| Windows 7: Excessive disk usage |
24 Aug 2011
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Excessive disk usage When I put my computer together, I decided that an 80 GB drive would suffice for the C: drive as the only stuff to be stored would be the operating system and programs. However, the size of C;\Windows seems to grow without bounds - it is currently consuming 31+GB, which is simply ludicrous.
How can this directory be put on a severe diet? | My System Specs |
| OS Windows 7 x64 CPU Core i7 860 @ 3.8 GHz Motherboard MSI P55-GD80 Memory 8 GB F3-12800CL7D (DDR3 1600 7-7-7-24) Graphics Card Sapphire Vapor-X 100283VXL Radeon HD 5770 Monitor(s) Displays NEC LCD3090WQXi-BK |
24 Aug 2011
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| | Windows 7 x64 Ultimate SP1 614 posts Croatia |
Before we go further, could you just tell me how you got that number? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Asus N73SV OS Windows 7 x64 Ultimate SP1 CPU Core i7-2630QM Motherboard Intel HM 65 Memory 6 GB DDR3 Graphics Card Nvidia GT 540M / Intel HD 3000 - Optimus switching Sound Card HD Audio (Intel Azalia/Realtek) ALC269 Monitor(s) Displays LED flat panel Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Hard Drives 2x Seagate Momentus 640 GB - 1,28 TB in total Internet Speed 4 MB/256 kbps Other Info External HDs
WD Elements 1,5 TB
WD MyBook 500 GB |
24 Aug 2011
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 8,025 posts |
Considering that Windows alone takes about 20GB right from square 1, that's 25% of your entire drive. Then all of the apps that you install, plus any games (which can consume lots of space) and an 80GB drive is pretty small.
Also, remember you will likely have a pagefile on C: equal to the amount of RAM you have installed, and you most likely will have a hibernate file also equal to approx your RAM size. So, if you have 4GB of RAM, these two files will consume at least 8GB...so another 10% of your drive.
Finally, system restore points can take quite a bit of space. Right click my computer, properties, system protection, highlight C and click on configure and it will show the usage. I dropped my percentage on my SSD to 2% and am currently using 816MB. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS Internet Speed 15/2 cable modem Other Info Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset. |
24 Aug 2011
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Teerex: I use a utility called WinDirStat
pparks1: With all due respect, research indicates that a base install of Windows 7 only requires 6 GB and that it can be run on a 30 GB drive (including programs). Thus, the fatc that my Windows directory alone is 31+ GB is hard to understand. (On my notebook computer, the Window folder is 24+ GB.) | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 x64 CPU Core i7 860 @ 3.8 GHz Motherboard MSI P55-GD80 Memory 8 GB F3-12800CL7D (DDR3 1600 7-7-7-24) Graphics Card Sapphire Vapor-X 100283VXL Radeon HD 5770 Monitor(s) Displays NEC LCD3090WQXi-BK |
24 Aug 2011
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| | Windows 7 32 bit 3,135 posts |
Windows system drive does have a tendency to grow. I'm assuming you have another drive or partition available. If so, methods to limit growth of C: include:
a)install portable apps on the other drive as much as possible
For example, CCleaner portable works just as well as CCleaner installed version.
Many text editors, av scanners and other utilities have portable versions.
b) put your page file on the other(preferably physical) drive.
Since you have 8 GB ram, if you run "lightweight" apps page file use may be negligible.
If you only have one physical disk keeping it on C: may reduce thrashing. Otherwise,
stick it on the other physical drive instead.
c)limit restore point usage as suggested.
Use image backup programs to save system images to an external USB and only use a couple of Restore Points. You can use CCleaner(portable) to keep restore points cleaned manually as well as setting the max drive usage in the system protection settings. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Media Center OS Windows 7 32 bit CPU AMD 5200+ dual core Memory 2 GB Graphics Card NVidia GeForce 6150SE 128 MB Monitor(s) Displays CRT Screen Resolution 1280x1024 Keyboard PS/2 Mouse PS/2 Wheel Mouse Hard Drives 500 GB Sata internal :
SIIG USB 3.0 docking stations w/WD Caviar Black 6 Gb/s drives Other Info SIIG USB 3.0 PCIexpress card. |
24 Aug 2011
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| | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit 7,566 posts |
What leads you to believe anything is amiss? Perhaps you just have a lot of programs installed?
I have an 80 gig SSD containing only Windows 7 Home Premium SP 1 and installed applications. C currently occupies 24 GB, of which 16 GB is in the Windows directory.
Going from memory, a base Windows 7 SP 1 Home Premium installation, fully updated, occupies between 15 and 20 GB? I do seem to recall that the bare minimum Windows 7, without SP 1 and without updates, is somewhere under 10 GB.
The usual suspects for runaway size are hibernation, page file, and system restore, but we have seen some oddball situations. I'd consult WinDirStat---what does it tell you? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load |
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Maybe I was not clear: The single folder C:\Windows is consuming 31+ GB of hard drive space alone. I am not concerned about hard drive space from the pagefile, Program Files, etc - those I fully understand. What I do not understand is why the OS directory is constantly growing and is so large.
WinDirStat shows the following: - .dll: 19.0 GB (largely due to winsxs, I believe)
- .sys: 8.4 GB (most of this from pagefile)
- .msp: 5.4 GB
- .pak: 3.8 GB
- .cab: 3.1 GB
- .exe: 2.9 GB
- .msi: 2.5 GB
- .hxs: 2.0 GB
One needs to ask why the .msp, .pak, .msi, .cab, and .hxs are all being stored...
In the C:\Windows folder, the subfolders Installer and winsxs each account for ~11 GB of storage. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 x64 CPU Core i7 860 @ 3.8 GHz Motherboard MSI P55-GD80 Memory 8 GB F3-12800CL7D (DDR3 1600 7-7-7-24) Graphics Card Sapphire Vapor-X 100283VXL Radeon HD 5770 Monitor(s) Displays NEC LCD3090WQXi-BK |
24 Aug 2011
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| | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit 7,566 posts |
Just for comparison:
My Installer folder is 1.5 GB
My winsxx folder is 6.4 GB
I did not run WinDirStat, but I ran dir /s *.dll from a command prompt and it showed 10.7 GB.
I apparently have NO .pak files on my drive--at least I can't find any using dir command. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load |
24 Aug 2011
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| | Windows 7 x64 Ultimate SP1 614 posts Croatia |

Quote: Originally Posted by GRoston Teerex: I use a utility called WinDirStat
pparks1: With all due respect, research indicates that a base install of Windows 7 only requires 6 GB and that it can be run on a 30 GB drive (including programs). Thus, the fatc that my Windows directory alone is 31+ GB is hard to understand. (On my notebook computer, the Window folder is 24+ GB.) Have you installed SP1? Did you clean up after it?
You might have an abnormal situation there, used space on my system partition, with programs, MSOcache, user files, pagefile and hiberfil (6 GB RAM) is 44,7 GB. What's yours? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Asus N73SV OS Windows 7 x64 Ultimate SP1 CPU Core i7-2630QM Motherboard Intel HM 65 Memory 6 GB DDR3 Graphics Card Nvidia GT 540M / Intel HD 3000 - Optimus switching Sound Card HD Audio (Intel Azalia/Realtek) ALC269 Monitor(s) Displays LED flat panel Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Hard Drives 2x Seagate Momentus 640 GB - 1,28 TB in total Internet Speed 4 MB/256 kbps Other Info External HDs
WD Elements 1,5 TB
WD MyBook 500 GB |
24 Aug 2011
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| | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 17,869 posts Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
Quote: research indicates that a base install of Windows 7 only requires 6 I have never seen that. The smallest of my four Win7s (a 32bit) is about 18GBs - and that is without hiberfile. But what is the problem. You should be fine with an 80GB drive. I run my systems with SSDs ranging from 60GB to 90GB (for a laptop with only 1 drive).
But you apparently have a desktop. For pennies you can add a big drive. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 Excessive disk usage problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:36 PM. | |