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08 Mar 2011   #1

Windows 7 (Home Premium) x64
 
 
All Simple Volumes

Windows 7 Service Pack 1

I decided I needed a new partition and have done something that I don't quite understand. The computer still boots up fine and everything seems just as it was, operation wise, but something is not like it was before.

I have a 500GB HD and originally had 3 Primary Partitions.

These were the normal C: drive which I had set to a size of about 50 GB and a B: which was larger at about 400GB for movies and music and a smaller 10GB partition for files and documents.

So, I go to create another small 10GB partition in Computer Management, I right click on the large 400GB partition and select shrink. I shrank it by 10GB and created another partition.

Somehow, and I guess all of you can tell, I am no computer genius; I managed to create the extra needed small 10 GB partition but, I changed all the volumes that were primary partitions into simple volumes in one fell swoop.

Is this a bad thing? What are the advantages/disadvantages to this?

I have no primary partitions at all, just simple volumes.
All Simple Volumes-simple-volumes.jpg
Also, all the flash drives are primary partitions. That seems odd to me but, may not be odd at all because I have no idea what I am talking about.

Is it normal for flash drives to be primary partitions?
All Simple Volumes-primary-partition.jpg




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08 Mar 2011   #2
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

Unfortunately you have converted your disk to dynamic. You can only have 4 basic primary partitions. If you want more then need to go to "logicals" after the 3rd primary. Basically this is not a good situation and you should convert your HDD back to a "Basic" disk.
see
Convert a Dynamic Disk to a Basic Disk

Hold off doing anything. There is a procedure to do the conversion but I think one of your 10GB partitions may be a factory recovery partition. Is that correct?
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08 Mar 2011   #3

Windows 7 (Home Premium) x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post
Unfortunately you have converted your disk to dynamic. You can only have 4 basic primary partitions. If you want more then need to go to "logicals" after the 3rd primary. Basically this is not a good situation and you should convert your HDD back to a "Basic" disk.
see
Convert a Dynamic Disk to a Basic Disk

Hold off doing anything. There is a procedure to do the conversion but I think one of your 10GB partitions may be a factory recovery partition. Is that correct?
Thank you, mjf, and thanks for the quick reply also. I will do what you have listed above.

Just out of curiosity, what are the disadvantages to the way I have it now?
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08 Mar 2011   #4

Windows 7 (Home Premium) x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post
Unfortunately you have converted your disk to dynamic. You can only have 4 basic primary partitions. If you want more then need to go to "logicals" after the 3rd primary. Basically this is not a good situation and you should convert your HDD back to a "Basic" disk.
see
Convert a Dynamic Disk to a Basic Disk

Hold off doing anything. There is a procedure to do the conversion but I think one of your 10GB partitions may be a factory recovery partition. Is that correct?
I'm not sure about one being a factory recovery partition. One of the 10GB's is just a partition that I had files and documents on.

The other is the one I just created and it's empty. It is the one that I created when I, evidently, messed things up.
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08 Mar 2011   #5
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

I consider 50 GB for your OS and installed programs partition way too small on a spinning disk. Your OS partition is very lean at the moment so I'll just give the steps to attempt to get you back to where you were before creating the last partition.
You started with 4 not 3 primaries. A, B, C plus system reserved.

(1) All partition operations have risk. You may need to do a clean install or factory restore.
Backup ALL data to an external HDD. Make sure you can do a clean install or a factory restore (ie. you have the appropriate disks).
Don't proceed with the instructions if you cannot do this.
(2) Delete I: making it unallocated. Can use Disk management.
(3) Extend the volume B: to capture back the unallocated space.
(4) Download Partition Wizard v4.2 to do the dynamic to basic disk conversion. The current
free version of PW 5.2 will not do this.
http://cid-24a0e9031e104daf.skydrive...4.2%20free.zip
(5) Start PW 4.2. Select the disk.
Go Disk > Convert Dynamic to Basic Disk
then click the Apply button.

Your disk should now be back to a basic 4 primary partition disk. If any of the partitions are not primary PW4.2 can convert them.
If you want more partitions in the future then B: will need to be made a logical partition.

Finally, A:, and B: are bad letters to pick since they are normally reserved for floppy drives.
It would be better to reassign the letters later on.
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08 Mar 2011   #6
Microsoft MVP

W 7 64-bit Ultimate
 
 

Hello.


If you convert back to a Basic disk, have a look at this tutorial at the link below to see ways to create Extended partition Logical drives if need be and be sure to post back with any further questions you may have and to keep us informed.



Partition / Extended : Logical Drives
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08 Mar 2011   #7

Windows 7 Ultimate x86
 
 

may i ask why you have been only creating primary partitions? primary partitions are for things that need to be made bootable. it doesnt hurt to make them primary partitions, but if you had

1)your system reserve (primary)
2)your boot partition and (primary)
3) a extended patition (extended duh)

inside the extended partition you can make as many logical drives as you like, that way if you decide to add more later you dont need to back up your entire drive re-partition and create new logical drives, then restore the files to your drive.

and depending on how you have your system congifured 50 gigs is plenty of space, however i would move my program directory off the 50 gig partition onto another disc, along with your hiberfile.sys and pagefile.sys.
for starters, that is
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08 Mar 2011   #8
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kool1zero View Post
and depending on how you have your system congifured 50 gigs is plenty of space, however i would move my program directory off the 50 gig partition onto another disc, along with your hiberfile.sys and pagefile.sys.
for starters, that is
I would definitely not do this.
Installed programs are too closely linked to the OS (eg. via the registry). I think it's best to keep them together.
When you're running an SSD you need to keep more of an eye on OS/program partition
space.

CtrlAltDel,
I would focus on getting your disk back to a Basic disk then consider the use of logical partitions. BareFootKid has followed up with a link on how to go about this.
After all of this further advice can be given on how you can relocate your personal folders from the OS partition to another partition.
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09 Mar 2011   #9

Windows 7 (Home Premium) x64
 
 

I wish to thank everyone for helping me sort this out. I took everyone's advice and proceeded slowly. Everything worked out great.

I successfully created several new extended partitions and did away with the dynamic format, I guess you would call it.

Also, I increased the size of C:drive to about 65 Gigs just to be safe.

Thanks again, and here is a .jpg of the results.


Attached Thumbnails
All Simple Volumes-updated.jpg  
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10 Mar 2011   #10

Windows 7 Ultimate x86
 
 

im glad you got your drive back to normal, but if you dont mind my asking, why put soo many logical drives in your extended part?
i mean, its a perfectly fine way to do it, im just interested if there was some particular reasoning to it
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