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Windows 7: Does 7 offer any additional security features over Vist

19 Jul 2009   #11

OS X Leopard
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by netguysc View Post
Hi,

I'm curious if 7 offers any additional security features that Vista doesn't offer.

I am learning all I can about 7 but haven't heard much about security.

Thanks
No, same crap.

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19 Jul 2009   #12

windows 7
 
 

Personally I love Vista and it's ability to make it so much easier to use a standard user account with the advent of UAC. Once I password protected my admin account and then switched to my standard account for everyday activity I am pretty sure I was more well protected than I have ever been with any other OS.

I am aware of other security elements that vista introduced, but I am not able to recall or even fully understand all of them.

I just thought that maybe windows 7 brought something never seen before in a windows os, such as vista did.

Personally I will raise up the UAC in 7 to match vista. I feel like with a password protected admin account and having the UAC enabled really protects my computer by alerting me when suspicious activity takes place. I will agree it aggravated me to have to allow ccleaner to run everytime I wanted to use it, but that was the exception.

I am getting off subject,

I just haven't heard much about the security aspect of 7 in either the advertising or even word of mouth. I am sure refining Vistas security toolbox is great I was just hoping for something else new and unexpected.
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19 Jul 2009   #13

Windows 7 7600.16384 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mez4junk View Post
No, same crap.

Not exactly, read my 1st post.
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19 Jul 2009   #14

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
 
 

I love how someone makes a thread like this, and a bunch of us point out all the security features, post links to security features explained by the developers, and tell about our own experiences with it. We provide tons of proof, and most of us have never even been infected.

Then some random guy with like 5 posts comes in and says, "nope, it still sucks" with bad grammar, misspellings, and no punctuation.
No proof.
Just an opinion, based on nothing.
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........
Yeah.
It is never even anyone who knows anything about it. Now, if John, or Shawn, or another of the Gurus came in here and said that.... They would have proof first off, and it would not be wrong.
But when some random person says that, who really knows NOTHING about computers (not much more than the average user anyways), it just pisses me off.

If that is your OPINION, then SAY so! Or, if you think it is FACT, then PROVE IT.

Stop wasting our time.

~Lordbob
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19 Jul 2009   #15

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 - Mac OS X 10.6.4 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by 7echno7im View Post
I think UAC was a wake up call to all bad applications out there needing admin privileges to run. Its not so much that UAC was adjusted for applications, software developers were finally forced to make adjustments in the applications and what rights were needed to do what.

UAC pointed out these flaws to developers, and for the first time they had to make corrections.

I believe UAC was a wake up call to developers, more than the end users. I was tired of granting users admin privileges just to launch an app....
TBH I couldn't even say...all I know is the last time I got a virus was two years before Windows Vista went into Beta 1 (that was a long time ago) and I don't really bother to use anti-virus...be safe and smart online and you won't get a virus
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19 Jul 2009   #16

 

UAC got reworked in Windows 7 not toned down. I for one am glad as I found it that annoying in Windows Vista I turned it off. Do i really need 2 UAC prompts to delete a file. It's not some rogue program but the user doing the action.

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The default setting, shown in Figure 3, is one of the new levels. Unlike Always Notify, which is the selection at the top of the slider and is identical to the default mode in Windows Vista, the Windows 7 default prompts the user only when a non-Windows executable asks for elevation; the behaviour for non-Windows elevations is the same as it was for Windows Vista.
User Account Control: Inside Windows 7 User Account Control
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19 Jul 2009   #17

Windows 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Frostbite View Post
UAC got reworked in Windows 7 not toned down. I for one am glad as I found it that annoying in Windows Vista I turned it off. Do i really need 2 UAC prompts to delete a file. It's not some rogue program but the user doing the action.


User Account Control: Inside Windows 7 User Account Control

While I understand (having been a programmer) that an exploit could, in fact, hook the mouse... I'd like it to know. I mean, how hard is it to code in "hey, the USER dragged that file, from its window, onto the trash can"? And then... y'know... NOT prompt twice for UAC, and twice for Recycle bin?

Honestly I turn UAC completely off. Why? Because I hook up a lot of different hard drives in the course of a day's work, and I'm sick to DEATH of the way UAC "enhances" the file permissions. Actually I've already converted one of my workstations to Windows Server 2008 R2 (Windows 7 Server) because it uses real permissions... the other machine is a laptop that I occasionally game on, so I'm trying to avoid the server OS.

I am just sick of trying to access my OWN files on a different box only to be told I'm not the owner, or I don't have access, or that I DO have access but that somehow halfway through the file operation it "failed" because "access denied".

Really MS needs to fix the ACL enhancement part of UAC before I'll use it. But they aren't really catering to my demographic with the workstation OS, now are they?
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19 Jul 2009   #18

Windows 7 RTM x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Zidane2424 View Post
TBH I couldn't even say...all I know is the last time I got a virus was two years before Windows Vista went into Beta 1 (that was a long time ago) and I don't really bother to use anti-virus...be safe and smart online and you won't get a virus

Very true
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