Windows 7 ....ooops !

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BluePeter

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Hi Forum,
Two days into my new OS, which I was delighted with, I have suddenly failed to clear a hurdle on the course. Performance has slowed considerably..took for ages to get on the internet to-day.... and when testing it's speed last night, in Speedtest, the upload speed reported an error. It does seem to have rectified itself to-day however.
The only change to the system has been downloading around 83 upgrades and putting SP1 amongst them. Upgrade also has a Internet Explorer 9 awaiting download but I have declined this because, in the main, I use Firefox 5. My technician has recommended Google Chrome instead of this and he feels MSE and Malwarebytes are ineffective. You have to pay for Anti Virus he says. I ran a FULL scan to-day and an Adware item was found. Anything to worry about ? I hope my "honeymoon" period is not over yet with this OS.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Pavilion HDX 18 - 1005EA
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit SP1
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo P8400 @ 2.26GHz 2.27 GHz
Motherboard
?
Memory
4 gb
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT
Sound Card
NVIDIA HDMI Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
NVIDIA Generic PnP 1920 by 1080
Hard Drives
ST 9250827AS (Microsoft) Driver 6.0.6002. 18005
WDC WD 2500BEVT-00SCST0 (Microsoft) " " "
PSU
?
Case
Laptop
Cooling
?
It could have bogged down for any number of reasons, and now that it's resolved itself (even if temporarily), it's difficult to make a diagnosis. However, if it happens again, post back with more details about your internet setup, including if you use wireless, router, etc.

As far as AV, most here recommend MSE and MWBytes. Lately, I've come to appreciate the thoroughness of SuperAntiSpyware as well.
 

My Computer

OS
Win7U 64 RTM
CPU
Q9550
Motherboard
GA-EP45-UD3R
Memory
8GB Gskill
Graphics Card(s)
ASUS|EAH4850/HTDI/1GD3/A
Sound Card
xfi Plat
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 2405fpw
Screen Resolution
1920x1200
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Seagate & WD sata Drives
PSU
Antec
Case
Antec
Keyboard
MS Natural Ergonomic 4000
Mouse
Logitech MX610 USB Cordless
BluePeter said:
Hi Forum,
My technician feels MSE and Malwarebytes are ineffective. You have to pay for Anti Virus he says. I ran a FULL scan to-day and an Adware item was found. Anything to worry about ? I hope my "honeymoon" period is not over yet with this OS.
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Get a new technician!!

I install MSE on all new builds now and also advise customers who are coming to the end of yearly subscription to switch. I do this for free for them if they bring the PC to me.
 

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Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
openSUSE 13.1 64bit
CPU
i7
Motherboard
Gigabyte UD5
Memory
6gb Gskill matched DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Radeon HD4600
Sound Card
All onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
HP 2159v
Hard Drives
120gb Samsung SSD for the OS
2 * 1tb WD Caviar Black for storage
PSU
Corsair 750w
Case
Antec 920
Cooling
Aksas Nero
BluePeter said:
My technician has recommended Google Chrome instead of this and he feels MSE and Malwarebytes are ineffective. You have to pay for Anti Virus he says.
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I think your technician is wrong. MSE and Malwarebytes are quite effective, as objective tests have shown. There's also the free Standalone System Sweeper from MS. You do not have to pay for AV software.

As far as Chrome vs. Firefox, that's just a matter of personal preference. I prefer FF, but I do try Chrome from time to time. I don't think your issues have anything to do with browser choice.

I suspect your slow Internet, which rectified itself, was a hiccup with your ISP. It happens.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Compaq Presario SR5518F (desktop)
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
CPU
Intel Pentium Dual Core E2180 @2GHz
Motherboard
MSI "Boston"
Memory
4 GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT
Sound Card
Integrated - Realtek High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer
Hard Drives
Hitachi HDP725025GLA380 ATA Device
Optiarc DVD RW AD-7201S5 ATA Device
Internet Speed
5 Mbps
Peter,
The technican is mistaken, MSE and Malwarebytes are among the best protection that you can have. As far as the system slowing down, that can be from any number of things and not a matter of concern if it has stopped. If it happens again, perform a clean boot to determine the cause.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929135
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell XPS 420
OS
Windows 10, Home Clean Install
CPU
Intel Core2 processsor Q8200(2.33Ghz 1333FSB) Quad Core Tech
Motherboard
Dell
Memory
6 gb
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon 256MB HD3650
Sound Card
Intergrated 7.1 Channel Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell SP2009W 20"
Hard Drives
640 GB Serial ATA Hard drive
Cooling
Fan
Keyboard
Dell USB Keyboard
Mouse
Dell Premium Optical USB
Internet Speed
DSL 2.85
sgage said:
BluePeter said:
My technician has recommended Google Chrome instead of this and he feels MSE and Malwarebytes are ineffective. You have to pay for Anti Virus he says.
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I think your technician is wrong. MSE and Malwarebytes are quite effective, as objective tests have shown. There's also the free Standalone System Sweeper from MS. You do not have to pay for AV software.

As far as Chrome vs. Firefox, that's just a matter of personal preference. I prefer FF, but I do try Chrome from time to time. I don't think your issues have anything to do with browser choice.

I suspect your slow Internet, which rectified itself, was a hiccup with your ISP. It happens.
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Dear sgage,
You are correct. It must have been an issue with my ISP as my system is now back to all it's glory. Thanks.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Pavilion HDX 18 - 1005EA
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit SP1
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo P8400 @ 2.26GHz 2.27 GHz
Motherboard
?
Memory
4 gb
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT
Sound Card
NVIDIA HDMI Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
NVIDIA Generic PnP 1920 by 1080
Hard Drives
ST 9250827AS (Microsoft) Driver 6.0.6002. 18005
WDC WD 2500BEVT-00SCST0 (Microsoft) " " "
PSU
?
Case
Laptop
Cooling
?
richc46 said:
Peter,
The technican is mistaken, MSE and Malwarebytes are among the best protection that you can have. As far as the system slowing down, that can be from any number of things and not a matter of concern if it has stopped. If it happens again, perform a clean boot to determine the cause.
How to troubleshoot a problem by performing a clean boot in Windows Vista or in Windows 7
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Hi Rich,
It was an issue with my ISP I feel and the system is now back in full swing. Peter.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Pavilion HDX 18 - 1005EA
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit SP1
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo P8400 @ 2.26GHz 2.27 GHz
Motherboard
?
Memory
4 gb
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 9600M GT
Sound Card
NVIDIA HDMI Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
NVIDIA Generic PnP 1920 by 1080
Hard Drives
ST 9250827AS (Microsoft) Driver 6.0.6002. 18005
WDC WD 2500BEVT-00SCST0 (Microsoft) " " "
PSU
?
Case
Laptop
Cooling
?
Many people think if it's free it is no good. That is not always the case. I have used MSE and Malwarebytes for quite some time and have never been infected. Who knows the vulnarabilities of an OS better than the ones who made it?
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    ALWAYS UNDER CONSTRUCTION
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5900X
    Motherboard
    Asus X570 Crosshair Viii Hero
    Memory
    32GB G Skill DDR4-3600
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 3080 FTW 3 Ultra
    Sound Card
    On Board/Sennheiser PC37X Headset
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 X Asus 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    2 X 1 TB NVME drives
    PSU
    EVGA 850
    Case
    Phanteks Eclipse P400A
    Cooling
    EVGA 280 AIO
    Keyboard
    Logitech G510s/ Logitech G13
    Mouse
    Logitech G502
    Internet Speed
    24/1
    Antivirus
    ESET/MBAM Pro/SAS Pro
    Browser
    Chrome/ Firefox/ Edge
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell 16 Plus
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    CPU
    Intel Ultra 9 288V
    Memory
    32 GB LPDDR5X 8533
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16" Mini-LED HDR600 Touch 90 Hz
    Screen Resolution
    2560X1600
    Hard Drives
    1 TB NVME
essenbe said:
Many people think if it's free it is no good. That is not always the case. I have used MSE and Malwarebytes for quite some time and have never been infected. Who knows the vulnarabilities of an OS better than the ones who made it?
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Not only that, of great benefit (to me, anyway...) is the fact that the free versions are mostly unbloated...they don't have to keep adding useless feature on top of useless, bloated feature to try to retain their market. Fast, light and effective.

To the O.P.: There's a reason why these free versions are so popular. They work.
 

My Computer

OS
Win7U 64 RTM
CPU
Q9550
Motherboard
GA-EP45-UD3R
Memory
8GB Gskill
Graphics Card(s)
ASUS|EAH4850/HTDI/1GD3/A
Sound Card
xfi Plat
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 2405fpw
Screen Resolution
1920x1200
Hard Drives
Seagate & WD sata Drives
PSU
Antec
Case
Antec
Keyboard
MS Natural Ergonomic 4000
Mouse
Logitech MX610 USB Cordless
The only exception which comes to mind is one Typhoid Harry who I suspect's a porn addict and careless about what he downloads. After quite a few major cleanups I am having him buy the Malwarebytes real time version.

You could do that if you don't trust yourself or want extra assurance, since the Malwarebytes scanner is what we'd have you use to clean anything up that hasn't already eaten your System beyond repair.

I also think we owe it to Malwarebytes to start promoting their paid realtime version which really is far and away the best, since some users want to pay for something. Malwarebytes has saved many systems here almost daily for years.

MSE/Avast and Malwarebyes free or paid. Or paid ESET/Nod32 and Malwarebytes paid if you really want to pay for the best yet least bloated.
 
I had Mcafee, free, from my ISP provider. When MSE became well known I switched and found 2 trojans. YOu do no always get what you pay for.
 

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Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell XPS 420
OS
Windows 10, Home Clean Install
CPU
Intel Core2 processsor Q8200(2.33Ghz 1333FSB) Quad Core Tech
Motherboard
Dell
Memory
6 gb
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon 256MB HD3650
Sound Card
Intergrated 7.1 Channel Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell SP2009W 20"
Hard Drives
640 GB Serial ATA Hard drive
Cooling
Fan
Keyboard
Dell USB Keyboard
Mouse
Dell Premium Optical USB
Internet Speed
DSL 2.85
And most of the paid ones get entries in all of your registry files that you will never get rid of. Been there done that-Thanks Norton.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    ALWAYS UNDER CONSTRUCTION
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5900X
    Motherboard
    Asus X570 Crosshair Viii Hero
    Memory
    32GB G Skill DDR4-3600
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 3080 FTW 3 Ultra
    Sound Card
    On Board/Sennheiser PC37X Headset
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 X Asus 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    2 X 1 TB NVME drives
    PSU
    EVGA 850
    Case
    Phanteks Eclipse P400A
    Cooling
    EVGA 280 AIO
    Keyboard
    Logitech G510s/ Logitech G13
    Mouse
    Logitech G502
    Internet Speed
    24/1
    Antivirus
    ESET/MBAM Pro/SAS Pro
    Browser
    Chrome/ Firefox/ Edge
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell 16 Plus
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    CPU
    Intel Ultra 9 288V
    Memory
    32 GB LPDDR5X 8533
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16" Mini-LED HDR600 Touch 90 Hz
    Screen Resolution
    2560X1600
    Hard Drives
    1 TB NVME
Mucafee is some of the worst crapware I've ever come across, damaging system files when trying to remove it's bloated infection.
 
gregrocker said:
I also think we owe it to Malwarebytes to start promoting their paid realtime version which really is far and away the best, since some users want to pay for something. It has saved the day here several times a week for years.
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Good point. Actually, many should use the full version to their own benefit. Full time monitoring means they don't have to do anything but click 'remove'.
 

My Computer

OS
Win7U 64 RTM
CPU
Q9550
Motherboard
GA-EP45-UD3R
Memory
8GB Gskill
Graphics Card(s)
ASUS|EAH4850/HTDI/1GD3/A
Sound Card
xfi Plat
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 2405fpw
Screen Resolution
1920x1200
Hard Drives
Seagate & WD sata Drives
PSU
Antec
Case
Antec
Keyboard
MS Natural Ergonomic 4000
Mouse
Logitech MX610 USB Cordless
gregrocker said:
Mucafee is some of the worst crapware I've ever come across, damaging system files when trying to remove it's bloated infection.
Click to expand...

That's why they made a special McAfee and Norton removal tool. But, even that won't completely remove them.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    ALWAYS UNDER CONSTRUCTION
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5900X
    Motherboard
    Asus X570 Crosshair Viii Hero
    Memory
    32GB G Skill DDR4-3600
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 3080 FTW 3 Ultra
    Sound Card
    On Board/Sennheiser PC37X Headset
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 X Asus 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    2 X 1 TB NVME drives
    PSU
    EVGA 850
    Case
    Phanteks Eclipse P400A
    Cooling
    EVGA 280 AIO
    Keyboard
    Logitech G510s/ Logitech G13
    Mouse
    Logitech G502
    Internet Speed
    24/1
    Antivirus
    ESET/MBAM Pro/SAS Pro
    Browser
    Chrome/ Firefox/ Edge
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell 16 Plus
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    CPU
    Intel Ultra 9 288V
    Memory
    32 GB LPDDR5X 8533
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16" Mini-LED HDR600 Touch 90 Hz
    Screen Resolution
    2560X1600
    Hard Drives
    1 TB NVME
essenbe said:
And most of the paid ones get entries in all of your registry files that you will never get rid of. Been there done that-Thanks Norton.
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Norton's blunder never dies, but somehow, neither do they. It's wrong. :shock:
 

My Computer

OS
Win7U 64 RTM
CPU
Q9550
Motherboard
GA-EP45-UD3R
Memory
8GB Gskill
Graphics Card(s)
ASUS|EAH4850/HTDI/1GD3/A
Sound Card
xfi Plat
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 2405fpw
Screen Resolution
1920x1200
Hard Drives
Seagate & WD sata Drives
PSU
Antec
Case
Antec
Keyboard
MS Natural Ergonomic 4000
Mouse
Logitech MX610 USB Cordless
Mr. Norton needs his new Rolls. Billions for bloatware = profit margins for low margin PC rigs.

Solution: Clean reinstall the PC you bought with a clean copy of the OS you own which came with it. They are your property to do what you want with.

Here's how: Reinstalling Windows 7
 
No argument here. But, He's received the last dollar he will get from me. Clean install is the only way I got rid of it.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    ALWAYS UNDER CONSTRUCTION
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5900X
    Motherboard
    Asus X570 Crosshair Viii Hero
    Memory
    32GB G Skill DDR4-3600
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 3080 FTW 3 Ultra
    Sound Card
    On Board/Sennheiser PC37X Headset
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 X Asus 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    2 X 1 TB NVME drives
    PSU
    EVGA 850
    Case
    Phanteks Eclipse P400A
    Cooling
    EVGA 280 AIO
    Keyboard
    Logitech G510s/ Logitech G13
    Mouse
    Logitech G502
    Internet Speed
    24/1
    Antivirus
    ESET/MBAM Pro/SAS Pro
    Browser
    Chrome/ Firefox/ Edge
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell 16 Plus
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    CPU
    Intel Ultra 9 288V
    Memory
    32 GB LPDDR5X 8533
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16" Mini-LED HDR600 Touch 90 Hz
    Screen Resolution
    2560X1600
    Hard Drives
    1 TB NVME
Gotta give it to him. His real genius is marketing. Anyone who can successfully market a product that is widely known as bloatware and problemware has something going for him. Too bad he uses his talent for evil...
 

My Computer

OS
Win7U 64 RTM
CPU
Q9550
Motherboard
GA-EP45-UD3R
Memory
8GB Gskill
Graphics Card(s)
ASUS|EAH4850/HTDI/1GD3/A
Sound Card
xfi Plat
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 2405fpw
Screen Resolution
1920x1200
Hard Drives
Seagate & WD sata Drives
PSU
Antec
Case
Antec
Keyboard
MS Natural Ergonomic 4000
Mouse
Logitech MX610 USB Cordless
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