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Windows 7: What don't you like about Windows 7?

29 May 2010   #1661
archie123

Win 10 Home Premium 64 Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lordbob75 View Post
The RC is kinda glitchy for me now. It doesn't seem to like steam or Left 4 dead.
*sigh*

~Lordbob
and nothings changed there , 64 bit win 7 still hates steam , although it seems to be steams fault and they still aint sorted it :P


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29 May 2010   #1662
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 
A couple of points

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I discovered that Windows Explorer doesn't actually show you the files that are in your Fonts folder (on my PC anyway).
A couple of months ago I copied the extra fonts that I have in XP, to Windows 7 (files copied using FreeCommander).
You should not use anything other than "Windows Explorer" to copy fonts into the Fonts folder. Fonts have to be installed. Just copying them into the folder does not install them or make them available to every application.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
Recently, I checked the Fonts folder (via the Control Panel) and I noticed that most of my fonts seemed to be missing.
I used Windows Explorer to check the folder, with the same result, then I opened the Command Prompt, did a "dir" on the folder and the "missing" fonts (plus some text files) were all listed!
This is normal. Fonts are protected so they don't get deleted and/or if they are not completely compatible they don't list in some places.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
Some programs were able to use the unlisted fonts, but others weren't (e.g. Word)!
I had to use the "install Font" procedure before Word would acknowledge their existence.
This is why you need to use "Windows Explorer"
OK. Fair enough. C'est la vie.

Windows Explorer doesn't have a decent multi-rename function and it won't do file/folder comparisons.
It doesn't have multiple columns/tabs, to make file transfers between folders easier.
Having to select 200 fonts individually (from 700 files in the folder) and copy them using Windows Explorer is a PITA.
It's OK for basic file management though.

My file structure has literally hundreds of folders and sub-folders, built up over many years:
  • Documents - 1493 folders, 16404 files
  • Pictures - 1144 folders, 16551 files
  • Music - 726 folders, 5723 files
  • Video - 211 folders, 1718 files
Try navigating up and down that lot with the Windows Explorer tree (it gets old real quick).

Nobody mentioned that the font system worked differently in Windows 7 compared to XP.
In XP:
  • All that I had to do was copy/unzip the font file to the Fonts folder.
  • Office 2007 acknowledges the existence of all my font files without any additional work on my part.
That is only an inconvenience (now that I know it has changed, I can respond appropriately).

My real worry was that malware could hide in the Fonts folder and it would be "invisible" to most users (i.e. users who don't know about the Command Prompt).
It would have been nice to have been warned, that the Fonts folder could have "invisible" files in it (something like a screen tip when the mouse pointer is over it).

BTW I am not attacking you.
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29 May 2010   #1663
logicearth

Windows 10 Pro (x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
My real worry was that malware could hide in the Fonts folder and it would be "invisible" to most users (i.e. users who don't know about the Command Prompt).
Malware is already invisible to most users even if they go looking for it. The files for malware look no different then any other file on your computer. This is why we have malware scanners. Malware could hide its file in a log directory and you would not even know, would you? It could still have the same ".log" extension and everything.
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29 May 2010   #1664
kucing13

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
My real worry was that malware could hide in the Fonts folder and it would be "invisible" to most users (i.e. users who don't know about the Command Prompt).
they could be anywhere. their favorite place so far usually temp folder and system 32,that is based on my exp
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29 May 2010   #1665
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 
Agreed but...

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
My real worry was that malware could hide in the Fonts folder and it would be "invisible" to most users (i.e. users who don't know about the Command Prompt).
Malware is already invisible to most users even if they go looking for it. The files for malware look no different then any other file on your computer. This is why we have malware scanners. Malware could hide its file in a log directory and you would not even know, would you? It could still have the same ".log" extension and everything.
Agreed, but if I saw a log file running in Task Manager or Process Explorer, I would be suspicious (not much help for the average user though).
I have encountered malware that couldn't be removed by my anti-malware programs (back in the bad old Windows 98 days) and I had to hunt down the files and registry entries myself (painful).

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
My real worry was that malware could hide in the Fonts folder and it would be "invisible" to most users (i.e. users who don't know about the Command Prompt).
they could be anywhere. their favorite place so far usually temp folder and system 32,that is based on my exp
Agreed, that's where they usually hide.
In the past, I have seen mysterious processes running (in Task Manager or Process Explorer) and I have navigated to the location using Windows Explorer and then killed the offending file.
I have had malware install itself in the saved game directory of a game (conventional not online).

Obviously those were amateur malware attempts.

My opinion is that a file manager should show you the files that are on your system.
It shouldn't just decide at random that "you don't need to know".
That's one of the things that Linux users complain about Windows doing (Windows knows best, hands-off stupid user).

How many other folders exhibit the same behaviour as the Fonts folder?
I can view files in the System folders (assuming that I choose the appropriate folder options).
If any files should be "invisible", surely it should be the System files.
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29 May 2010   #1666
kucing13

 

and it worst when they disguise as system process

some of them would disguise as

smss.exe
crscs.exe
rsvchost.exe

their name almost the same as the real system process sometimes and they working behind eating all your memory,making your pc slowing down

and certain virus which works in XP still giving the same effect on seven and even worst

trojan backdoor disable regedit and task manager in xp
however in seven they disable task manager,regedit and explorer.exe. blank desktop when startup
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29 May 2010   #1667
logicearth

Windows 10 Pro (x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
That's one of the things that Linux users complain about Windows doing (Windows knows best, hands-off stupid user).
Linux is for a different group of users. You cannot compare the two like that.
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29 May 2010   #1668
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 
Complaints are personal, but not always logical

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That's one of the things that Linux users complain about Windows doing (Windows knows best, hands-off stupid user).
Linux is for a different group of users. You cannot compare the two like that.
I wasn't making a comparison, just reporting what I have heard on the Internet.
My friend who stopped using Windows ~10 years ago and switched to Linux makes those same complaints (I hear him cursing his Linux PC, so I guess it isn't perfect either).

I wasn't saying that their litany of complaints were or weren't valid (I think that some are and some aren't).

When you build something as complex as an OS, certain decisions have to be made and not everyone will agree with the final result. I am often bewildered about decisions that MS makes, but I am sure that if I made an OS, people would disagree with my choices.

I happen to think that Windows 7 is pretty good (I have only used Vista for about 40 hours, so I can't really comment on it).
I also like XP (Ubuntu 10.04 isn't too bad, just different, which makes it tricky for a Windows user like myself).
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29 May 2010   #1669
smarteyeball

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
My friend who stopped using Windows ~10 years ago and switched to Linux makes those same complaints (I hear him cursing his Linux PC, so I guess it isn't perfect either).
Lol, it isn't, because...


Quote:
When you build something as complex as an OS, certain decisions have to be made and not everyone will agree with the final result.
...that is why No OS can ever be perfect.
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29 May 2010   #1670
Joan Archer

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 32 bit/Windows 10 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by smarteyeball View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
My friend who stopped using Windows ~10 years ago and switched to Linux makes those same complaints (I hear him cursing his Linux PC, so I guess it isn't perfect either).
Lol, it isn't, because...


Quote:
When you build something as complex as an OS, certain decisions have to be made and not everyone will agree with the final result.
...that is why No OS can ever be perfect.
If it was what would all those tweakers do
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