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Windows 7: Does 7 offer any additional security features over Vist

18 Jul 2009   #1
netguysc

windows 7
 
 
Does 7 offer any additional security features over Vist

Hi,

I'm curious if 7 offers any additional security features that Vista doesn't offer.

I am learning all I can about 7 but haven't heard much about security.

Thanks


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18 Jul 2009   #2
Lordbob75

Windows 7 Ultimate x64, Mint 9
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by netguysc View Post
Hi,

I'm curious if 7 offers any additional security features that Vista doesn't offer.

I am learning all I can about 7 but haven't heard much about security.

Thanks
YES they do! Mostly in the form of a better UAC (less instrusive as well).

I don't know about all that much, but others here will be able to fill you in.

~Lordbob
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18 Jul 2009   #3
Antman

 

Take a peek at the Windows Security blog.
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18 Jul 2009   #4
7echno7im

Windows 7 7600.16384 x64
 
 

Yes it does. Most of the features are from Vista, but they either expanded on them (like Bit Locker on removable drives, expanded firewall policy) or lessened the annoyances (less UAC warnings)

Here is a list of some of the Windows 7 Security Enhancements.

Windows 7 Security Enhancements

Windows 7 Security Enhancements
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19 Jul 2009   #5
gurm42

Windows 7
 
 

There's also a substantially reduced set of .exe's that are allowed to run with Admin privs.

Also, if you consider "not sucking" as making the system more secure (and I do) then it's VASTLY more secure. *grin*
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19 Jul 2009   #6
DataMan47

Windows 7 Pro (MSDN)
 
 

UAC being less annoying also makes UAC usless, because it's easy for any malware author to bypass UAC (there's a working demonstration of this). There's no way to patch this hole without making UAC as annoying as it was in Vista.

Less annoying? Yes. But from a security standpoint, UAC is now ineffective (unless you bump up the setting so that it matches the old Vista behavior), and you might as well just turn it off (even less annoying! ). UAC is still effective as an extra prompt to help prevent the user from accidentally doing something bad, but when it comes to malware, the ease with which they can hook into the loophole and bypass UAC makes the new UAC nothing more than a placebo, and it makes 7 technically less secure than Vista...

(OTOH, UAC is just a part of defense-in-depth, and it's the final defense barrier before Something Bad Happens; if malware manages to get as far as UAC, then you've got other problems on your hands.)
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19 Jul 2009   #7
jasjeet

Windows 7 x64 RTM
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DataMan47 View Post
UAC being less annoying also makes UAC usless, because it's easy for any malware author to bypass UAC (there's a working demonstration of this). There's no way to patch this hole without making UAC as annoying as it was in Vista.
Try Anti Virus/Malware software, with HIPS enabled Firewall. Who relies on Windows protection for anything.

Would you use Microsoft Office anti virus protection? NO its an Office suite like Windows is an OS, its primary job is not to defend against malware.

Personally i use Avira Antivirus with Windows Firewall, and UAC off. With considerate browsing ive yet to be a victim to nasty's.
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19 Jul 2009   #8
DataMan47

Windows 7 Pro (MSDN)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jasjeet View Post
Try Anti Virus/Malware software, with HIPS enabled Firewall. Who relies on Windows protection for anything.

Would you use Microsoft Office anti virus protection? NO its an Office suite like Windows is an OS, its primary job is not to defend against malware.

Personally i use Avira Antivirus with Windows Firewall, and UAC off. With considerate browsing ive yet to be a victim to nasty's.
Uh, that completely misses the whole point of UAC. It's called defense-in-depth. Read up on it. UAC is supposed to help hold the line when all the other lines of defense have been bypassed. Talking about AV is useless because if UAC is in a position to matter, then that means that the AV has already failed to do its job.

As for AV, it too is just another line in the defense-in-depth. If you keep your software updated and don't do anything stupid, you don't need AV (actually, AV can't protect you against software exploits; it can only protect against user stupidity). I run with UAC disabled and no AV. I just make sure that my primary lines of defense are good enough that I can risk going without the backup lines; besides, any form of AV is mostly snake oil that makes you feel more secure by wasting CPU and churning your disk but that actually has limited value for advanced users because of their inability to proactively handle most software bug exploits (now, for clueless newbies, they're quite useful because they do help defend against user stupidity).
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19 Jul 2009   #9
sjaak327

Windows Vista, Server 2008, Leopard, Suse
 
 

Well I support Microsoft's position on UAC, don't disable it, you also disable file and registry virtualisation, not only good for security, but more for application compatiblity.
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19 Jul 2009   #10
7echno7im

Windows 7 7600.16384 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gurm42 View Post
There's also a substantially reduced set of .exe's that are allowed to run with Admin privs.

Also, if you consider "not sucking" as making the system more secure (and I do) then it's VASTLY more secure. *grin*

I think UAC was a wake up call to all bad applications out there needing admin privileges to run. Its not so much that UAC was adjusted for applications, software developers were finally forced to make adjustments in the applications and what rights were needed to do what.

UAC pointed out these flaws to developers, and for the first time they had to make corrections.

I believe UAC was a wake up call to developers, more than the end users. I was tired of granting users admin privileges just to launch an app....
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