| Windows 7: Legality of buying licenses from student MSDN accounts for resale |
15 Apr 2011
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#1 | | Windows 7 Pro 64-bit Binghamton, NY |
Legality of buying licenses from student MSDN accounts for resale Binghamton University offers some students access to free software. I had an idea to purchase licenses that aren't being used by students to install on various desktops for resale.
I want to know if this is legal. I don't want to run into issues when trying to start up my business. | My System Specs |
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15 Apr 2011
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This is absolutely not legal. You are not licensed to do that. | My System Specs | | OS XP / Win7 x64 Pro CPU Intel Quad-Core Q9450 @ 3.2GHz Motherboard Asus P5-E Memory 2x2GB GSkill DDR2 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTS (EVGA) Monitor(s) Displays Dell 2408WFP Screen Resolution 1920x1200 |
15 Apr 2011
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Philadelphia, PA |
I'm surprised a person would ask if it is legal to buy cheap licenses intended for students, and only students who are associated with that particular university, and resale them.
That being said, if you built a computer for a fellow student, and sold them a copy of Windows to go with it for the same cost, you might possibly be okay...but I wouldn't even bother to be honest. It should be blatantly obvious what those licenses are for, and why they are so cheap. Your school should also only be allowing one license per student anyway. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i7-2600 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3P-B3 Memory 12 GB Patriot Extreme DDR3-1333 Graphics Card Nvidia GTX 470 Monitor(s) Displays Dell UltraSharp 2209WA PSU OCZ ModStream 700W Case CoolerMaster HAF 912 Advanced Cooling CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus Hard Drives OCZ Agility3 240 GB, WD5001AALS, WD7501AALS |
15 Apr 2011
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#4 | | Windows 7 Pro 64-bit Binghamton, NY |

Quote: Originally Posted by FliGi7 This is absolutely not legal. You are not licensed to do that. 
Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost I'm surprised a person would ask if it is legal to buy cheap licenses intended for students, and only students who are associated with that particular university, and resale them.
That being said, if you built a computer for a fellow student, and sold them a copy of Windows to go with it for the same cost, you might possibly be okay...but I wouldn't even bother to be honest. It should be blatantly obvious what those licenses are for, and why they are so cheap. Your school should also only be allowing one license per student anyway. Well, they offer both an English version, and Chinese version. Both of which work for any Windows 7 Pro and are different keys. So 2 per person really.
I didn't know. I had my doubts. That's why I asked. Can't it be said that once the student downloads that software, as part of the tuition, he OWNS that software, and then can do anything he wants with that software?? It is a retail version, not a student version (If they even make one)
I don't see how this is BLATANTLY OBVIOUS | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom / Myself / One OS Windows 7 Pro 64-bit CPU AMD Phenom II x4 955 @ 3.62 GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA770T-UD3P Memory 4 GB G.Skill DDR3 1600 Graphics Card Nvidia GTX 460 825 MHz (gpu) 4400 MHz (Vram) Sound Card Nvidia GTX 460 Monitor(s) Displays VIZIO 32" 1080p LCD (60 Hz) Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard i-rocks back lit wired Mouse Logitech VX Revolution Case Antec 300 Cooling Corsair H50 Hard Drives 500 GB WD Caviar Black (System)
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15 Apr 2011
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Philadelphia, PA |
You don't ever own software. You license it, meaning you agree to follow the rules or you don't use it. The software is discounted because of you being a student. That's the blatantly obvious part...that selling it to a non-student violates the terms of licensing. You should have plenty of documentation to clearly outline that from your school.
In another thread, you mention being a start up system builder. Licensing would have been one of the first things you would have considered in your business plan. You should be looking into registering as a system builder with Microsoft, and then purchasing system builder licenses for use on the systems you will be selling. If you want to stay in business...you need to be legit. One phone call from a client who finds out their license isn't legit to Microsoft...and you'll be closing up shop. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i7-2600 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3P-B3 Memory 12 GB Patriot Extreme DDR3-1333 Graphics Card Nvidia GTX 470 Monitor(s) Displays Dell UltraSharp 2209WA PSU OCZ ModStream 700W Case CoolerMaster HAF 912 Advanced Cooling CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus Hard Drives OCZ Agility3 240 GB, WD5001AALS, WD7501AALS |
15 Apr 2011
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#6 | | W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE Indian Territory |
I don't know if MS makes a student version of Windows 7 or not, but they certainly have for previous versions. You say that it is a retail version, are you positive about that, have you thoroughly read the EULA? If it actually is a true retail version, then yes, you could sell it to a non-student, however that seems highly unlikely. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number DIY OS W7x64 Pro, SuSe 12.1/** W7 x64 Pro, XP MCE CPU Phenom II 1090T w/Noctua NH-D14 /**4400+ X2 w/CM Hyper TX 3 Motherboard ASRock 890FX Deluxe 4/**A8N-SLI Memory 2 x 2GB Patriot PGS34g1600LLKA/**4x1GB Corsair VS Graphics Card EVGA GTX460 SC/**EVGA 8800GTS Sound Card Asus Xonar D2X/**Xonar D1 Monitor(s) Displays Acer X233H, Dell E152FPc /**LG M237-WD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 & 1024x768/**1980x1080 Keyboard Logitech Media USB/**Saitek Eclipse Mouse Cordless Trackman Wheel/**Ditto PSU CM RS600 w/ APC BX1000G/**Antec 500 TP w/ APC BX1000 Case HAF922/**Antec 1040IIB Cooling 3x200mm, 1x140 and 1x120mm/**5x80mm fans Hard Drives WDC 2TB, 1.5TB, 1TB, 500GB,Seagate 500GB , Maxtor 80GB /**500GB Seagate & WDC 1TB Black Internet Speed 3.3Mbps Other Info SB 560 5.1 w/ Sennheiser RS140/**Creative T20 speakers, Dvico FusionHDTV7 Gold RT, Cisco E3000, HP 5510V AIO, Linksys E3000, Belkin F5U237 hub and **F5D8055 adapter
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15 Apr 2011
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#7 | | Windows 7 Pro 64-bit Binghamton, NY |

Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost In another thread, you mention being a start up system builder. Licensing would have been one of the first things you would have considered in your business plan. You should be looking into registering as a system builder with Microsoft, and then purchasing system builder licenses for use on the systems you will be selling. If you want to stay in business...you need to be legit. One phone call from a client who finds out their license isn't legit to Microsoft...and you'll be closing up shop. Yes, I am. It's part of the plan. I am using system builder software, but I was told all you are obligated to do is install and use the key on a system being sold. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom / Myself / One OS Windows 7 Pro 64-bit CPU AMD Phenom II x4 955 @ 3.62 GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA770T-UD3P Memory 4 GB G.Skill DDR3 1600 Graphics Card Nvidia GTX 460 825 MHz (gpu) 4400 MHz (Vram) Sound Card Nvidia GTX 460 Monitor(s) Displays VIZIO 32" 1080p LCD (60 Hz) Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard i-rocks back lit wired Mouse Logitech VX Revolution Case Antec 300 Cooling Corsair H50 Hard Drives 500 GB WD Caviar Black (System)
1 TB WD Caviar Green - saved from an external that had an unfortunate shelf incident Other Info Monoprice 22 AWG High Speed / Shielded HDMI 1.4 for audio / video to TV to Stereo
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15 Apr 2011
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Quote: Originally Posted by turtlebain
I didn't know. I had my doubts. That's why I asked. Can't it be said that once the student downloads that software, as part of the tuition, he OWNS that software, and then can do anything he wants with that software?? It is a retail version, not a student version (If they even make one)
I don't see how this is BLATANTLY OBVIOUS Well, I will say it is much better that you asked than just assumed. Unfortunately, you're seeing it's not that straight forward. If you're going to be doing this as a business, I'd take the advice given and acquire a system builder's license. | My System Specs | | OS XP / Win7 x64 Pro CPU Intel Quad-Core Q9450 @ 3.2GHz Motherboard Asus P5-E Memory 2x2GB GSkill DDR2 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTS (EVGA) Monitor(s) Displays Dell 2408WFP Screen Resolution 1920x1200 |
15 Apr 2011
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#9 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit SP1 |
You may be interested in reading this Licensing FAQ | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Bruce ... somewhere in his 40's OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit SP1 CPU Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU @ 2.40GHz, 2400 MHz Motherboard INTEL/D975XBX2 Memory 4 GB Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 2600 Pro Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 914v Screen Resolution 1280 x 1024 Keyboard Standard PS/2 Keyboard Mouse Microsoft PS/2 Mouse PSU Rocketfish 700 W Case G.Skill Gigabyte Chassis Hard Drives 2/500GB each ... ST3500630AS ATA Device.
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15 Apr 2011
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#10 | | Win 7 Ult + Starter, XP Pro +Home, 2kAS, Linux Mint 8, SuperOS |
Think of Microsoft as a big drug-dealing franchise. The idea behind student licenses is to hook the kids into using their products by offering them cheaply at the school gates.
If they find that some small time operator like you is buying the kiddie packs then selling them at full price on the street - they will send the big boys around to break your legs. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Acer 7520, Packard Bell dot se, Acer travelmate 2423 OS Win 7 Ult + Starter, XP Pro +Home, 2kAS, Linux Mint 8, SuperOS CPU AMD 64 Athlon X2 , Intel Atom N450, Intel Celeron M 1.50 Ghz Motherboard Acer Fuquene Memory 2.5GB ; 1GB; 2GB Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce7000m; Intel; Intel Sound Card Realtek AC57 Monitor(s) Displays 17" ;10.1"; 19" Screen Resolution 1440x900;1024x600;1440x900; PSU 19v Case Laptop Cooling Air Hard Drives WD 80, WD 320; Internet Speed 9.7Mb/s down 0.99Mb/s up Other Info ISP VIRGINMEDIA 10M cable broadband - D-Link DIR615 wireless router, 3Com OfficeConnect ASDL router used as wireless extender switch Legality of buying licenses from student MSDN accounts for resale problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:22 AM. | |