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Windows 7 - x86 versus x64 questions |
07-13-2009
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x86 versus x64 questions I have tried Windows 7 7100, but it was an x86 version. I read several threads about the x86 vs x64, and would like to maybe try the x64 version of the new RTM, but I have a few questions:
1) How can I find out if my computer is x64 compatible? I have a dual core Opteron 170 processor and my HD's are all SATA (if that makes any difference)
2) I have loads of software, will I have to upgrade any? The one I am concerned about is Adobe Master Collection CS4. Don't want to have to do that one again. Also, I do web design, so have that type of software plus I have a webcam, which I think I read may be a problem.
3) Is there anything else I need to know before going forward?
| My System Specs | | OS Win 7 x64 CPU i7 920 @ 4Ghz Motherboard Asus P6T Deluxe v2 Memory 6 Gb Graphics Card ATI 4770 PSU Corsair TX750 Case Coolermaster ATCS 840 Cooling Prolimatech Megahalem Hard Drives 1 ea 750 GB
1 ea 1TB
1 ea 750 GB
1 ea 750 GB
No Raid, all SATA Internet Speed 30 |
07-13-2009
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#2 | | Windows 7 Build 7600|16384- 64bit |
You can download CPU-Z and look for the instruction set of x86-64. CPUID
Going from x86 to x64, you must do a clean install.. So you will have to reinstall Adobe, sorry.
Just backup your documents and bookmarks and anything else you use regularly, besides programs. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Made OS Windows 7 Build 7600|16384- 64bit CPU AMD Phenom II X4 810 - 2.61ghz Deneb Motherboard Asus M4A79T Deluxe Memory 4GB DDR3 Mushkin (1600 O.C. Rated) Graphics Card ATI HD Radeon 4890 1GB Sound Card Realtek HD Onboard Audio Monitor(s) Displays AOC 912vwa-1 Screen Resolution 1440x900 (Max Monitor) Keyboard Logitech Elite Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU Corsair TSX750W Case Antec Nine Hundred Cooling Air Cooled Hard Drives 10000RPM 150GB Western Digital Velociraptor Internet Speed Comcast High-Speed (+Powerboost) |
07-13-2009
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It depends on your CPU (is OK As far as I know) and how much RAM you have. 2Gbyte RAM or more, and you are fit to go with x64.
If you are using Adobe CS4 then you will love x64 with a lot of RAM as this can really make a difference in speed when rendering big pictures.
It is only a few older webcams that makes problems as I understand it, but you might want to try and ask in the driver-group in this forum.
Write the name and model of your webcam in a post and ask if anybody knows of problems with a driver for your webcam.
3) You can't upgrade to x64, you have to do a clean install, but if you have Windows 7 installed now, try looking in All Programs-> accessories->system tools->Windows easy transfer. Run this utillity and let Windows 7 make a big file with your setups. After installing the new OS, then same path, same program this time telling the program, that this is your new "PC", and all your settings will be restored. Actually, if you have the programs installed on C:\ then it is not so easy, but if your programs is installed in another drive, then go ahead  . | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel E6850 3,0 running 3,6 Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte DS4 P35 Memory 2x2 and Gb Corsair PC6400 CAS5 - 4GB total Graphics Card Nvidia Geforce 260GTX Sound Card Creative X-Fi Fata1ty Gamer Extreme Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 2493hm Screen Resolution 1920*1200 Keyboard Logitech G15 (blue backlight) Mouse Logitech G5 laser PSU Zahlman 850HP Case Shg Cooling Evo 120 Hard Drives Intel X25-M SSD for system
2x 1Tb Samsung F1 as seperate discs Internet Speed 25/25 mbit Other Info 1 Samsung SATA dvd-burner
1 LiteOn SATA dvd-burner |
07-13-2009
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I figured I would have to do a fresh install. What I was worried about regarding the software is not necessarily the re-install (although that usually takes me about a week - all weekend, then 5 week nights), but whether they would work at all. I thought I read somewhere about a Photoshop x64 version. And the reference to the Adobe MC - I don't want to have to buy another piece of the Adobe rock. | My System Specs | | OS Win 7 x64 CPU i7 920 @ 4Ghz Motherboard Asus P6T Deluxe v2 Memory 6 Gb Graphics Card ATI 4770 PSU Corsair TX750 Case Coolermaster ATCS 840 Cooling Prolimatech Megahalem Hard Drives 1 ea 750 GB
1 ea 1TB
1 ea 750 GB
1 ea 750 GB
No Raid, all SATA Internet Speed 30 |
07-13-2009
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63 bit vs 32 
Quote: Originally Posted by donnyb I have tried Windows 7 7100, but it was an x86 version. I read several threads about the x86 vs x64, and would like to maybe try the x64 version of the new RTM, but I have a few questions:
1) How can I find out if my computer is x64 compatible? I have a dual core Opteron 170 processor and my HD's are all SATA (if that makes any difference)
2) I have loads of software, will I have to upgrade any? The one I am concerned about is Adobe Master Collection CS4. Don't want to have to do that one again. Also, I do web design, so have that type of software plus I have a webcam, which I think I read may be a problem.
3) Is there anything else I need to know before going forward? hey and welcome
1- to find out if your computer is capible you cana go to grc.com and download a small free program called securable. It looks like this
2-most (if not all) 32 bit will run on 64 bit systems just a tad less efficiently. there may not be a problem with your webcam driver check your models manufacturer.
There is tons more you need to know. Lets just skim the surface. How much memory do you have, what kind of video card and how much memory. How much hard disk space, etc.
It really isn't rocket science. Ask us all the questions you can think of thats why we are here.
Hope this helped
Ken
Last edited by zigzag3143; 07-21-2009 at 06:16 AM..
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07-13-2009
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It looks like I am good to go. CPU-Z reports x86-64 and Securables shows I have 64 also.
My system has 2 gig of ram and my vid card is an ATI All in wonder X800XL with 256 memory.
I have tons of HD space: 3 drives at 750 gig and 2 replaceable drives at 500 gig each. BTW - the Windows 7 is on one of the replaceables. By replaceables, I mean I have a drive bay that has a removeable tray that houses a SATA drive. I have two drive trays for the one bay that I use for backup. One goes off-site. I'm not paranoid, I just have some critical data from a few websites. I will check about the webcam tomorrow. | My System Specs | | OS Win 7 x64 CPU i7 920 @ 4Ghz Motherboard Asus P6T Deluxe v2 Memory 6 Gb Graphics Card ATI 4770 PSU Corsair TX750 Case Coolermaster ATCS 840 Cooling Prolimatech Megahalem Hard Drives 1 ea 750 GB
1 ea 1TB
1 ea 750 GB
1 ea 750 GB
No Raid, all SATA Internet Speed 30 |
07-13-2009
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#7 | | Windows 7 Build 7600|16384- 64bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by Sven It depends on your CPU (is OK As far as I know) and how much RAM you have. 2Gbyte RAM or more, and you are fit to go with x64.
If you are using Adobe CS4 then you will love x64 with a lot of RAM as this can really make a difference in speed when rendering big pictures.
It is only a few older webcams that makes problems as I understand it, but you might want to try and ask in the driver-group in this forum.
Write the name and model of your webcam in a post and ask if anybody knows of problems with a driver for your webcam.
3) You can't upgrade to x64, you have to do a clean install, but if you have Windows 7 installed now, try looking in All Programs-> accessories->system tools->Windows easy transfer. Run this utillity and let Windows 7 make a big file with your setups. After installing the new OS, then same path, same program this time telling the program, that this is your new "PC", and all your settings will be restored. Actually, if you have the programs installed on C:\ then it is not so easy, but if your programs is installed in another drive, then go ahead  .
You sure you can do that? Cause all the paths change going to 64bit. Program Files (x86) versus Program Files which is 64bit. There is also different areas of the registry for windows 64bit. I would think doing a backup of all that would cause more problems in the long run, since the paths are not even remotely the same. It would be safer just to reinstall everything from scratch, rather then back it up. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Made OS Windows 7 Build 7600|16384- 64bit CPU AMD Phenom II X4 810 - 2.61ghz Deneb Motherboard Asus M4A79T Deluxe Memory 4GB DDR3 Mushkin (1600 O.C. Rated) Graphics Card ATI HD Radeon 4890 1GB Sound Card Realtek HD Onboard Audio Monitor(s) Displays AOC 912vwa-1 Screen Resolution 1440x900 (Max Monitor) Keyboard Logitech Elite Mouse Logitech MX518 PSU Corsair TSX750W Case Antec Nine Hundred Cooling Air Cooled Hard Drives 10000RPM 150GB Western Digital Velociraptor Internet Speed Comcast High-Speed (+Powerboost) |
07-13-2009
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Quote: Originally Posted by Sven It depends on your CPU (is OK As far as I know) and how much RAM you have. 2Gbyte RAM or more, and you are fit to go with x64.
If you are using Adobe CS4 then you will love x64 with a lot of RAM as this can really make a difference in speed when rendering big pictures.
It is only a few older webcams that makes problems as I understand it, but you might want to try and ask in the driver-group in this forum.
Write the name and model of your webcam in a post and ask if anybody knows of problems with a driver for your webcam.
3) You can't upgrade to x64, you have to do a clean install, but if you have Windows 7 installed now, try looking in All Programs-> accessories->system tools->Windows easy transfer. Run this utillity and let Windows 7 make a big file with your setups. After installing the new OS, then same path, same program this time telling the program, that this is your new "PC", and all your settings will be restored. Actually, if you have the programs installed on C:\ then it is not so easy, but if your programs is installed in another drive, then go ahead  . Windows Easy Transfer does not work x86 <> x64. Must be same "x".
I also have my drives on hot-swapable trays. It works great. I actually AM paranoid  .
Photoshop CS4 and Lightroom work great in 64-bit, especially Photoshop with extra memory, if you do lots of layers, local corrections and such, plus you can have lots of history to play with. Nero 9 also will use the extra mem and will use the multiple cores. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom workstation /// Lenovo X61t tablet notebook OS Windows 7 RTM x64 CPU Core i7 980X @ 4.04GHz OC /// Core Duo L7500 @ 1.6GHz Motherboard Asus P6T6 WS Revolution /// Memory 12GB G. Skill @ DDR-1600 OC /// 4GB Graphics Card Saphire HD4870 Toxic 1GB /// Intel Mobile GMA X3100 Monitor(s) Displays Dual Eizo 24" SX2461W /// 12" Screen Resolution 1920x1200 /// 1400x1050 Keyboard Logitech Edge /// Mouse Logitech Wireless Optical Trackball PSU Tagan ITZ 1100 Case GHS-1500 /// Cooling Thermalright IFX-14 + a slew of stealth fans /// Hard Drives Workstation:
5x 750GB Barracuda-11 on Areca ARC-1220;
4x 1.5TB Barracuda-11 on Intel ICH10R;
Volumes:
300GB RAID 0, 2.7TB RAID 10 on Intel;
100GB RAID 0, 1.4TB RAID 10 on Areca ///
Notebook: G.Skill Titan 256GB SSD Internet Speed 5Mbps down / 820Kbps up Other Info Main use: photography;
DVD Drive: L.G GGW-H20L Blu-Ray / DVD;
OC: QPI/DRAM @ 1.33v, CPU @ 1.293v, DRAM Bus @ 1.65v, CPU PLL @ 1.88v, CPU mult = 25x, BCLK = 160, DDR3-1604 @ 7-8-7-24 |
07-13-2009
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I'll add this. The Creative Labs 64-bit drivers are garbage. Staticy, scratchy sound that is much lower than usual. 32-bit drivers are fine.
They've had how many years to get this right? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP OS Windows 7 RC Build 7260 CPU AMD Athlon 64 x2 4100+ Memory 4GB Sound Card X-Fi xtreme Music |
07-13-2009
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#10 | | Windows 7 7264x64(main), 7260x86(secendary), XP SP3 Triple Boot |

Quote: Originally Posted by DarkAudit I'll add this. The Creative Labs 64-bit drivers are garbage. Staticy, scratchy sound that is much lower than usual. 32-bit drivers are fine.
They've had how many years to get this right? I hate creative..
anyway you can try shrinking one of your partition, to make space for a new windows 7 64-bit install, and have dual boot, so in case things don't work out too well with x64 you still have your widnows x86 unmodified... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number home made OS Windows 7 7264x64(main), 7260x86(secendary), XP SP3 Triple Boot CPU Intel Core 2 Duo E7400 2.8Mhz Motherboard Intel G33 express chipset Memory 2GB DD2 667 Graphics Card Intel(R) 82G33 Graphics and Memory Controller Hub Sound Card Realtek Built into the G31 Monitor(s) Displays 19" Screen Resolution 1280x1024 Keyboard Genius Mouse Logitech Case Gigabyte SETTO Hard Drives 320GB SATA (Main), 160GB IDE (Backup) Internet Speed 1MB Download, 128k Upload x86 versus x64 questions problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:00 AM. |  |