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Windows 7: One mans thoughts on Vista and Toshiba

22 Jul 2009   #11

Se7en X64 ultimate/Se7en X64 ultimate

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Tharon View Post
Also bare in mind, that if you have bought a system with Vista on, and you have tha ability to downgrade (Wich I call upgrade) to XP Pro. You need to use the cd provided with the whole package when you bought the computer.
This is because the product key that came with XP is a socalled royalty-key. The key will only work on a install-cd that toshiba has made.

PS Sorry bout my bad english.
sorry but nowadays U do not have the choice to install XP if desired, I bought an hp laptop and it was almost impossible to install XP, they just dont make the drivers for XP for the laptop, it took me 2hrs of research to find a comparable driver to make a certain hardware work!

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22 Jul 2009   #12
Microsoft MVP

Win 7 Ultimate x64

You think Toshiba is bad, try Sony. I found this,

a while ago. notice that the scroll bar is only showing about 1/3 of the installed programs list, and that was before they had even installed anything.

I just worked on someones computer today, and he had a brand new, something. Ran ok, but I looked at its specs, and it was just not as fast as it should have been! Crapware strikes again.
Same here, only it was a brand new HP computer. On first boot it took around 5 minutes to get to the desktop. had a quick look in Task Manager and there was almost 70 processes running, and over a dozen things in msconfig. Then proceeded to remove the Norton crapware (trialware) and anything else the person didn't want, as well stop everything that wasn't necessary in msconfig; and once that was done it too about a minute or so from boot to desktop.
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22 Jul 2009   #13

64-bit Windows 8.1 Pro

Vista was the reason I installed Linux .... W7 was the reason I came back!!
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22 Jul 2009   #14

Windows Vista, Server 2008, Leopard, Suse

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by damoh View Post
I was actually looking at what this thing installed. As per the second post, yes i understand that companies pay to have there shiny icon on your desktop but as lordbob said, it should be a choice if you have it installed or not. And in my opinion, manufactuers have a right to ensure that you can choose to install this rubbish or not. I mean really if i want an amazon or ebay account, ill go get one myself. Perhaps i should ask toshiba to send me a cheque for the time i spent reinstalling 7 onto a computer i paid for.

But then when you look at it,
2 hours in total to install vista before it can get to a usable desktop.
1 hour to create restore disks, which i did.

15 minutes to wipe it and install 7.
2 hours ? usually it takes me 20 minutes to install vista off a normal Microsoft iso

The problem is, that if these companies would make you customise the way they install the os + what crapware is added, this will increase the prices of those boxes.
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23 Jul 2009   #15

@Home/Work: Windows 8.1 Enterprise x64

I agree with you all about crapware. I remember when I bought my Acer Aspire 4520 with 1 GB. of RAM and the pre-installed software's consumption of 1,2 GB. of RAM.
Acer must have guts to sell a laptop with software that not suits into the minimun system memory!
Also I remember that it's Vista Home Premium and the 1 GB. memory amount where like this for just a few minutes, so I formatted the OS partition with Windows 7 and upgraded memory to 2 GB.
Now, idle Windows uses 600~700 MB. of RAM and runs smoothly and flawlessly... THAT'S a notebook!
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23 Jul 2009   #16

Windows 7 Professional x64

i bought a student's HP laptop about 1.5-2 years ago with vista preinstalled. except some stupid norton trial there was, luckily, no other crapware installed...
except vista, to say. This was vista before SP1 ... unusable, slow ... etc I hated it from the first moment on.
At least HP was nice enough to give me down- (up?)grade CD's to windows xp with all drivers and after installing that it was usable.
Now with win7 ... it's really nice
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