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Windows 7: File management issues


09 Jul 2011   #1

Windows 7 Professsional 64 bit
 
 
File management issues

Hello again,
I hesitate to beat this flogged horse any more, but I am really, really having a hard time with file management in Windows 7. I have learned that I can install a third party program which will behave more like former versions of Windows Explorer, and I am close to trying it. But I would like to have just a bit more understanding of just what the "new" Windows Explorer configuration is up to in Windows 7. (I will only mention that it's even more frustrating having constant "Windows Explorer has stopped working" events as I work.)
I have been informed by helpful contributers to this forum about the "libraries" and "pointers" which, although meant to be helpful, are actually confusing to me.
Here's my latest query:
Starting at the top of the Tree in Windows Explorer, there is a folder with my user name, say "Jack". Under that folder there are two "my documents folders. One of them is apparently a "pointer" for legacy programs, and the other is "real" and contains a number of files. When I right click on the "real" my documents folder and open properties, it says there are zero bytes. But there are a number of files.
Now, further down in the tree, under
computer\computer name (Cusers\jack
which I am told is the "real" user folder, there is only the inaccessable "my documents" folder with the little arrow on the side of it. The my documents in the higher up in the tree folder with my user name has lots of files in it.

I am trying to set up a tree I can live with and work with my files the way I want to. It seems that Win 7 is making this impossible for me.
I am I nuts? Or is there some rhyme or reason for this situation? Am I alone in finding this very frustrating?

I am really trying to be patient and learn what is going on, what is the structure of the "new" Windows Explorer and how I can learn to co-exist with it.

Any advice or references or links would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks.

Jack

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09 Jul 2011   #2
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

Hi Jack (don't say that on an airplane)
I know what you mean about Libraries, confusing. What I did was to got to the library (each one) and it showed 2 or more locations. I deleted all but the "real" folder, ie, Documents, and I simply use the Start menu to access it and other default folders. No library opening, just the selected folder.
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09 Jul 2011   #3

Windows 7 Professsional 64 bit
 
 

[QUOTE=Britton30;1483667]Hi Jack (don't say that on an airplane)
Quote:
What I did was to got to the library (each one) and it showed 2 or more locations. I deleted all but the "real" folder, ie, Documents, and I simply use the Start menu to access it and other default folders.
I can certainly try to do that. I'm not sure about accessing Windows Explorer from the start menu. (My win 7 computer is tied up now running chkdsk so I can't test it.)
Is there any way to have a logical tree starting at the root folder c:\ and going down from there? Just like (sigh) in earlier versions (although in fact they did add some out of logic folders, which I learned to ignore.)

The logic of that file structure tree just seems so clean. I'm having a real problem wrapping my simple mind around the "new" structure, and having some dummy folders doesn't help.
Furthermore, the Windows 7 Windows explorer jumps around to parent folders as I try to work in subfolders, but I've already complained about that in this forum.)
Thanks for the reply.


Jack
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09 Jul 2011   #4
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

Here is my layout with my C\ expanded a couple of times.
File management issues-tree.png
If I click any of the Library entries near the top, that particular folder opens. If it's expanded it shows a folder with "My" on it and also opens the same folder. Maybe I'm not fully understanding what you want to do.
Sometimes it takes a few explanations to "get" it.


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09 Jul 2011   #5
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

Watching racing on TNT, will check back tomorrow buddy.
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09 Jul 2011   #6

Windows 7 Professsional 64 bit
 
 

Quote:
Here is my layout with my C\ expanded a couple of times.
Nice! Now I could work with that. I've copied it and will see about getting my messy Windows Explorer to morph into that sort of form.
I'll attach a screenshot of my own layout when I can get to the machine.
Enjoy the races, and thanks.

Jack
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09 Jul 2011   #7

Windows 7 Ultimate RTM (Technet)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Britton30 View Post
Hi Jack (don't say that on an airplane)
I know what you mean about Libraries, confusing. What I did was to got to the library (each one) and it showed 2 or more locations. I deleted all but the "real" folder, ie, Documents, and I simply use the Start menu to access it and other default folders. No library opening, just the selected folder.
Then you essentially defeated the purpose of Libraries.
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09 Jul 2011   #8

Windows 7 Ultimate RTM (Technet)
 
 

[QUOTE=Jack C;1483688]
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Britton30 View Post
Hi Jack (don't say that on an airplane)
Quote:
What I did was to got to the library (each one) and it showed 2 or more locations. I deleted all but the "real" folder, ie, Documents, and I simply use the Start menu to access it and other default folders.
I can certainly try to do that. I'm not sure about accessing Windows Explorer from the start menu. (My win 7 computer is tied up now running chkdsk so I can't test it.)
Is there any way to have a logical tree starting at the root folder c:\ and going down from there? Just like (sigh) in earlier versions (although in fact they did add some out of logic folders, which I learned to ignore.)

The logic of that file structure tree just seems so clean. I'm having a real problem wrapping my simple mind around the "new" structure, and having some dummy folders doesn't help.
Furthermore, the Windows 7 Windows explorer jumps around to parent folders as I try to work in subfolders, but I've already complained about that in this forum.)
Thanks for the reply.


Jack
It takes one click to get to drive C:....what is the issue? The file structure HAS NOT changed at all.
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10 Jul 2011   #9
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

Yup, don't need libraries with my setup. It's much easier.New isn't always better, but I can see where some users may find multiple clicking to open a folder may be attractive.
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10 Jul 2011   #10

Windows 7 Professsional 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Britton30 View Post
Here is my layout with my C\ expanded a couple of times.
Attachment 164166
If I click any of the Library entries near the top, that particular folder opens. If it's expanded it shows a folder with "My" on it and also opens the same folder. Maybe I'm not fully understanding what you want to do.
Sometimes it takes a few explanations to "get" it.
I hope I don't seem ungrateful, and I really do appreciate your and everyone else's attempts to educate me about what I find a quirky and hard-to-use Windows Explorer in Windows 7 .... But, I installed Explorer++ ... and so far I love it. I had been recommended to get Free Commander which is also nice, but a little more complicated than I had hoped for. So I'm still very early with the freeware Explorer++ (Explorer++ - A small and fast file manager for Windows) ... but it looks great to me. I sent the writer a donation as soon as I installed and opened the program! So I'm hoping my file management problems are solved. Many thanks again.

Jack
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