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Windows 7: How to stop Windows Explorer closing for removable Disks!


06 Mar 2011   #11

win7-64
 
 

I type this from within WinXP myself, and just tried your scenario, it acts as I said earlier, it moved focus down 1, in my case Z: is my dvd drive, and when I eject the DVD, it moved down to control panel. So Autoplay is 'at play' here again. Same for a flash mem reader at B:, moved down 1 to C:.

PS: I obviously have autoplay turned off in WinXP as well!! via tweakui. I ASSume that is why it acts that way and why I want Windows 7 to act the same way.

Sometimes changes are great, but often times changes almost seem arbitrary especially dealing with M$! Many changes in Windows 7 ARE nice IMOH, I am not a luddite, just know how I like some things, Autoplay being VERY annoying to me. "where is that voice control for a pc - Watson in a chip!" That would be change I would completely love!

Whoever redesigned WE behavior did change things, just NOT completely to my liking in this case, whereas copying and deleting files are MUCH better in Windows 7!

So you see a diff behavior in WinXP, and it simply MUST be Autoplay behavior in Windows 7 (original complaint), and the 'lack' of altering its behavior to my setting Autoplay completely 'off' unlike in WinXP which responds to my liking.

So, I must contend with this 'you are not in control, M$ is' behavior which really has increased in Windows 7 (probably Vista but I essentially skipped that one) maybe for the better but maybe not .........

Thanks!


So, once again "Is there a registry setting fix for this, anyone??"


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
I'm on my XP pc at the moment. If I open My Computer and then eject my thumbdrive explorer remains open and the thumbdrives icon disappears. If I navigate to the actual thumbdrive to view the contents and then eject it, explorer closes. Seems to me that that is almost exactly the same way windows 7 does it?


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07 Mar 2011   #12
Microsoft MVP

Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center 64 bit
 
 

OK fair enough, I might have overreacted a bit myself. I have auto run turned off on both of my PC's. There is an update/patch out for XP that turns it off for thumb drives and CD/DVD's. There is also a Microsoft Fixit 50471 that you can run to turn auto run off for all media. It's a little easier than tweakui I think. Tweakui is still a pretty awesome little bit of code though. I'd really like to see a tweakui for windows 7. If there is a reg key for that, and where it might be, I have no Idea. The Customization section of this forum might be a place to look, and maybe start a new thread. Or have a mode move this one there.
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07 Mar 2011   #13

XP / Win7 x64 Pro
 
 

Ok, Windows 7 closes the explorer window instead of taking you back one directory and leaving the window open. Why is double-clicking on my computer again after this too much trouble? Are you just upset because it's changed or because it is an actual hindrance somehow? I can't seem to understand what loss this is causing.

And what does Autoplay have to do with this problem at all, or is that a separate issue? Autoplay has nothing to do with the removal of a drive.
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07 Mar 2011   #14

win7-64
 
 

AUTOPLAY IS absolutely in the middle of this. But only the cognitive know this I suppose!

I will try to make this a little clear for you, if you change AUTOPLAY to completely 'off', one would 'expect' the closing of WE to cease, as 'off' should tell M$ Windows 7 to change behavior, ie do not interfere with my use of WE, do not open or close WE as I am controlling WE myself. 'I' opened that WE, keep away from it, I will close it when I desire!! (ps: even a reboot brings back the same WE windows I had before the shutdown, obviously hibernate does as well - this is how I want and like it)

This is exactly the manner that WE acts in WinXP, and if memory serves Win9x and NT/2000 as well.

So Windows 7 is what has changed, not me or how WE acted in the past OS.

So, this is an actual hindrance, if you have used WE for a period of time, disk/partitions are already open to past folders, so jumping around to often used/view folders is MUCH quicker than opening a new WE and navigating to the desired folder again and again!

Unfortunately too often a used WE is still 'focused' on a removal thing, and if Windows 7's infinite wisdom, closes it when it DID NOT open it in the first place! Understand?

I suppose for the unsophisticated I should state that some of us actually arrange the folders and files ourselves, in a organized and desired manner, with WE and M$ just throwing WE closed or the OS throwing files and shortcuts wherever it desires, & is almost ALWAYS NOT what some one who organizes their files want. I actually organize my menu to MY liking as well, not to M$ or Adobe or anyone else 'assumed' grand idea, understand now?

This is all about control and having your PC (its just a frigging tool you know) acting and being your way NOT M$ or anyone else way, I own this PC I own the OS, it should act the way I want, I know better (for me at least), do what I say!!

It appears that no one knows how to change this behavior, so I am done!

Class dismissed and over!

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by FliGi7 View Post
Ok, Windows 7 closes the explorer window instead of taking you back one directory and leaving the window open. Why is double-clicking on my computer again after this too much trouble? Are you just upset because it's changed or because it is an actual hindrance somehow? I can't seem to understand what loss this is causing.

And what does Autoplay have to do with this problem at all, or is that a separate issue? Autoplay has nothing to do with the removal of a drive.
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07 Mar 2011   #15

XP / Win7 x64 Pro
 
 

To be honest, I have no clue what you're talking about with autorun as you clearly don't understand what it is and does. Autorun has nothing to do with closing an explorer window when the drive is removed. I'm not sure how else to tell you that, nor does anyone else apparently.

Regardless, it is painfully obvious you're projecting your lack of understanding of Windows onto others that are trying to help you. You talk about how you have to open up a WE and navigate to folder time and time again, a problem easily solved by just copying/pasting the address from the toolbar into another window or setting up a shortcut that opens in that particular folder every time. Someone even remotely well-versed in the Windows system as you say you are (or should I say more sophisticated?) would understand how to do that.

But, I do get it now. There are obviously some other issues going on here on a personal level that a Windows forum can't help you with, and you were merely looking for a platform to rant rather than engage in a constructive collaboration. Mission complete. Let us know if you are ever open to receiving Windows Seven help in the future and we'd be more than happy to not waste our time at that point.
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07 Mar 2011   #16
Microsoft MVP

Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
I'm on my XP pc at the moment. If I open My Computer and then eject my thumbdrive explorer remains open and the thumbdrives icon disappears. If I navigate to the actual thumbdrive to view the contents and then eject it, explorer closes. Seems to me that that is almost exactly the same way windows 7 does it?
I just repeated what I did above on my windows 7 PC and got the same results. My windows XP PC doesn't do anything different than my windows 7 PC does in regard to windows explorer and removable media. Maybe windows 98 did it different, but I have yet to see explorer work the way you describe or want? If you don't want explorer to close change the focus to another drive or folder before you remove the media. Only takes on mouse click.
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08 Mar 2011   #17

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by FliGi7 View Post
To be honest, I have no clue what you're talking about with autorun as you clearly don't understand what it is and does. Autorun has nothing to do with closing an explorer window when the drive is removed. I'm not sure how else to tell you that, nor does anyone else apparently.

Regardless, it is painfully obvious you're projecting your lack of understanding of Windows onto others that are trying to help you. You talk about how you have to open up a WE and navigate to folder time and time again, a problem easily solved by just copying/pasting the address from the toolbar into another window or setting up a shortcut that opens in that particular folder every time. Someone even remotely well-versed in the Windows system as you say you are (or should I say more sophisticated?) would understand how to do that.

But, I do get it now. There are obviously some other issues going on here on a personal level that a Windows forum can't help you with, and you were merely looking for a platform to rant rather than engage in a constructive collaboration. Mission complete. Let us know if you are ever open to receiving Windows Seven help in the future and we'd be more than happy to not waste our time at that point.
Well said!
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08 Mar 2011   #18

Windows 7 Ultimate (x64)
 
 

Rants aside, here's what I observe in XP and 7 when I remove a flash drive, or SD card, or eject an optical disk, with or without properly safe removal procedure:

Suppose the removable drive is D: and Windows Explorer is open to some folder on the drive, say D:\foo. Now, remove the drive.

In Windows 7 the Explorer window will close.

In my XP the Explorer window does not close, the main pane still shows the content of D:\foo, while in the navigation pane I see that D: is gone and now E: (or whatever the next drive you've got) is now highlighted (or, if you want, "in focus").

Now, my question is: so what?

Must Windows 7 necessarily follow the XP model? Is that a major issue? I don't think so.

Is there any way to change the Explorer in Windows 7 to make it behave as XP's? I don't think so.

Does it have anything to do with Autorun? I don't think so. In fact, Autorun is completely disabled on both XP and 7 machines that I used to make this little test.

Sorry to repeat the obvious.
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24 Jan 2012   #19

Windows 7 64-bit
 
 

Actually, this is a problem for me. We use multiple barcode scanners on one PC. In Win XP, the removable device's explorer window would remain open when you undock it. When you dock a device again, WE refreshes and you can work with the files as you wish.

In Windows 7, the window closes everytime you remove the device. When you dock it again, Mobile device centre first needs to initialize and after that you select the device to open and navigate to your required folder.
This whole process eats up 10-15 seconds each time. May not sound like much, but doing this 100-150 times per stock count, becomes an issue.
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18 Mar 2012   #20

Windows 7 64Bit
 
 

@IJustWantItToGo;

I feel your pain. You are correct, Explorer in previous versions of windows[pre Vista] behaved differently. FYI; Vista does behave in the same annoying manner, auto-closing an Explorer instance when the drive/folder presence/focus is lost[IE, drive removed or Optical Disc ejected]. I have personally contacted members of the MS developer group and have been told that this is a common complaint, but that the common user is their focus and us "power users" have many alternatives in the way of after-market file managers to chose from[which was stated with a certain level of smugness]. And with MS moving away from a useful file manager with Win8 and "Metro", they are not likely going to give us "power users" much consideration. Sad really...

@mitchell65;

I don't care if you are a senior member or not, IJustWantItToGo has been been very clear in what problem he is having and how it's happening. Reading his posts made it clear to me that he was experienced at the very least. You and others clearly showed that you didn't understand the problem he, me and many like us have been having and why it is a problem. You have been disrespectful and have been less than dignified. Do grow up. If you don't understand a problem feel free to ask for more details, but insulting/belittling someone because YOU lack understanding smacks of teenage like immaturity.

@FliGi7 and unifex;

Again senior members or not; it is very clear from reading your posts that, in fact, YOU two don't seem to understand the problem either nor have offered any real help. IJustWantItToGo was entirely correct about this problem being related to the "autorun" features of windows vista/7 as much[if not all] of that code originates from explorer.exe. Calls/queries the os makes to drive/folder states are always compared against the autorun routines. Since MS removed the checks that determine the owner/originator of the instance of explorer in question, windows acts according to it's coded and non-configurable[I would LOVE to be wrong about that if someone wants to rise to the challenge] default; if device/folder = not present, close explorer instance. And had you known this information, you could have saved yourselves some embarrassment.

@unifex;

Quote; "Now, my question is: so what?"

So what? Seriously? Read on...

Quote; "Must Windows 7 necessarily follow the XP model? Is that a major issue? I don't think so."

The issue here is not whether vista/7 should follow the XP model, but rather whether this specific behavior was needed and whether or not it should be configurable. For us power users, the answer is a very resounding Yes. Why you ask? Example; I preform data recovery/transfer, os reinstalls and various other data preservation and transfer services professionally and like IJustWantItToGo, very often have explorer open with a dozen or more folders/drives open/expanded and in use. For explorer to close while I'm working, forcing me to reopen and renavigate to said folders/drives is extremely cumbersome, time consuming and ultra frustrating. So to that question that answer must be; I DO think so.

@Corne;

Since MS isn't likely to fix this issue, if this "function" in Windows 7 is that much of a problem for your productivity, you may wish to run the idea of a transition back to XP passed your higher-ups.

@everyone;

I have been coming to these forms for tips on how to tweak and config Windows 7 for a long while, but never before have I seen an honest question met with such arrogance, ignorance and lack of maturity. IJustWantItToGo may not be the greatest communicator in the world and may come off a bit harsh and arrogant himself, but that does NOT give any of you license to behave with such contempt. After all, he IS correct. Each of our pc's belong to us, and it is reasonable for each of us to expect that we can make them run/behave the way that fits OUR needs, not MS's way. Isn't that the very premise and purpose of what these forums are all about or did I miss something? Regardless, many of those whom have posted replies here need to kick it up a few notches in the maturity, dignified and respectable civilized behavior departments. You should be ashamed of yourselves.

It really saddens me that my first post on this most excellent website has to be one like this. What is this world coming too?
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