| Windows 7: Win7 stability, speed, reliability all degrading noticeably fast? |
14 Jul 2011
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Win7 stability, speed, reliability all degrading noticeably fast? Is this a worldwide problem I'm wondering?
I've got about 8 different Windows 7 boxes (some laptops, a few desktops, and some media machines). The frequency of "inexplicable weird things" and other aggravations has been increasing over time, and just the last few months I've found myself having done at least 4 complete re-installs, and despite this - all 8 of my boxes are suffering various different problems.
I am basically loosing WEEKS of work time dealing with pointless fixes to what I thought would have, by now, been a stable operating system.
Some (and by no means is this a comprehensive list) of the recent issues I'm facing are BSOD problems on 2 different boxes (" Driver state power failure"), various (but not all) internet programs failling to connect from one laptop, *extreme* slowness one another latop and two media center desktops, an inexplicably "corrupted" registry occurence, and other weird but similar things.
Most of my machines are new brand-name (HP mostly) boxes, with a couple of other ones thrown in. They all work fine using "live boot" linux distro DVDs, and I have no problems with my one other box that's not Windows (a Mac).
Do I just happen to have the worlds worst Windows 7 luck, or is this a growing problem with Windows 7 worldwide in general??? | My System Specs |
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14 Jul 2011
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#2 | | Win7 x 6 PC's California, Florida, Boston |
No this is not common at all. In fact I can't remember the last time it was reported here and we get them all.
Are you following basic Windows 7 troubleshooting steps monitoring System Resources listed to try to detect problems?
Are you using the drivers given by the installer and updated by optional Windows Updates after enabling hardware auto-updating? Automatically get recommended drivers and updates for your hardware
Are you tweaking Windows 7 beyond normal system settings, editing services, using Registry cleaners or optimizers?
Try following these steps which apply to get a perfect clean reinstall: Reinstalling Windows 7
Then run normally and report back symptoms as they appear. | My System Specs | | |
14 Jul 2011
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 Mt. Crumpit/Whoville |
Welcome to Seven Forums cnd.
One more thing is to have a good security suite, AV, firewall, anti-everything, etc on each mac nine doing regular scans, and keeping them updated. We see many performance issues from infected systems from people who think it won't happen to them.
I recommend as backups, MalwareBytes and Super AntiSpyware for in between scans and Microsoft Security Essentials as a real time suite. All are free. I also use CCleaner to clean temp files, cookies, and garbage from the system. Links to all are in my sig.
If you systems are on quite a bit enable the Windows 7 automatic defragging feature. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built Desktop By DataTech OS Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 CPU Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB G.Skill Sniper 2133MHz 4x4GB Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 Sound Card Onboard Realtek 5-1 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung P2570HD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Old, beat-up Dell USB From 10 yrs Ago Mouse Gigabyte m6900 wired PSU Corsair HX650W Case Inwin Dragon Rider Cooling Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB for OS, 750GB Seagate MomentusXT for data, 500GB Seagate Constellation for storage Internet Speed 8-19 Mbs down, 3-4 Mbs up Comcast Cable Antivirus Norton Internet Security Browser IE 9, Opera when needed Other Info 4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power generator with flux capacitor, 1.21 gigawatts. |
14 Jul 2011
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Trouble x 8 = exhausting! Hi all,
Thanks for the tips. The main issue is that it's absolutely exhausting trying to keep these damned machines working. If I only had 1 PC, I probably would mind if it blew up every few months - but with 8 PCs, I'm facing issues at least every other week. I simply don't have time left to stuff around with all this instability! Two of my PCs are brand-new boxes that I bought specifically because I was trying to rid myself of the problems - BRAND NEW - and these are currently the worst offenders, both having given multiple problems in the last 2 weeks alone.
I (wronlgy it turms out) suspected my AV programs many months back, so I've switched a few different times (Kaspersky, Comodo, Bullguard) and I've gone as far as using none at all anymore on about half my PCs - in sheer desperation of trying to swat the big time-waste.
My setups are all wildly different - some re-installs are done from the factory media, other times I use the factory recovery-volume on the hard drive, still other times I've resorted to buying a brand new Windows 7 DVD and starting from scratch.
Perhaps the one thing I do the same on them all is allow windows to "update" itself - maybe I should stop doing that???
I don't even install the same stuff on them all - which is why I am beginning to think that the problem is with Windows itself, and not so much with me or my boxes or what I'm doing.
@gregrocker - I think you've contradicted yourself - you said "not common", but then said "we get them all" - just take a look at the forum stats here - the next most popular forum after "general" is "Crashes and Debugging".
Basically - what I'm wondering about is probably represented by the frequency of posting statistics over time. Is there an exponential growth in the number of new posts into the "Crashes and Debugging" forum - or is it flat over time?
My hunch is that things are getting rapidly worse... | My System Specs | | |
14 Jul 2011
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 Mt. Crumpit/Whoville |
Since this is a help forum, thats why there are a lot of a myriad of issues. May not be your case, but most problems are the users or people expecting Windows 7 to be XP.
Not using any security to reduce waste is a real bad idea. Give the ones I noted a try, MSE is free for up to 10 machines. I can see how having eight PC can be a time consuming chore. (why so many?  )
Change you updates to "Download but let me choose when to install." | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built Desktop By DataTech OS Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 CPU Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB G.Skill Sniper 2133MHz 4x4GB Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 Sound Card Onboard Realtek 5-1 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung P2570HD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Old, beat-up Dell USB From 10 yrs Ago Mouse Gigabyte m6900 wired PSU Corsair HX650W Case Inwin Dragon Rider Cooling Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB for OS, 750GB Seagate MomentusXT for data, 500GB Seagate Constellation for storage Internet Speed 8-19 Mbs down, 3-4 Mbs up Comcast Cable Antivirus Norton Internet Security Browser IE 9, Opera when needed Other Info 4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power generator with flux capacitor, 1.21 gigawatts. |
14 Jul 2011
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#6 | | Main - Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-Bit; 2nd - Windows Server 2008 R2 Westlake, Ohio |

Quote: Originally Posted by cnd ...Basically - what I'm wondering about is probably represented by the frequency of posting statistics over time. Is there an exponential growth in the number of new posts into the "Crashes and Debugging" forum - or is it flat over time?... Keep in mind that there are more and more Win 7 computers coming online, especially as businesses (finally) make the move from XP/Vista. I think Win 7 just passed 400,000,000 licenses. Quote: SevenForums Stats:
Threads: 151,886, Posts: 1,449,693, Members: 150,383 That's a lot of posts, and it should be obvious that people with a really serious problem are more likely to post than someone who has a minor question.
As for "@gregrocker - I think you've contradicted yourself - you said "not common", but then said "we get them all" - just take a look at the forum stats here - the next most popular forum after "general" is "Crashes and Debugging".", I'm sure the Cleveland Clinic sees more serious heart cases than the average hospital, but that's because they're considered the best in the world at curing them.
Between my housemate and myself we have seven computers running Win 7 and have had extremely few problems. I'd bet that a little investigative work will uncover something unique to your situation which can be fixed up. We'll be glad to help with that. Eight computers all having problems defies the law of probability when it comes to bad luck. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self OS Main - Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-Bit; 2nd - Windows Server 2008 R2 CPU Main - Core i7 2600K; 2nd - Core i7 920 Motherboard Main - Asus P8Z68-V Pro/Gen3; 2nd - Gigabyte GA-EX58-UDR3 Memory Main - 16GB Corsair Vengeance; 2nd - 12GB Corsair Vengeance Graphics Card Main - XFX Radeon 6870 1GB; 2nd - XFX Radeon 4870 1GB Sound Card Both: Onboard Realtek Azalia Monitor(s) Displays Main - Hann 25" + I-INC 25" + Acer 23"; 2nd - Upgrading Soon Screen Resolution Main - 1920x1080 (All Three Monitors); 2nd - Upgrading Soon Keyboard Main - Razer Reclusa; 2nd - Old MS Keyboard Mouse Main - Logitech MX Revolution; 2nd - Old MS Mouse PSU Main - OCZ 600W Modular; 2nd - OCZ 600W Case Main - Thermaltake Element G; 2nd - NZXT something or other Cooling Main - Corsair H80; 2nd - Prolimatech Megahalems Hard Drives Main - (1) Crucial M4 128GB (Boot)
Main - (1) Seagate 2TB 64MB Cache (Data)
Main - (1) Seagate 2TB 64MB Cache (Data Backup)
2nd - (1) Intel X25-M SSD 80GB (Boot)
2nd - (3) Seagate 1TB 32MB Cache (Data Backup)
2nd - (1) Seagate 320GB (Because) Internet Speed 20Mbps Time-Warner Cable |
14 Jul 2011
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ultimate RTM (Technet) Charlotte, NC |
Bottom line is, if you have multiple machines with similar problems, YOU are the common factor among those machines. Therefore something you are installing, changing, etc. is causing the issue. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Windows 7 Ultimate RTM (Technet) CPU 3.00 gigahertz Intel Core2 Duo E8400 Motherboard ASUSTeK Computer INC. P5K/EPU Rev 1.xx Memory 4GB Graphics Card ATI Radeon X1950 Pro Sound Card Built in HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays 22" Gateway LCD Screen Resolution 1920 x 1200 Keyboard Logitech G11 Mouse Microsoft Wireless Laser Mouse 5000 Hard Drives ST3160023A [Hard drive] (160.04 GB) -- drive 0, rev 8.01, ST3500630AS [Hard drive] (500.11 GB) -- drive 2, rev 3.AAK
ST3500630AS [Hard drive] (500.11 GB) -- drive 1, rev 3.AAK Internet Speed 13.44 Mbps |
15 Jul 2011
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#8 | | MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit Austin, Texas |
cnd,
I would like the pass a magic wand over your posts and all of your problems be gone, but.... that just isn't happening as we both know.
Let me suggest, a slow but sure approach. Post a new thread describing the the problem(s) of one of your problem children. But, please, only one problem child at a time.
After that one is solved, then start a new thread for the second problem child. And so on and so forth.
My personal experience has been that Win 7 is the least troublesome OS that I've ever used. And interesting is that I've a smoother, faster system on one laptop when I switched from 32 bit to 64 bit Win 7. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba Satellite S875D-S7239 laptop OS MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit CPU AMD A10-4600M Motherboard AMD Pumori (Socket FT1) Memory 6.00 GB Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 798MHz (11-11-12-28) Graphics Card AMD Radeon HD 7660G Sound Card High Definition Audio Device Monitor(s) Displays Generic PnP Monitor (1600x900@60Hz) Screen Resolution 1600x900@60Hz Keyboard Standard PS/2 Keyboard Mouse HP Wireless Optical Mobile Mouse Model FHA-3410 Hard Drives SSD 119GB Corsair CSSD-V128GB2 ATA Device Internet Speed What the local pub, local coffee shop offers. Other Info Optical Drive:MATSHITA BD-CMB UJ160B ATA Device
Also have an Asus ha1002xp netbook with Win 7 Ultimate installed. |
15 Jul 2011
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#9 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit Peterborough, England |
It would help us to help you if you could be more specific with the problems you're having with each computer rather than what appears to be a bit of a rant against Windows 7.
Like millions of others, I've been using a personal computer for many years and have found Windows 7 to be up there with the best (Windows XP SP3).
What we've been given so far is little different to taking your car in for repair and saying "I think there's something wrong with it. I'll leave it with you until you've fixed it."
Give us specific problems as suggested by karlsnooks and we can try and help. As things stand, we're pretty much in the dark. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion Elite 495UK OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-Bit CPU Intel Core i7 870 @ 2.93GHz Motherboard MSI 2A9C (CPU1) Memory 8Gb Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 664MHz Graphics Card nVidia GeForce GTX 460 1024MB dedicated RAM Sound Card Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays HP2310i Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech K750 solar-powered keyboard Mouse Logitech Wireless M180 mouse PSU 460W Case HP Elite Cooling Air cooled Hard Drives 1x1954GB Hitachi HDS22020ALA 330 (RAID), 1x1954GB Hitachi External for backup and storage Internet Speed 2Mb Other Info Pure Avanti Flow Internet Radio with iPod Dock, 64Gb iPod, HP USB Speakers, Sony MDR-V500 Headphones, Sony Vaio F-Series Laptop |
15 Jul 2011
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#10 | | Win7 x 6 PC's California, Florida, Boston |

Quote: Originally Posted by cnd @gregrocker - I think you've contradicted yourself - you said "not common", but then said "we get them all" - just take a look at the forum stats here - the next most popular forum after "general" is "Crashes and Debugging".
Basically - what I'm wondering about is probably represented by the frequency of posting statistics over time. Is there an exponential growth in the number of new posts into the "Crashes and Debugging" forum - or is it flat over time?
My hunch is that things are getting rapidly worse... No contradiction in saying having eight machines all degrading with problems is "not common."
As suggested the issue is obviously something the User is doing.
If really interested in solving problems rather than ranting and being contradictory, you would have laid out the exact symptoms in depth by now. And we would have helped. | My System Specs | | Win7 stability, speed, reliability all degrading noticeably fast? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:54 PM. | |