WIN7 Performance

LenL said:

By the way I got a message yesterday when I went to Performance and Information Tools that I should Rerun the Experience Index as there was a detected HARDWARE CHANGE. OOOPS a bug in WIN7. I have not changed hardware since I installed WIN7. No need to respond to this.

You can get that if you've updated drivers. No physical hardware change is necessary.

Yikes, I'm confused on the networking with Win 7 is a nightmare thing.

I have a bunch of desktops and laptops running Win 7, Vista, and Xp networked together with 2 printers. It seemed pretty easy to get them all talking and sharing with each other. Seems like all you gotta do is make sure all the machines are in the same workgroup, configure file sharing, and install printer drivers and it's a done deal.

Who knows, maybe it's my lapdog love for Microsoft that made it easy. Or maybe it's the fact that my computer buddies always tell me RTFMS.

You say all you had to do was configure file sharing? What specifically did you do? And your computers just all saw each other? Really?

Well all my computers are in the same workgroup. When I turn on my XP Laptop none of my 3 win7 desktops saw it. Nor would they read the folder on the "C" drive I set up to be shared by ALL computers on the Network. Also NONE of my WIN7 systems would SHARE their folders with each other UNLESS I set up Credential Manager. Just setting up folders and drives to be SHARED as I did in WIN XP did not work!

So what you are telling me is that WIN7 has some really big issues as it works differently on each home network. Not consistent.

Anyway. I'm not going to respond to this thread anymore. Too many of you are in love with WIN7. Perhaps that is a good thing for you and Microsoft.

I do realize this forum is NOT connected to MicroSoft and is for WIN7 users.

That being said, would you not think that any company with any interest in their customers would be monitoring this forum to see what their customers are saying good or bad about a product you produce and sell?

If you think not, and you are right than MS is foolish and will in the long run pay. Bussiness management 101 would say this site is being monitored. That's my opinion.

I did not say as good as Photo Shop which I don't use. I use the software that came with my camera and it works well with WIN7 but I would not work with any Linux distro. Obviously if you are really into Photoshop, just I am into MS Access you won't find an exact replacement in LINUX yet. At least for free.

LenL said:

You say all you had to do was configure file sharing? What specifically did you do? And your computers just all saw each other? Really?

Yes, especially if you use proper networking configurations. Then it doesn't matter what OS you are running, even Linux, as they will all talk and communicate the same. I have a home network of 2 towers, 2 laptops, an HTPC, a Windows 2008 R2 Server, a Windows Home Server, a Wii, an Xbox 360, and two iPhones that can all share various information with each other. All non-server computers are running Windows 7. I also have an old Dell tower running Ubuntu 10.10 that participates on this network. I also have a network-enabled all-in-one printer that any computer, even the Linux client, can print from. I do not use the HomeGroup feature of Windows 7...but the point is...if you don't know how to set up networking....HomeGroups will walk you through it easily. I have countless friends and family members who all share files around their house with Windows 7 thanks to the HomeGroup feature. They could never do this with XP unless I set it up for them.

So, once again, in summary, don't confuse your lack of knowledge, understanding, and effort to learn with Microsoft's shortcomings.

PS. Add 4 VMs to my list above of various OSes, that participate on the network when booted.

I was thinking perhaps MS defines hardware as a driver (sofware) change as that was the only possibility. Since their was NO physical hardware change. Personally I would define a hardware driver as a software change and I would have produced a message saying there were driver changes or software changes that would impact performance rating. But I readily admit that I am not an expert.

Or it erroneously detected a hardware change.

DeaconFrost said:

LenL said:

You say all you had to do was configure file sharing? What specifically did you do? And your computers just all saw each other? Really?

Yes, especially if you use proper networking configurations. Then it doesn't matter what OS you are running, even Linux, as they will all talk and communicate the same. I have a home network of 2 towers, 2 laptops, an HTPC, a Windows 2008 R2 Server, a Windows Home Server, a Wii, an Xbox 360, and two iPhones that can all share various information with each other. All non-server computers are running Windows 7. I also have an old Dell tower running Ubuntu 10.10 that participates on this network. I also have a network-enabled all-in-one printer that any computer, even the Linux client, can print from. I do not use the HomeGroup feature of Windows 7...but the point is...if you don't know how to set up networking....HomeGroups will walk you through it easily. I have countless friends and family members who all share files around their house with Windows 7 thanks to the HomeGroup feature. They could never do this with XP unless I set it up for them.

So, once again, in summary, don't confuse your lack of knowledge, understanding, and effort to learn with Microsoft's shortcomings.

PS. Add 4 VMs to my list above of various OSes, that participate on the network when booted.

I have a very simple and basic home network with 3 desktops (WIN7), 2 laptops (WINXP), a printserver with 2 hard drives, router. One workgroup...all computers with the same workgroup name. Worked fine when all computers were WINXP. Loaded WIN7 on the desktops and had them in the same Workgroup. The WIN7 computers would not share anything with each other or the WINXP laptops. FILE SHARING BY ITSELF DID NOT WORK. I had to setup Credential Manager before any file sharing between the WIN7 computers would share with each other, or even read the shared folders on the WIN XP computers.

I'll believe you that you NEVER had to do this with your network. Somehow with my very simple and basic network that worked easily with WIN XP I fell into some black hole where I had to do some extraordinary things that you did not do. And I accept that when this happened to me it was my fault. OK.

So why broadcast your shortcomings with a reckless rant, like a grisly car accident we are forced to keep driving by?

Just ask the questions in Forums and we will gladly provide the answers as we do for everyone else.

Reminds me of the mad hatters' Tea Parties we have going on in the states here.

You mentioned having all PCs in the same workgroup, but are you using the same user accounts on each PC? That's one trick to use, or else you'll need to put in credentials when connecting them. Are file and print sharing enabled on the firewall on all systems? That's a given, but it was also a step that was needed on XP as well.

As gregrocker said, all you need to do is think rationally and ask questions. We get a lot of people coming in here creating a ranting raving thread about how Windows 7 and Microsoft suck...yet in the end, it always boils down to their lack of knowledge or stubborness...and they look foolish as a result. Everyone had questions and needed to learn the ins and outs of Windows 7....but the reason why so many of us love it, is that we have been using it for a while. Many of us use and support it professionally as well (no, not compensated by Microsoft).