Creating Partitions


  1. Posts : 5
    Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
       #1

    Creating Partitions


    I have a new computer with a 1TB HD. I want to create new partitions for my various data.
    Disk Management shows: SYSTEM RESERVED 100 MB NTFS Healthy, (C:) 906.34 GB NTFS
    Healthy (Boot, Page File, Crash Dump, Primary Partition) 857.48 GB free space, 25.07 GB Healthy (OEM Partition)

    In the past I have used 3rd party partitioning programs to create new partitions. I am not familiar with the situation where there is an unmovable file located in the middle
    of the hard drive preventing me from using all of the available free space. Also, I have never had to temporarily relocate a page file, etc. I would appreciate some assistance
    in determining what course of action I should take.

    Disk Manager says:
    Total size before shrink in MB: 928093
    Size of available shrink space in MB: 449795
    Enter amount of space to shrink in MB:
    Total size after shrink in MB: 478298* *this amount if you enter 449795 in amount of space to shrink

    !You cannot shrink a volume beyond the point where any unmovable files are located. See the "defrag" event in the Application log for detailed information about the
    operation when it has completed.

    See 'Shrink a Basic Volume' in Disk Management help for more information.


    Help in Disk Management says:
    When you shrink a partition, certain files (for example, the paging file or the shadow copy storage area) cannot be automatically relocated and you cannot decrease the
    allocated space beyond the point where the unmovable files are located. If the shrink operation fails, check the Application Log for Event 259, which will identify the
    unmovable file. If you know the cluster or clusters associated with the file that is preventing the shrink operation, you can also use the fsutil command at a command
    prompt (type fsutil volume querycluster/? for usage). When you provide the querycluster parameter, the command output will identify the unmovable file that is preventing
    the shrink operation from succeeding.

    In some cases, you can relocate the file temporarily. For example, if the unmovable file is the paging file, you can use Control Panel to move it to another disk, shrink
    the volume, and then move the page file back to the disk.
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  2. Posts : 22,814
    W 7 64-bit Ultimate
       #2

    Hello rsnow, welcome to Seven Forums!


    You can use the Partition Wizard Boot Disk (PWBD) to do this shrink but don't take it to less than 100GB to be on the safe side and be sure to use the boot disk and not the installed version.

    Boot the PWBD and it will setup automatically without any input needed, right click the C: partition and select Move/Resize, then see the snip below for the next steps, then Apply and accept the final conformation.

    Have a look at this tutorial at the link below for some other ideas and be sure to post back with any further questions you may have and to keep us informed.
    First download the PWBD ISO file to the desktop, be sure to get the PWBD and not the installed version; scroll down to see the download link for the bootable CD ISO file at this link below.
    Then use ImgBurn to burn the ISO to a CD, at no greater than 4x speed with a verify; it was designed for use and works best from a CD rather than a DVD, then boot the created CD to make the changes.
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  3. Posts : 5
    Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
    Thread Starter
       #3

    Thanks BFK. To answer your question, it is not that 400+ GB is or is not enough for my data, rather that I was mystified as to why the entire amount of unused space was not available. In the past I have mostly used custom built machines using hard drives from off the shelf so I had never encountered a hard drive with an unmovable file in the middle of the space available after installing the OS.

    Anyway, thanks for the prompt response and I will be studying the information you have provided. It may take me a little while to decide on my course of action as it has also been suggested to me to just use what's there and not worry about partitioning. But I have always felt that a 'personal' computer should be something I can configure and use the way I want rather than how someone else dictates. I just wish I was smart enough to do it as easily as some folks seem to do it.

    I will get back and post what I try to do and how it turns out.
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  4. Posts : 22,814
    W 7 64-bit Ultimate
       #4

    Hello again.


    My apologies, I deleted that question as it's not really my business how you configure your PC.

    If you do use Partition Wizard be sure to use the boot disk, it's a lot more reliable than the installed version.

    Using Windows disk management to create a partition of the 'new' unallocated space will give you an Extended partition by default, that is why I suggested the use of Logical drives as you can create as many Logical drives within an Extended partition as there are available drive letters.


    Yes be sure to post back with updates.
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  5. Posts : 5
    Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
    Thread Starter
       #5

    I'm still trying to get things set up before I try to make any changes. I downloaded and burned the disk with PW Boot Disk. However, when I tried to test it, I discovered that my Lenovo K330 doesn't recognize it. I am not sure if it is because of the disk or because my bios is not set to read the cd drive before the hd for booting instructions. My other problem is that when I boot up I do not get the flash screen showing how to enter the bios. I guess I should have gotten a custom made machine with off the shelf parts so it would operate the way I am used to seeing.
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  6. Posts : 22,814
    W 7 64-bit Ultimate
       #6

    If you have a Lenovo - the blue Thinkvantage button, at PC startup start continually tapping that, it may take a few tries to get the timing down so it boots.
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  7. Posts : 5
    Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
    Thread Starter
       #7

    Hey, thanks again! The only problem is I don't have a blue button. I do have an orange button labeled LVT. So, I guess I'll try that and see what happens. I'll let you know.
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  8. Posts : 11,408
    ME/XP/Vista/Win7
       #8

    Before you go to far, make your Recovery disks.

    You can Order Lenovo Recovery Disks from here:
    Lenovo Support - How can I get a Product Recovery CD or DVD?

    Lenovo Recovery
    Lenovo Support - How do I recover my factory installed programs and files? - Desktops and Workstations
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  9. Posts : 62
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
       #9

    Hey rsnow, I have a K330 also and asked a similar question. Received some good info maybe it could be of some help to you. Partition question

    To get to the boot menu tap F-12 at startup until you hear a beep.
    Creating Partitions-img_0544.jpg

    Then select your CD drive, put in the CD and hit enter. Next screen should be pick a resolution then boot to PW.
    Creating Partitions-img_0546.jpg

    If you want to restore your computer to the way she arrived hit F-2 at startup. That will bring you to the Lenovo Rescue System where you can restore to original or to a saved image. There are some other options there also.

    Later

    This is my 1st help post. (Found one I could contribute to.)
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  10. Posts : 5
    Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
    Thread Starter
       #10

    Thanks to all. Yes, I found out that the F1 key lets me into the bios and there I was able to enable the screen showing that F12 would let me into the boot menu. I did and was able to boot from the PW boot disk.

    So, it looks good to go for the resizing and creating the data partition as soon as I complete making my Recovery disks. I see the system has a built in recovery method but I always like to have the disks just in case.

    Thanks again for all the help. I'll mark this thread as solved. Of course I may be back with other problems. I seem to have a knack for that.
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