| Windows 7: When there's a big green flash from a PSU... |
19 Apr 2011
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#1 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit England |
When there's a big green flash from a PSU... (I'm guessing this thread would go there as it isn't really an overclocking thing, but part of the internals of a computer)
I bought a 500W PSU for my computer. It was too big for my apparently shorter than standard case, but when I was building my computer I flicked the red switch on the back (the europe to US voltage one) with it switched on (but the system wasn't functioning). There was a big green flash and a slight pinging noise.
Just wondering, is that PSU totally done for? | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number [NEW PC :D] HP Pavilion p6565uk OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1035T @2.6GHz (hexacore) (=15.6GHz) Motherboard FOXCONN (2AA9) Memory 6GB DDR3-1333 (running at 1066) Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GT 230 (1.5GB) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio (with 5.1 surroundsound always on) Monitor(s) Displays HP 2311x (primary), Sharp LL-T1620-H (secondary) Screen Resolution 1924x1080 Keyboard Microsoft Wireless Keyboard 2000+ HP Media Centre Remote Mouse Microsoft Wireless Mouse 2000 PSU 500W Case Stock HP one that came with it, mid-size ATX Cooling Stock fans, they're fairly quiet. Hard Drives 1TB internal WD Caviar Black
500GB Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm (for TV storage)
500GB Seagate FreeAgent Desk
500GB Seagate External Desktop Drive Internet Speed Lets just say my phone connection is four times faster... Other Info Also:
- HP deskjet 3050A
- Two HP ZV5000 laptops (the better of the two recently broke)
- A Compaq Evo D310 (has 2GB RAM and a 2.53GHz P4 but is curiously extremely slow)
- A desk fan - this weather is warm ;)
- A fair few retro consoles
- Too many cables behind the desk, probably a hazard. |
19 Apr 2011
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#2 | | Several, including Windows 7 x64 Ultimate |
Probably. You should NEVER attempt to switch voltages or do anything else at all like that with power connected to the machine.
This is not only because it is likely to fry your machine, but because it is also likely to fry YOU !!!
The big green flash was likely a condenser or other component exploding. The green colour is usually caused by copper vapourising. If you sniff the power supply AFTER SWITCHING OFF ANY POWER AND REMOVING THE PLUGS FROM WALL SOCKETS ETC and it smells odd, that is usually the heated and splattered contents of a ruptured condenser.
However, other components can also explode or short circuit if you try to switch voltages with the power connected. This can also destroy various chips on your motherboard.
Also, if you switch input voltages to lower voltages than you actually have available, the power supply will fail catastrophically when switched on.
For instance, if you have switched the PSU to 110V input, and you plug it into a socket with 230V then something is likely to explode. Even if nothing apparently happens, the PSU is in any case completely unserviceable as a result. This too can also destroy various other components.
Regards....Mike Connor | My System Specs | | OS Several, including Windows 7 x64 Ultimate |
19 Apr 2011
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#3 | | |
Unless you are good at fixing PSU's then I would guess that the answer is yes...Time to go buy a new one! | My System Specs | | |
19 Apr 2011
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#4 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit England |

Quote: Originally Posted by Mike Connor Probably. You should NEVER attempt to switch voltages or do anything else at all like that with power connected to the machine.
This is not only because it is likely to fry your machine, but because it is also likely to fry YOU !!!
Regards....Mike Connor ok, thanks 
I guess I should consider it a lucky escape and be more wary next time 
Quote: Originally Posted by wilywombat Unless you are good at fixing PSU's then I would guess that the answer is yes...Time to go buy a new one! Well I took it apart afterwards (being careful with what I touched) and the fuse didn't look blown. any idea what would be damaged? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number [NEW PC :D] HP Pavilion p6565uk OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1035T @2.6GHz (hexacore) (=15.6GHz) Motherboard FOXCONN (2AA9) Memory 6GB DDR3-1333 (running at 1066) Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GT 230 (1.5GB) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio (with 5.1 surroundsound always on) Monitor(s) Displays HP 2311x (primary), Sharp LL-T1620-H (secondary) Screen Resolution 1924x1080 Keyboard Microsoft Wireless Keyboard 2000+ HP Media Centre Remote Mouse Microsoft Wireless Mouse 2000 PSU 500W Case Stock HP one that came with it, mid-size ATX Cooling Stock fans, they're fairly quiet. Hard Drives 1TB internal WD Caviar Black
500GB Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm (for TV storage)
500GB Seagate FreeAgent Desk
500GB Seagate External Desktop Drive Internet Speed Lets just say my phone connection is four times faster... Other Info Also:
- HP deskjet 3050A
- Two HP ZV5000 laptops (the better of the two recently broke)
- A Compaq Evo D310 (has 2GB RAM and a 2.53GHz P4 but is curiously extremely slow)
- A desk fan - this weather is warm ;)
- A fair few retro consoles
- Too many cables behind the desk, probably a hazard. |
19 Apr 2011
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#5 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit England |

Quote: Originally Posted by Mike Connor ...The big green flash was likely a condenser or other component exploding. The green colour is usually caused by copper vapourising. If you sniff the power supply AFTER SWITCHING OFF ANY POWER AND REMOVING THE PLUGS FROM WALL SOCKETS ETC and it smells odd, that is usually the heated and splattered contents of a ruptured condenser.
However, other components can also explode or short circuit if you try to switch voltages with the power connected. This can also destroy various chips on your motherboard.... ah. so I'm guessing it isn't fixable/would be very hard to fix? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number [NEW PC :D] HP Pavilion p6565uk OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1035T @2.6GHz (hexacore) (=15.6GHz) Motherboard FOXCONN (2AA9) Memory 6GB DDR3-1333 (running at 1066) Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GT 230 (1.5GB) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio (with 5.1 surroundsound always on) Monitor(s) Displays HP 2311x (primary), Sharp LL-T1620-H (secondary) Screen Resolution 1924x1080 Keyboard Microsoft Wireless Keyboard 2000+ HP Media Centre Remote Mouse Microsoft Wireless Mouse 2000 PSU 500W Case Stock HP one that came with it, mid-size ATX Cooling Stock fans, they're fairly quiet. Hard Drives 1TB internal WD Caviar Black
500GB Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm (for TV storage)
500GB Seagate FreeAgent Desk
500GB Seagate External Desktop Drive Internet Speed Lets just say my phone connection is four times faster... Other Info Also:
- HP deskjet 3050A
- Two HP ZV5000 laptops (the better of the two recently broke)
- A Compaq Evo D310 (has 2GB RAM and a 2.53GHz P4 but is curiously extremely slow)
- A desk fan - this weather is warm ;)
- A fair few retro consoles
- Too many cables behind the desk, probably a hazard. |
19 Apr 2011
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#6 | | |
The amount of grief and time wasted fault finding and spare parts does not equate to the cost of buying a new one. | My System Specs | | |
19 Apr 2011
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#7 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit England |

Quote: Originally Posted by wilywombat The amount of grief and time wasted fault finding and spare parts does not equate to the cost of buying a new one. well it did only cost £15, so I suppose 'no point crying over spilt milk' 
I guess i'll buy a new one when I buy a new case - this time i'll know to match the sizes | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number [NEW PC :D] HP Pavilion p6565uk OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1035T @2.6GHz (hexacore) (=15.6GHz) Motherboard FOXCONN (2AA9) Memory 6GB DDR3-1333 (running at 1066) Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GT 230 (1.5GB) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio (with 5.1 surroundsound always on) Monitor(s) Displays HP 2311x (primary), Sharp LL-T1620-H (secondary) Screen Resolution 1924x1080 Keyboard Microsoft Wireless Keyboard 2000+ HP Media Centre Remote Mouse Microsoft Wireless Mouse 2000 PSU 500W Case Stock HP one that came with it, mid-size ATX Cooling Stock fans, they're fairly quiet. Hard Drives 1TB internal WD Caviar Black
500GB Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm (for TV storage)
500GB Seagate FreeAgent Desk
500GB Seagate External Desktop Drive Internet Speed Lets just say my phone connection is four times faster... Other Info Also:
- HP deskjet 3050A
- Two HP ZV5000 laptops (the better of the two recently broke)
- A Compaq Evo D310 (has 2GB RAM and a 2.53GHz P4 but is curiously extremely slow)
- A desk fan - this weather is warm ;)
- A fair few retro consoles
- Too many cables behind the desk, probably a hazard. |
19 Apr 2011
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#8 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |
I've never heard of any ordinary user repair or maintenance of a PSU other than replacing the fans.
Consider it a lesson learned and look for a replacement. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load |
19 Apr 2011
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#9 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit England |

Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic I've never heard of any ordinary user repair or maintenance of a PSU other than replacing the fans.
Consider it a lesson learned and look for a replacement. will do 
just glad I didn't blow any of the other components... :S | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number [NEW PC :D] HP Pavilion p6565uk OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1035T @2.6GHz (hexacore) (=15.6GHz) Motherboard FOXCONN (2AA9) Memory 6GB DDR3-1333 (running at 1066) Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GT 230 (1.5GB) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio (with 5.1 surroundsound always on) Monitor(s) Displays HP 2311x (primary), Sharp LL-T1620-H (secondary) Screen Resolution 1924x1080 Keyboard Microsoft Wireless Keyboard 2000+ HP Media Centre Remote Mouse Microsoft Wireless Mouse 2000 PSU 500W Case Stock HP one that came with it, mid-size ATX Cooling Stock fans, they're fairly quiet. Hard Drives 1TB internal WD Caviar Black
500GB Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm (for TV storage)
500GB Seagate FreeAgent Desk
500GB Seagate External Desktop Drive Internet Speed Lets just say my phone connection is four times faster... Other Info Also:
- HP deskjet 3050A
- Two HP ZV5000 laptops (the better of the two recently broke)
- A Compaq Evo D310 (has 2GB RAM and a 2.53GHz P4 but is curiously extremely slow)
- A desk fan - this weather is warm ;)
- A fair few retro consoles
- Too many cables behind the desk, probably a hazard. |
19 Apr 2011
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#10 | | Several, including Windows 7 x64 Ultimate |

Quote: Originally Posted by biggles1000 
Quote: Originally Posted by Mike Connor Probably. You should NEVER attempt to switch voltages or do anything else at all like that with power connected to the machine.
This is not only because it is likely to fry your machine, but because it is also likely to fry YOU !!!
Regards....Mike Connor ok, thanks 
I guess I should consider it a lucky escape and be more wary next time 
Quote: Originally Posted by wilywombat Unless you are good at fixing PSU's then I would guess that the answer is yes...Time to go buy a new one! Well I took it apart afterwards (being careful with what I touched) and the fuse didn't look blown. any idea what would be damaged? Switching power supplies are only serviceable by a qualified electronics technician. Trying to do so without the required knowledge and equipment is extremely dangerous and unlikely to work.
Usually, the "big green flash" is caused by an exploding condenser, ( AKA Capacitor), this also tends to spray the circuit board with the contents and produce a nasty smell. Switching power supplies that have been subjected to catastrophic failure in this manner are theoretically reparable, but it is not worth the time and effort involved to try. Not even for a qualified technician. The unit would be replaced.
EDIT: Because it may be of general interest. Switching power supplies function quite differently from transformers and similar equipment. Highly specialised equipment is required to test them. They only work properly under very specific load conditions. Repairing such equipment is completely outside the scope of any hobby computer builder.
Some more information; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switched-mode_power_supply http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_s...%28computer%29
Regards....Mike Connor
Last edited by Mike Connor; 19 Apr 2011 at 08:04 AM..
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