| Windows 7: An old fart needs help to keep up with grandson. |
28 Mar 2011
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#1 | | windows 7 ultimate 32 bit |
An old fart needs help to keep up with grandson. I am far from being computer savy but I need help to get my grandchild off my back.
He as a big fan of games and I hate them, but he has been complaining that the games are very jumpy and he has asked me to get a bigger memory? Known very little about this form of computing I'm not sure whither he means a larger graphic card - more memory or both?
If I attache a Beleric Advisor could someone tell me the best way to upgade the computer which will enable my grandson and myself to be happy whit our own projects ** Removed file since it contained your key numbers **
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| My System Specs |
| OS windows 7 ultimate 32 bit |
28 Mar 2011
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#2 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit Colne, Lancashire, UK |
We're quite a majority of old farts on here so a very warm welcome to the forum 
Most members post their system specs in their user cp (see at top of the page) then they display in My System Specs (bottom right in the post box)
Can't say I've ever seen a Belarc Advisor before. Quite complicated. Seems you have plenty of hard drive space for some games and you have 2gb of RAM memory, am I right?
Can't see a graphics card in there. Have I missed it?
Your Grandson probably means both more RAM and a graphics card (or a better one).
The card would be the priority I'd have thought although 4gb of RAM rather than 2 would also speed up the frame rate in games.
Cheers, John. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number The Monolith. 3.1 OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit CPU i7 2700K@4.5GHz Motherboard Gigabyte Z77-D3H Memory 2x4GB Corsair Vegeance DDR3 Graphics Card XFX GTX 260 Black Edition Sound Card none-through large stereo hi fi Monitor(s) Displays Croosover 27MDP LED IPS Dell 2408 WFP Screen Resolution 2560x1440 1920x1200 Keyboard Enermax Aurora Mouse Logitech Ballmouse PSU Corsair AX 850 Watt Case Cooler Master ACTS 840 Cooling Be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro Hard Drives 1x Samsung 840Pro 128GB SSD
1x Samsung Spinpoint F1 1TB Internet Speed 20MBPS |
28 Mar 2011
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#3 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |
You have "only" 2 GB of RAM. Windows might be a little snappier on 4 gigs and your motherboard will certainly accommodate another 2 GB---you have 2 empty RAM slots.
But improving the video card would likely make a more noticeable improvement in gaming performance. It's a Dell Inspiron 530. Looking at the Belarc report, it appears to have graphics integrated on the motherboard, rather than a separate card.
You need someone to confirm that the Dell in fact has integrated graphics and that it has a spare slot that can accept a separate video card. Then shop for a compatible video card. I'd try that first and if your grandson is still unhappy, try upgrading the RAM to 4 GB total.
If money is no particular concern, do both at the same time. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load |
28 Mar 2011
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#4 | | Windows Home Premium 64bit St. Thomas, Ontario |
Hi DG8. Please check your private messages now.
Regards
JohnnyA
Edit: Disregard, someone beat me to it. RE: Belarc | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba C650 OS Windows Home Premium 64bit CPU T61-- 2.0ghz Motherboard Toshiba Memory 4 GB Graphics Card On board Sound Card On board Monitor(s) Displays 15.6" Hard Drives 500 GB |
28 Mar 2011
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#5 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit Colne, Lancashire, UK |
Ah. I see one of the moderators have removed it as it contained your serial number. Don't worry, it was only there a minute and I never noticed it amongst everything else. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number The Monolith. 3.1 OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit CPU i7 2700K@4.5GHz Motherboard Gigabyte Z77-D3H Memory 2x4GB Corsair Vegeance DDR3 Graphics Card XFX GTX 260 Black Edition Sound Card none-through large stereo hi fi Monitor(s) Displays Croosover 27MDP LED IPS Dell 2408 WFP Screen Resolution 2560x1440 1920x1200 Keyboard Enermax Aurora Mouse Logitech Ballmouse PSU Corsair AX 850 Watt Case Cooler Master ACTS 840 Cooling Be Quiet! Dark Rock Pro Hard Drives 1x Samsung 840Pro 128GB SSD
1x Samsung Spinpoint F1 1TB Internet Speed 20MBPS |
28 Mar 2011
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#6 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |
I just downloaded a user manual for a Dell Inspiron 530.
It says you have Intel integrated video, as suspected.
And it says you have 4 slots:
2 PCI
1 PCI Express x1
1 PCI Express x16
So, it certainly appears you can upgrade to a separate video card easily. Anything compatible should be an improvement, even at the $50 range. Intel integrated video wasn't too good 3 years ago when your PC was designed. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load |
28 Mar 2011
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#7 | | Win 7 Ult + Starter, XP Pro +Home, 2kAS, Linux Mint 8, SuperOS |
The Dell specs for this PC is here: Dell Inspiron 530 Desktop PC Product Details | Dell UK
Assuming 32-bit Windows 7, the maximum addressable ram is 3GB, the further 1GB in an upgrade will only be utilized if the Windows 7 OS is upgraded to 64-Bit. (this may mean that some installed software and hardware may not work properly)
From the current Core 2 Duo installed, the processor could be maximally upgraded to a Intel® CoreTM 2 Quad-Core Q9450 Processor (2.66GHz, 12MB cache, 1333MHz FSB), and there are possibly even faster compatible processors, I didn't look further.
The Graphics card upgrade has been mentioned in another post above.
Last edited by fafhrd; 28 Mar 2011 at 06:22 PM..
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| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Acer 7520, Packard Bell dot se, Acer travelmate 2423 OS Win 7 Ult + Starter, XP Pro +Home, 2kAS, Linux Mint 8, SuperOS CPU AMD 64 Athlon X2 , Intel Atom N450, Intel Celeron M 1.50 Ghz Motherboard Acer Fuquene Memory 2.5GB ; 1GB; 2GB Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce7000m; Intel; Intel Sound Card Realtek AC57 Monitor(s) Displays 17" ;10.1"; 19" Screen Resolution 1440x900;1024x600;1440x900; PSU 19v Case Laptop Cooling Air Hard Drives WD 80, WD 320; Internet Speed 9.7Mb/s down 0.99Mb/s up Other Info ISP VIRGINMEDIA 10M cable broadband - D-Link DIR615 wireless router, 3Com OfficeConnect ASDL router used as wireless extender switch |
28 Mar 2011
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#8 | | Windows 8 X64 M3 8102 / Windows 7 Ultimate X64 Darwin, Australia |

Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic You have "only" 2 GB of RAM. Windows might be a little snappier on 4 gigs and your motherboard will certainly accommodate another 2 GB---you have 2 empty RAM slots.
But improving the video card would likely make a more noticeable improvement in gaming performance. It's a Dell Inspiron 530. Looking at the Belarc report, it appears to have graphics integrated on the motherboard, rather than a separate card.
You need someone to confirm that the Dell in fact has integrated graphics and that it has a spare slot that can accept a separate video card. Then shop for a compatible video card. I'd try that first and if your grandson is still unhappy, try upgrading the RAM to 4 GB total.
If money is no particular concern, do both at the same time.
I Agree more ram and a mid range GPU will make the PC fly!!
a good bang for buck GPU i use on the pcs i havd built for friends i have eather put one of these cards in it
Radeon 5770
Radeon 6850
Radeon 6870
Radeon 6970
Geforce GT440
Geforce GTS450
Geforce GTX570
Geforce GTX560Ti
Ranging from $150 - $500 MID to High end cards
Extreme cards are around $ 700 - $1000
For an Idea
Geforce GTX580
Geforce GTX590
Radeon 6990
Radeon 5870
i have a 3rd pc for gaming when friend come over basicly same specs
Q6600 with a G41 with 16x PCIe and 1x PCIe so i got a radeon 6870 for video and a Physics card a Geforce 9600GT PCIe 1x 512MB | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number build it myself OS Windows 8 X64 M3 8102 / Windows 7 Ultimate X64 CPU Core i7 2600K @3.7ghz Motherboard GA-Z68XP-UD3R Memory 32GB DDR-3 1866mhz Graphics Card AMD Radeon 6990 + Geforce GTX560 Sound Card SB Xfi Fatality Monitor(s) Displays 4x 23" + 30" Dell Screen Resolution 4x 1920x1080 + Main 2560x1600 Dell Keyboard Optimus Maximus replaced G19 Mouse Saitek Cyborg R.A.T. 7 Replaced Sidewinder X5 PSU Antec 1300W HC Case HAF X (USB3) Cooling Swiftech H20-320 Edge Liquid Cooling Kit Hard Drives 2x OCZ Agility 3 120gb SATA3
1x Kingston 120gb SATA3
1x Corsair 120gb SATA3
1x Intel 512gb SATA3 (STEAM)
5x 3TB SATA 3 WD Black (Storage) Internet Speed Internode 1TB Cap ADSL2+ (NBN Optic) |
29 Mar 2011
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#9 | | windows 7 ultimate 32 bit |
May I thank everyone who replied to my problems. I will need to keep the replies and take my time to try to digest the information provided (I'm a slow learner)
I appreciate the effort you have put in to try and help me.
Blessings to you all. | My System Specs | | OS windows 7 ultimate 32 bit |
29 Mar 2011
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#10 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |
According to Crucial.com's highly reliable configurator, a Dell Inspiron 530 has these RAM requirements:
4 GB maximum overall
1 GB maximum per slot (you have 4 slots)
Each memory slot can hold a 240-pin DIMM of DDR2 PC2-5300 (aka DDR2-667) or DDR2 PC2-6400 (aka DDR2-800) non-ECC RAM, preferably rated at 1.8 volts.
Dual channel is supported--this means you should think in terms of buying 2 more sticks rather than 1--presumably 2 sticks of 1 gig each, giving you a total of 4 GB of RAM overall.
1 GB sticks sell for about $20 in the USA. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load An old fart needs help to keep up with grandson. problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:22 PM. | |