Some programs unresponsible after certain file operations

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

  1. Posts : 92
    Windows 7 x64
       #1

    Some programs unresponsible after certain file operations


    Greetings,

    have following problem. I started to notice a long unresponsiveness or even complete freeze of some applications after performing certain file operations. These are the issues:
    - In µTorrent if I delete a task only, it continues operation instantly. If I delete task+associated torrent file, it becomes unresponsive for unusual period (mostly 30-60sec.). If I delete task+torrent file+torrent contents, it even freezes completely (didnot confirm if it only is a too long delay or complete freeze but after about 5 min I have given up and killed the application)
    - In Corel PhotoPaint if I save a large image to disk, after confirming the filter settings the application becomes unresponsive for about 30-60 sec. and during this period I get continuous system dialogs about application not being ready, Switch To.../Retry/Cancel.
    - In Win Explorer if I delete file, it becomes quite long before the confirmation dialog appears and it also takes quite a long the deleting operation self. This doesnot happen always.

    I thing all issues are related, not seen these delays on other applications yet.
    How do I locate the culprit and fix the problem? I didnot have these delays earlier.
      My Computer


  2. Posts : 6,668
    Windows 7 x64
       #2

    The utorrent problem should be solvable by simply moving the download directory out of your my docs area.
    say c:\downloads

    As for the other apps, it really sounds like your security software is sticking it's nose into these processes and slowing things down.
      My Computer


  3. Posts : 92
    Windows 7 x64
    Thread Starter
       #3

    Maguscreed said:
    The utorrent problem should be solvable by simply moving the download directory out of your my docs area.
    say c:\downloads
    Thanks for quick response but this is not the case, I use various download locations and it happens always regardless where do I store the data.

    Maguscreed said:
    As for the other apps, it really sounds like your security software is sticking it's nose into these processes and slowing things down.
    How can I find out which process sticking it's nose into them? I only use Comodo Personal Firewall with Defense+ deactivated, then SuperAntiSpyware but not autostarted and SAScore service set start to manual (not running during these file IO problems), UAC turned off, Security Center turned off, Microsoft Security Essentials with runtime protection turned off and MSE service set to manual (not running during the problems). I don't have more security sniffers installed Afaik.
      My Computer


  4. Posts : 6,668
    Windows 7 x64
       #4

    Well the quickest easiest test would just be to completely kill the comodo processes (exit program)
    and see if the problem persist.
    Comodo firewall actually monitors system services too, so it's not outside possibility.
      My Computer


  5. Posts : 92
    Windows 7 x64
    Thread Starter
       #5

    OK I give it a try but I'm afraid this won't be the solution since I'm using CFW a long time already with same configuration and this issue appeared as late as few weeks ago.
      My Computer


  6. Posts : 6,668
    Windows 7 x64
       #6

    Very common misconception especially with security software.
    It can be used stable for years and suddenly develop problems. It's a very common mistake in debugging people will often overlook a favorite app or item because it has worked in the past and they like it. Scrutinize everything :)
      My Computer


  7. Posts : 264
    Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit SP1 x64
       #7

    Maguscreed said:
    Well the quickest easiest test would just be to completely kill the comodo processes (exit program)
    and see if the problem persist.
    Comodo firewall actually monitors system services too, so it's not outside possibility.
    I concur it gets you when you do not expect.

    I have a simple BAT script that launches a few lines of VB script many times in succession.
    The results were horrendously irregular so I switched the Firewall to Block All and Disabled Defense+ (prime suspect) and A.V.
    That gave perfection, it iterated regularly many times a second,
    BUT at regular 33 second intervals it froze for 5 seconds.

    Windows Task manager saw nothing stealing processor time;
    Systernals Process Explorer saw Comodo using 25% (1 out of my 4 cores)
    Process Monitor gave me faaaarr toooo much information ! !

    Then I unplugged the Ethernet cable to the router and the 33 second glitch vanished - perfection as desired.
    I unplugged so that with safety from malware I could disable Comodo's firewall,
    but with it unplugged there was perfection when both enabled and disabled.

    Perhaps my ISP or my Router are checking my connection every 33 seconds,
    and that ICMP or whatever makes Comodo catatonic whilst cscript is running.

    Regards
    Alan
      My Computer


  8. Posts : 92
    Windows 7 x64
    Thread Starter
       #8

    Maguscreed said:
    Well the quickest easiest test would just be to completely kill the comodo processes (exit program)
    and see if the problem persist.
    Comodo firewall actually monitors system services too, so it's not outside possibility.
    I just have done that. I've disabled the CIS service in services manager, then I disabled the CPF agent from startup and had to system restart as CIS service doesnot allow to simply shut it down. After restart I have checked thet the service neither agent isn`t running then tried to add some torrent. After adding to task list I have chosen from µTorrent menu delete task + torrent file. The operation took exactly 55s till torrent client continued to redraw it's UI. I think it's abnormally high time for that. Then Comodo Internet Security is out of the game. Where do I have to look up next?

    P.S. I'm watching unusually long times by deleting files also from other programs, the delay is comparable.

    Anybody any idea?
    Last edited by Anakunda; 06 Aug 2011 at 12:24.
      My Computer


  9. Posts : 6,668
    Windows 7 x64
       #9

    I'm really about out of ideas on that, as you probably know utorrent is a very simple application.
    I can't imagine what else is interfering with it. It's doubtful it's a registry setting as utorrent doesn't even need them to operate.
      My Computer


  10. Posts : 92
    Windows 7 x64
    Thread Starter
       #10

    I would say that it's not exactly µTorrent's issue. As I wrote similar delays appear in other apps/situations also. Just µTorrent is a good client to demonstrate the behaviour on. I suppose that this problem is more system wide, something interfering or blocking deleting files. I observe a longer delay not observed earlier on Firefox browser when starting a new download. The browser freezes for about 15s (not always but often). I really don't get an idea where I should start to find the problem source. Maybe event log? Some kind of debugging on the µTorrent case? Any profiler, diag tool that could analyze why the mentioned apps stay so long unresponsible? The only common factor of all those situations that they deal with file deleting operations, maybe creating also.
      My Computer


 
Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

  Related Discussions
Our Sites
Site Links
About Us
Windows 7 Forums is an independent web site and has not been authorized, sponsored, or otherwise approved by Microsoft Corporation. "Windows 7" and related materials are trademarks of Microsoft Corp.

© Designer Media Ltd
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 17:42.
Find Us