| Windows 7: Vista was based on Windows 7 |
04 Jul 2009
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#1 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit God's green Earth |
Vista was based on Windows 7 I'm as guilty as they come in saying that Windows 7 as the general feel of Vista, however it is in fact the other way round. Let me explain...
Windows codename Blackcomb was supposed to succeed Windows XP and Windows Server 2003. A major feature planned for Blackcomb was an advanced storage system called WinFS. Blackcomb was put hold whilst an interim build "Longhorn" was announced for 2003. Longhorn acquired some of the features originally intended for Blackcomb. But after three major viruses; SOBIG, BLASTER & SASSER exploited flaws in Windows operating systems during the same period, Microsoft was forced to put both development of Blackcomb on hold to develop new service packs for Windows XP and Windows Server 2003. Development of Longhorn (Windows Vista) was also "reset", or delayed in August 2004. By this time development of Vista was already behind and to prevent further delays a number of features were cut from Longhorn.
In 2006 codename Blackcomb was renamed Vienna then again in 2007 it was renamed Windows 7 in 2007. In 2008 Windows 7 was adopted as the official name for the operating system.
In all irony a number of capabilities and certain programs that made up Windows Vista have been changed or removed in Windows Seven taking away some of it's functionality. Such notable features include the classic 'Start Menu' UI, 'Windows Ultimate Extras' (altho a patch exists to enable 'Dreamscenes'), 'Inkball' and 'Windows Calendars'. Another three applications that were bundled in Windows Vista; 'Windows Photogallery', 'Windows Movie Maker' and 'Windows Mail' are not included in Windows Seven, instead these are available for free as part of 'Windows Live Essentials' which also includes amongst other things 'Windows Live Messenger'. | My System Specs |
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04 Jul 2009
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#2 | | Windows 7 RTM New Jersey, United States |
This is common logic. Everybody (by now) knows that Vista was just a rushed, early version of Windows 7, released just to make a little cash. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Studio 540 OS Windows 7 RTM CPU Intel Q660 Quad-Core CPU (2.40GHz) Memory 4GB Dual Channel DDR2 SDRAM (800MHz) Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 4850 (512MB) Monitor(s) Displays 20'' Dell E207WFP Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard Dell Multimedia Keyboard Mouse Dell Premium Optical USB Mouse PSU 400 Watt DC Power Supply Case H: 14.2 inches | W: 6.7 inches | D: 17.1 inches Hard Drives 500GB Serial ATA Hard Drive (7200RPM)
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04 Jul 2009
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Quote: Originally Posted by Cam This is common logic. Everybody (by now) knows that Vista was just a rushed, early version of Windows 7, released just to make a little cash. Yeah... coz' vista can't be anything else than that. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion dv5 Notebook PC OS W7 Build 7264 x64 CPU Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5800 @ 2.00GHz Memory 4.00 GB Graphics Card Integrated Intel Sound Card Onboard IDT |
05 Jul 2009
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Quote: Originally Posted by matt0978 I'm as guilty as they come in saying that Windows 7 as the general feel of Vista, however it is in fact the other way round. Let me explain...
Windows codename Blackcomb was supposed to succeed Windows XP and Windows Server 2003. A major feature planned for Blackcomb was an advanced storage system called WinFS. Blackcomb was put hold whilst an interim build "Longhorn" was announced for 2003. Longhorn acquired some of the features originally intended for Blackcomb. But after three major viruses; SOBIG, BLASTER & SASSER exploited flaws in Windows operating systems during the same period, Microsoft was forced to put both development of Blackcomb on hold to develop new service packs for Windows XP and Windows Server 2003. Development of Longhorn (Windows Vista) was also "reset", or delayed in August 2004. By this time development of Vista was already behind and to prevent further delays a number of features were cut from Longhorn.
In 2006 codename Blackcomb was renamed Vienna then again in 2007 it was renamed Windows 7 in 2007. In 2008 Windows 7 was adopted as the official name for the operating system.
In all irony a number of capabilities and certain programs that made up Windows Vista have been changed or removed in Windows Seven taking away some of it's functionality. Such notable features include the classic 'Start Menu' UI, 'Windows Ultimate Extras' (altho a patch exists to enable 'Dreamscenes'), 'Inkball' and 'Windows Calendars'. Another three applications that were bundled in Windows Vista; 'Windows Photogallery', 'Windows Movie Maker' and 'Windows Mail' are not included in Windows Seven, instead these are available for free as part of 'Windows Live Essentials' which also includes amongst other things 'Windows Live Messenger'.
How can you claim that Vista is based on Windows 7, when Vista was released close to 3 years earlier than Seven?
Anyway, I find it highly ironic that to this very day people claim that Vista was rushed, when in fact it was released 6 years after XP. Allow ME to explain: - Whistler became XP, followed by Longhorn which is Vista, then Blackcomb which is Seven.
- The development of both Longhorn AND Blackcomb was delayed, allowing developers to be pulled off both projects in order to concentrate on getting XP SP 2 completed (because of the viruses you mention)
- It was the development of XP SP2 that prompted Microsoft to "reset" the development of Longhorn, which at the time was still based primarily on XP, which would have meant all the security holes would have carried over. Or have you forgotten that XP is still the most virus prone Windows ever?
- To a certain degree, you can thank anti-trust regulators for the exclusion of programs like Windows Photo Gallery, Windows Movie Maker, Windows Mail and the like. Also, people complaining about bloat are to blame for this. I guess that Microsoft fealt it would minimise bloat by removing them when people would be using Windows Live Essentials anyway. Why would they need both "Windows Photo Gallery" AND "Windows Live Photo Gallery" installed at the same time? Or "Windows Mail" and "Windows Live Mail"? Windows Calendar was never any good anyway.
To highlight and summarise the chronologie of Windows: NT, 2000, XP, Vista, Seven.
Vista and Seven was delayed because of XP... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU AMD Phenom 9600 Quad Core Motherboard ASUS MB-M3A32-MVP Deluxe/WiFi Memory 2 x A-Data 2GB DDR2-800 Graphics Card ASUS ATI Radeon HD 2400PRO Sound Card C-Media 7.1 Surround Monitor(s) Displays Sahara 19" Screen Resolution 1600x1200 Keyboard Mercury Mouse Logitech PSU 800W Case Thermaltake Tai-Chi Cooling Tai-Chi Water Cooler Hard Drives 1 x 80GB Seagate (IDE)
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05 Jul 2009
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit God's green Earth |

Quote: Originally Posted by Dzomlija How can you claim that Vista is based on Windows 7, when Vista was released close to 3 years earlier than Seven?
Anyway, I find it highly ironic that to this very day people claim that Vista was rushed, when in fact it was released 6 years after XP. Allow ME to explain: - Whistler became XP, followed by Longhorn which is Vista, then Blackcomb which is Seven.
- The development of both Longhorn AND Blackcomb was delayed, allowing developers to be pulled off both projects in order to concentrate on getting XP SP 2 completed (because of the viruses you mention)
- It was the development of XP SP2 that prompted Microsoft to "reset" the development of Longhorn, which at the time was still based primarily on XP, which would have meant all the security holes would have carried over. Or have you forgotten that XP is still the most virus prone Windows ever?
- To a certain degree, you can thank anti-trust regulators for the exclusion of programs like Windows Photo Gallery, Windows Movie Maker, Windows Mail and the like. Also, people complaining about bloat are to blame for this. I guess that Microsoft fealt it would minimise bloat by removing them when people would be using Windows Live Essentials anyway. Why would they need both "Windows Photo Gallery" AND "Windows Live Photo Gallery" installed at the same time? Or "Windows Mail" and "Windows Live Mail"? Windows Calendar was never any good anyway.
To highlight and summarise the chronologie of Windows: NT, 2000, XP, Vista, Seven.
Vista and Seven was delayed because of XP... because development on Blackcomb was started first, the developers were then pulled off Blackcomb to develop Longhorn, then yes both projects were put on hold to rebuild XP. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit CPU AMD Athlon x4 650 3Ghz Motherboard ASUS Memory 4gb Graphics Card ATI Radeon 3000 series Onboard |
21 Jul 2009
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Quote: Originally Posted by Dzomlija To highlight and summarise the chronologie of Windows: NT, 2000, XP, Vista, Seven. How could you forget the bestest OS ever... 3.1!? | My System Specs | | |
21 Jul 2009
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#7 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 - Mac OS X 10.6.4 x64 North Carolina, United States of America |

Quote: Originally Posted by Dzomlija How can you claim that Vista is based on Windows 7, when Vista was released close to 3 years earlier than Seven?
Anyway, I find it highly ironic that to this very day people claim that Vista was rushed, when in fact it was released 6 years after XP. Allow ME to explain: - Whistler became XP, followed by Longhorn which is Vista, then Blackcomb which is Seven.
- The development of both Longhorn AND Blackcomb was delayed, allowing developers to be pulled off both projects in order to concentrate on getting XP SP 2 completed (because of the viruses you mention)
- It was the development of XP SP2 that prompted Microsoft to "reset" the development of Longhorn, which at the time was still based primarily on XP, which would have meant all the security holes would have carried over. Or have you forgotten that XP is still the most virus prone Windows ever?
- To a certain degree, you can thank anti-trust regulators for the exclusion of programs like Windows Photo Gallery, Windows Movie Maker, Windows Mail and the like. Also, people complaining about bloat are to blame for this. I guess that Microsoft fealt it would minimise bloat by removing them when people would be using Windows Live Essentials anyway. Why would they need both "Windows Photo Gallery" AND "Windows Live Photo Gallery" installed at the same time? Or "Windows Mail" and "Windows Live Mail"? Windows Calendar was never any good anyway.
To highlight and summarise the chronologie of Windows: NT, 2000, XP, Vista, Seven.
Vista and Seven was delayed because of XP... I agree with both of you fellows....7's core is a highly optimized version of vista's...where as Windows 2000 would have been an optimized version of Windows Me if they didn't have a different type of kernel. This is a really petty issue to argue about...I am quite thankful that the longhorn/blackcomb projects were delayed; it took them a while but finally they came around with something that really puts Vista, XP, and all their others from the past in shame. I hope their level of quality continues onwards to Windows 8. It better because I am hard pressed to use anything but Windows 7 now. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Compal JFT02 (Custom Build Laptop) OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 - Mac OS X 10.6.4 x64 CPU Intel Core 2 Duo T9300 2.5 GHz Motherboard JFT02 Memory 4GB Kingston DDR2-800 Graphics Card NVIDIA Geforce 8600M GT (512MB Model) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays WUXGA Standard Laptop Display Screen Resolution 1680*1050 Keyboard Standard Laptop 105 Key-Keyboard Mouse Synaptics Touchpad PSU Standard Laptop Power Supply Case Standard Laptop Case Cooling Standard Laptop Cooling Hard Drives Toshiba 320GB 5400RPM Laptop HD Internet Speed Verizion Online DSL 3360/864 kbs (dl/up) |
21 Jul 2009
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Same product, polished UI.
It is the best microsoft product so far, but unfortunately too late.
It marks the end of windows dominance as a business OS. | My System Specs | | |
21 Jul 2009
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#9 | | Windows Vista, Server 2008, Leopard, Suse |

Quote: Originally Posted by kmook How could you forget the bestest OS ever... 3.1!? LOL, different family. (presuming you are referring to Windows 3.1).
Of course in the NT family, indeed there was NT 3.1, NT3.5 and NT4.0 | My System Specs | | OS Windows Vista, Server 2008, Leopard, Suse |
21 Jul 2009
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Quote: Originally Posted by mez4junk Same product, polished UI.
It is the best microsoft product so far, but unfortunately too late.
It marks the end of windows dominance as a business OS. May I ask what you propose the new business OS is? I think that the fact that Windows has almost 90% of the market share is still pretty dominating, and that is worldwide. Even higher in business...
With 7, I assume it will bounce back and Mac may be back under 5%, seeing that they are only at 8 now. "Other" will make up the other 5. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Built Myself OS Windows 7 7600.16384 x64 CPU Intel Core i7 OC'd to 3.20 GHz Motherboard Gigabyte Memory 6GB GSkillz Triple Channel DDR3 OC'd to 1600 MHz Graphics Card Nvidia GTX 280 Sound Card X-Fi Platinum Monitor(s) Displays Dual 2001FWP Screen Resolution 1680x1050 x 2 Keyboard Saitek Mouse logitech MX 10000 PSU Gigawatt Antec Case Antec 900 Hard Drives System - Dual 150GB Raptors Raid0
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