create a system image with any imaging program of your choice and keep it aside,so that you can restore it later to the present state. (Whenever I make a crucial image, I always restore from that image immediately and check to make sure it is in no way corrupted and fail on me anytime later when I want to use it.)

2. Make a clean install of your Windows 7. Download any small bootable ISO and burn it using the native burner and report whether it is bootable or not.

While trying to boot from the CD/DVD enter the boot menu (by pressing F11 or F12 or any other key as indicated by your motherboard) and select "boot from CD/DVD."

Assuming that everything you do and have is correct is no way to resolve a problem and one has to do a little bit of research on the lines indicated above on his own before putting out any conclusions or blaming something faulty. In the present instance majority of users have no problems burning a bootable CD with Windows native burner.

My post may sound harsh but really nothing like it. I am only putting out my mind having seen all your posts.

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04 Mar 2011   #12
Microsoft MVP

 

Unlike previous Windows the native Image Burner in Windows 7 works fine.

I still tend to veer toward ImgBurn to burn DVD's so I can choose 4x speed, but Windows Image Burner never failed me on bootable CD's and even a few DVD's where I didn't have ImgBurn on the box.

We mostly recommend ImgBurn in the Install forum because of habit, and it never fails.
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05 Mar 2011   #13

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 RTM
 
 

It sounds like you guys know what your talking about. Can someone guide me through the process of making these Windows 7 files into a bootable installation ISO using the native burner? It's for the tutorial I'm creating for slipstreaming SP1 for forum members. Thanks in advance.

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06 Mar 2011   #14
Microsoft MVP

 

This is the easiest method I've come across to compile the installation files into ISO without having to use Vlite:

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
Use this: Attachment 72576

Assuming you have the 7 installation files on your HD , if not, copy and paste them from the dvd that isn't booting onto your HD.

Rt click and run as admin on bootisomaker.cmd.

Browse to the boot.wim in the 7 installation files "sources" folder. When asked, Select 7 bootsector.

It will do the rest.
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06 Mar 2011   #15

Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 

^ +1. Go with gregrocker's post above.

Also have a look at the following tuts.

To create a bootable ISO out of the installation files SIW's tutorial Bootable ISO - Create from Installation Files

To slipstream SP1 into Windows 7, Brink's tutorial Slipstream Windows 7 SP1 into a Installation DVD or ISO File
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06 Mar 2011   #16

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 RTM
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
This is the easiest method I've come across to compile the installation files into ISO without having to use Vlite:

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SIW2 View Post
Use this: Attachment 72576

Assuming you have the 7 installation files on your HD , if not, copy and paste them from the dvd that isn't booting onto your HD.

Rt click and run as admin on bootisomaker.cmd.

Browse to the boot.wim in the 7 installation files "sources" folder. When asked, Select 7 bootsector.

It will do the rest.
Thanks alot, I'll give that a try tomorrow.

*EDIT*
I'm beginning to think nobody has read through this thread. I do NOT want to use 3rd party software to burn the disc [I've had Nero 7 Premium since it first came out]. I need to know how to burn in with the Windows 7 native burner program. <sigh>
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06 Mar 2011   #17

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 RTM
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Ponmayilal View Post
^ +1. Go with gregrocker's post above.

Also have a look at the following tuts.

To create a bootable ISO out of the installation files SIW's tutorial Bootable ISO - Create from Installation Files

To slipstream SP1 into Windows 7, Brink's tutorial Slipstream Windows 7 SP1 into a Installation DVD or ISO File
I already know how to create a bootable installation DVD with 3rd party software. I've been doing it for years. I just didn't know how with using the native burner.

As for the slipstreaming tut, I'm creating my own tut for this forum's members. The whole point was to NOT use vlite. I stated that a number of times in this thread.
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06 Mar 2011   #18

Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit
 
 

You could have stated your problem more clearly and precisely in the first instance that you want to create a bootable ISO file from the Windows installation files using Windows native Image burner. Then we could have given you a clear-cut and emphatic reply "No, it is not possible"

What me and others understood from your first post is that you tried to burn a bootable ISO image using Windows native burner and noted that it did not boot. And you got replies from many " No, we have been using it and it was never a problem." I am not alone.

OK, now here is the answer to your query. My very limited knowledge and undsrstanding capability says it is not possible either to create a bootable ISO file from the installation files or slipstream SP1 into Windows 7 without using any third-party utility and using only Windows native utilities.

And if you have gone through my posts elsewhere, this is exactly the reason why I refuse to slipstream using a third party utility and insist and question why MS is not making available the integrated Windows 7 SP1 ISO for all genuine Windows 7 Users.

While I appreciate your thinking and effort to create such an Integrated Windows 7 SP1 ISO abinitio, I am afraid there is no way to do it without using any third party utility/utilities - not for ordinary folks like me. ( I do not know what MS does to do it. ) Good luck in your endeavour.
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06 Mar 2011   #19

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 RTM
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Ponmayilal View Post
You could have stated your problem more clearly and precisely in the first instance that you want to a bootable ISO file from the Windows installation files using Windows native Image burner.
I don't know how much clearer I could have been, when I said....

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by David Ben Yosef View Post
I've recently started messing around with the Windows 7 Disc Image Burner, because I'm going to write a tutorial on slipstreaming SP1 into a bootable installation DVD.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by David Ben Yosef View Post
I'm thinking maybe I can create a bootable ISO slipstreamed SP1 installation DVD without having to use a third party program at all, like Nero...ISObuster...or ISOMagic...etc.
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06 Mar 2011   #20

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64 RTM
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Ponmayilal View Post
What me and others understood from your first post is that you tried to burn a bootable ISO image using Windows native burner and noted that it did not boot.
That's not what I said at all. I said the exact opposite.....

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by David Ben Yosef View Post
So, before I started looking for a third party DVD burner program, I wanted to see what the native burner program could do. I started off by burning the Windows 7 bootable ISO image I downloaded from TechNet. I was thinking there's no way it will remain bootable by burning it with the native program. WROOOOONG!

However, the bootable ISO I burned with the native Windows 7 burner, needed a little "coaxing" to boot with the BIOS set to "CD" as the first boot device. I had to keep pressing the "enter" button as the BIOS was searching what to boot from. You more advanced users will know exactly what I'm talking about. It also worked with the BIOS set to boot from the HDD as it's first device. It detected bootable media in the DVD drive [again I kept pressing the "enter" button continuously]. It's not uncommon with the old machine I have [my lab machine] to not want to boot from my SATA DVD drive, so I tried an IDE DVD drive, and it booted right up.

I'm thinking maybe I can create a bootable ISO slipstreamed SP1 installation DVD without having to use a third party program at all, like Nero...ISObuster...or ISOMagic...etc. I was also able to extract the files within the ISO image with the native program as well.
Hopefully, the rest of this thread will not be an argument over what I did, and did not say.
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