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30 Jul 2011   #11

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by alphanumeric View Post
What I usually do is Google the artist, look for a good picture to use, and down load it. If it's not a jpg file I'll use something like infanview to convert it to one. I may also edit out any thing I don't want. Sometimes I'll just edit an album cover and remove the text, etc. Once I have the picture I want, I rename it folder.jpg, move it to the folder and make it hidden. I have media player set to NOT "Retrieve additional information from the internet". I don't want it changing anything. I edited all my mp3 files with mp3tag to add any missing album art. Something I noticed while doing that was that you can have two or more images for your album art. I deleted everything except the one I wanted. I would think that could cause multiple thumbnails instead of just the one. The one thing to keep in mind is if there is no folder.jpg, windows will just look for images in any and all sub folders to display. I didn't like the multiple album covers etc so I slowly over time edited things the way I wanted them. I've been doing it this way since windows XP.
I know some of my folders must have this "folder.jpg" because if there are only eight tracks I will see 9 files or more. And I also see it in the external hard drive. But why some do and others don't I don't understand.

I tried manually adding folder.jpg to one but it didn't seem to change anything. I am at a loss on this.

edit: OK I found something. It is related to WMP. I had not used WMP until recently and now I wish I could set it back to when it had nothing but I can't. So if the album art is found by WMP it changes how it is displayed in the folder. If it isn't found it still displays the two pictures.

How do I get rid of what has been loaded for music in WMP?

edit2: Made some progress. Figured out how to do it your way. It's a good tool but I really would like it to work the way I previously had it.

Importantly I was able to reset WMP to initial settings. This was something I was trying to do on another thread but could not. Now we will see if it solves my problem with WMP adding the same artwork to all albums that don't have any.

Or maybe I will just forget all this and just look at my artwork in iTunes and who cares what the folders look like. Would make things a lot easier and less stressful.

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31 Jul 2011   #12

Windows 10 Education 64 bit

I have windows media player set to NOT "Retrieve additional information from the internet". I don't want it changing anything. Windows Media player gets it wrong some times and can really mess things up if you let it. For example, I've ended up with "Beatles" and "The Beatles", "Eagles" and "The Eagles". With albums split in half, one half under Beatles and the other half under The Beatles. And different album art for tracks in the same album. In the end it was easier to just edit it all my self with MP3TAG. I just slowly went though my whole collection one artist at a time. If you set windows to display hidden and system files you will find more than just the folder.jpg file in your mp3 folders. There will also be some album art pictures of varying sizes. I believe Windows MP uses them, windows creates them
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31 Jul 2011   #13

Win 7 Home Premium x64

Yes I have noticed now that WMP has my entire library in it, it has created these additional files you mention. I think they are small and large art. Funny thing is I can never see them even if I enable hidden files. And now that they are part of the files I sure hope they don't mess them up if I ever need to put them back in iTunes.

I had quite the adventure with WMP last night. Ended up having to reset it to initial. And I have it set NOT to retrieve info too. HAd it that way and still was doing weird things with the artwork. WMP had never been used on this computer for so long and it seemed like my artwork was going in My Music folders ok but now even after resetting it, WMP is definitely influencing how the artwork is displayed.

My WMP is messing up

I need to read up on how people who use iTunes deal with WMP. Or maybe they just don't. Problem is once I used WMP for something (viewing a video) I could not stop it from setting up my music library.
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31 Jul 2011   #14

Windows 10 Education 64 bit

Yeah once you launch it MP looks though certain folders for music etc and automatically adds any it finds to its library. In MP 11 you can select or exclude what folders are monitored. I can't seem to find that option in MP 12 though? I can't help you with iTunes, I don't use it, I have a Sony Walkman MP3 player and use MP to sync to it.
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31 Jul 2011   #15

Win 7 Home Premium x64

One positive out of all this is I can now play my music through WMP. I guess it now supports .m4a format which is what I have for almost all of my music. I remember when Microsoft wouldn't let you play Apple files.

On my old XP computer I don't remember WMP (version 10 maybe) giving me nearly as much trouble and IIRC it only populated with music that was outside of iTunes even though I had the same music I do now.

Now that I reset it and it is behaving I hope it doesn't mess me up again.
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31 Jul 2011   #16

Win 7 Home Premium x64

I know I've posted a lot but the way my folders display still doesn't seem right. Now that I've sorted out the WMP issues this is what is happening to my music folders specifically.

It doesn't matter if it's a new CD being added or changing information about a current music folder it seems to behave the same. I will use a new CD as an example.

I import the CD into iTunes. I manually add the artwork to the music files. It creates a new folder in My Music-->iTunes-->iTunesMedia. This new folder will show the album name and the folder will show as it contents two pages that show the iTunes logo w/MPEG-4 with the corners turned down. Inside the folder the music files are there with the artwork and the thumbnail to play with iTunes. So indeed the files do have the artwork attached. But it is not showing as contents when the folder is viewed.

Now if I open WMP it will update and the new album will appear in WMP with the artwork since it is attached to the files (I have retrieve from Internet turned off for WMP).

If I go back to the album folder in iTunes Media the folder that used to display the two pages now displays one page and it is the artwork. So WMP updating somehow translates in to the folder in My Music also being updated.

But the parent folder (the band name as opposed to the album name) still doesn't display any contents. Thats' when I have to do my workaround which is open the file location and customize the icon by resetting it to default. Then the contents of the album folder display as the contents of the band name folder.

Have I totally confused you? Essentially it comes down two questions/concerns. Why does the artwork not show up in the music folder until WMP has updated to include it?

Why do I have to do the workaround explained to get the parent folder to display the contents? This is also what I have to do for my dektop folders.

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31 Jul 2011   #17

Windows 10 Education 64 bit

My best guess is windows media player is creating the folder.jpg file when it scans the music folders. If Windows sees a folder.jpg file that becomes the single thumbnail for that folder, if its not there it shows multiple images based on what files are in the folder. Windows Media Player is adding folder.jpg files and changing the way things look.
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