What don't you like about Windows 7?

Those descriptions refer to Vista and 7 (some of them also apply to XP).
The red ones are specific to Windows 7.


If you have changed the "Power" button function in the "Start Menu", then this shortcut will perform that action (instead of Shutdown).

Logo key , →, Enter
Shutdown

I've edited the original post, to correct the error/omission. :)

lehnerus2000 said:

Those descriptions refer to Vista and 7 (some of them also apply to XP).
The red ones are specific to Windows 7.

In your list I think the Logo Key + E will open "Computer" not Libraries in Windows 7 and XP (My Computer)!

kiwichick said:

Hammerhead's "third party file manager" says it all really. With all the free (not even paid for) file managers that offer a million more features than Explorer isn't it about time Microsoft started implementing these features themselves? If someone else is doing it better - catch up. Geez that's not rocket science. And what these other file managers are doing isn't rocket science either - it's not like it's terribly hard stuff that Microsoft is unable to do.

Batch file/folder renaming is one of the biggest peeves I have with Windows and always have. It's one of the few instances when I use another "third party file manager" and it bugs the heck out of me that I have to.

Not being able to decide for myself, me, the user, what I want to have on my Explorer toolbar is another one. Why would I want to have Burn available for every file I click instead of a Delete button? Yes you can add it to the toolbar with a registry tweak but if it can be done in the registry it should be offered in the GUI so people don't have to go there.

And that's probably the thing that peeves me the most - there should be much more user customisation available across the board. And the customisations that can be done should be easier to get to. If there are so many things that can be changed via the registry or other 'hacks' then why not put them in a GUI? If the features are accessible but 'hidden' what's the point of that?????? Adding new features is great but taking old ones out should be done as little as possible and let people have the choice. And 'hiding' them is just dumb. One of the biggest gripes I've seen posted on the net is the lack of a Classic Start Menu option. Apparently Microsoft's answer to people wanting one is "the Classic Start Menu is outdated - move on". Fine attitude that. Microsoft make too many decisions about how I use my computer.

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I second that.

bjproc said:

drumtrucker said:

bjproc said:

A Mail Client for me, i don't want to go down the live route

Thunderbird

the threads about what you don't like about win 7, not other software to add on to it to make it work, like i said in another post.


i've tried TB, didn't like it much, OE/WM was nice and simple, was thinking about upgrading my mums PC to win 7, she's 71 and trying to get her to work another email program would probably be too much for her even when i think it's just a bit too busy/complicated to use

A mail client used to be part of the OS. It's REMOVAL is morned by some. :)

noobvious said:

typ911411and718 said:

oh another thing. the stubborn side panel of the windows...why must i chose from only two options...i really don't want this new "library" thing there...and i certainly don't want to open my pin-up of "my computer" only to find the damn library again...i don't use that thing...why are they trying to annoy the hell out of me......

If you took the time to give the libraries a chance, you might just like it. I was skeptical at first, but I definitely appreciate them now.

I don't complain about Libraries. A lot of people like them. If they do... keep them in. I played with them, but don't like or use them personaly. I disabled them and Prefer they stay that way. Not everyone will like or use all the apps/functions included in the OS. I guess that's the "P" in PC. :)

mitchell65 said:

lehnerus2000 said:

Those descriptions refer to Vista and 7 (some of them also apply to XP).
The red ones are specific to Windows 7.

In your list I think the Logo Key + E will open "Computer" not Libraries in Windows 7 and XP (My Computer)!

My bad!
Thanks mitchell65. :)

I've edited the original post, to correct the error.
With the Taskbar pinning in Windows 7, I don't use Logo Key + E very often (I use it a lot in XP).

cbleman said:

kiwichick said:

Hammerhead's "third party file manager" says it all really. With all the free (not even paid for) file managers that offer a million more features than Explorer isn't it about time Microsoft started implementing these features themselves? If someone else is doing it better - catch up. Geez that's not rocket science. And what these other file managers are doing isn't rocket science either - it's not like it's terribly hard stuff that Microsoft is unable to do.

Batch file/folder renaming is one of the biggest peeves I have with Windows and always have. It's one of the few instances when I use another "third party file manager" and it bugs the heck out of me that I have to.

Not being able to decide for myself, me, the user, what I want to have on my Explorer toolbar is another one. Why would I want to have Burn available for every file I click instead of a Delete button? Yes you can add it to the toolbar with a registry tweak but if it can be done in the registry it should be offered in the GUI so people don't have to go there.

And that's probably the thing that peeves me the most - there should be much more user customisation available across the board. And the customisations that can be done should be easier to get to. If there are so many things that can be changed via the registry or other 'hacks' then why not put them in a GUI? If the features are accessible but 'hidden' what's the point of that?????? Adding new features is great but taking old ones out should be done as little as possible and let people have the choice. And 'hiding' them is just dumb. One of the biggest gripes I've seen posted on the net is the lack of a Classic Start Menu option. Apparently Microsoft's answer to people wanting one is "the Classic Start Menu is outdated - move on". Fine attitude that. Microsoft make too many decisions about how I use my computer.

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I second that.

What peeves me the most are people complaining about things like the missing Classic Menu, the Customizable Explorer Toolbar, Non-Customizable Details Pane, Hidden Features with No GUI etc, etc, ad infinitum!

While some of the complaints are genuine (I, for one, don't miss the Classic Start Menu), what I don't understand is why are people complaining? If I remember correctly, the Windows 7 Public BETA Program was the largest public beta ever conducted by Microsoft, and testers had ample opportunity to voice their concerns or suggest changes.

And don't give me that "But I didn't want to try the beta" rant. With my circle of friends, I was the only one I know that had the guts to try the beta, but many of the suggestions I made via the "Send Feedback" link where made by my friend who where "looking over my shoulder".

My point is this: If not enough people asked for the Classic Start Menu to be included, then Microsoft had no reason to include it. and the same applies for other features also.

So don't go complaining now about something missing when you you had an opportunity to do something about it, but didn't act.

Although I must point out that I was hoping for some of these complaints top be addressed with SP1, which has turned out to be nothing more than a roll-up of the past year's updates. I guess we'll have to wait for SP2 then to be able to customise what info get's displayed in the Explorer Details Pane, or to be able to customize it's toolbar.

kiwichick said:

I thought I quite clearly stated that Microsoft have told people "the Classic Start Menu is outdated - move on". So plenty of people obviously did want it but Microsoft didn't care. And just because they ask for beta feedback doesn't mean they're going to pay any attention to it.

And isn't the whole bottom of this thread the fact that we don't have the CHOICE!!! All we want is to have the CHOICE.

Maybe not enough wanted it for Microsoft to change their minds? But as for Microsoft not listening, I disagree. One item in particular somes to mind, although a small item, shows that Microsoft did pay attention to feedback. In Windows Live Photo Gallery (when it was wtill part of the Windows Beta), hovering over a photo tag only showed the lowest-level tag in the tree assigned to the picture. In later BETAs, it was changed to show the entire tag: "Source Images\Friends\Odile" instead of only "Odile". So yes, after I sent my feedback, I got a positive response, as I did with many other items for which I sent feedback.

And I agree with you about choice. But speaking as a developer. Sometimes the timeline of a project does not allow for the addition of ALL the features and functionality we may want include. If the project release date is pushed back everytime users want a change or a new "feel good" feature added, then the project will never get released.

Or have you forgotten that we had to wait for XP Service Pack 2 to get such features as the Windows Firewall, and notifications about Anti-Virus software, etc?

The first release isn't always what the developer envisioned, and there will always, ALWAYS be something that someone doesn't like or agree with.