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Windows 7: Shrink OS Volume

22 Sep 2011   #71
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

CBM, stick around. We will have a lot of fun together. And in no time you will become a geek.


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22 Sep 2011   #72
CBM

1.Windows 7 Ultimate x64; 2.Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
CBM, stick around. We will have a lot of fun together. And in no time you will become a geek.
Thank you, whs. I'll certainly do that. By the way, check out my new thread located here:

External Drive Problem After Creating Macrium Rescue Disc

I lost my external drive recognition once before but I forget what caused it and how I fixed it; however, this situation is entirely different.

C.B.
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25 Sep 2011   #73
arkhi

Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195
 
 

nvm~ please ignore post.
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25 Sep 2011   #74
alan10

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit SP1 x64
 
 

I think you are spitting in the Wind if you expect a reduced size partition to speed up an Acronis INTELLIGENT backup which excludes all unused space.
Only a complete FORENSIC copy (or whatever they call it) will spend time copying all the deleted files that lurk in what is called FREE SPACE.

The last time I used Acronis I found that it defragged all the files as it restored the image, and there was no free space until after all the files.
No unmoveable files stick to the original position whilst Acronis restores a backup.
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25 Sep 2011   #75
CBM

1.Windows 7 Ultimate x64; 2.Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by alan10 View Post
I think you are spitting in the Wind if you expect a reduced size partition to speed up an Acronis INTELLIGENT backup which excludes all unused space.
Only a complete FORENSIC copy (or whatever they call it) will spend time copying all the deleted files that lurk in what is called FREE SPACE.

The last time I used Acronis I found that it defragged all the files as it restored the image, and there was no free space until after all the files.
No unmoveable files stick to the original position whilst Acronis restores a backup.

The only thing I do know is that Acronis TIH 2011 and TIH 2012 took two hours to complete before I reduced my OS partition from appx. 900GB to 201GB. After the shrinking of the OS partition it took appx. thirty minutes.

C.B.
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27 Sep 2011   #76
alan10

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit SP1 x64
 
 

What were the sizes of the backup image files before and after shrinking ?
Your result would be consistent with Acronis backing up the unused free space in C:\
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27 Sep 2011   #77
CBM

1.Windows 7 Ultimate x64; 2.Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by alan10 View Post
What were the sizes of the backup image files before and after shrinking ?
Your result would be consistent with Acronis backing up the unused free space in C:\
I don't recall. Short term memory is something that most people enjoy but I can only dream of. I always did full image backups, overwriting each backup with the next one. I had no need for differential or incremental backups as I keep all my personal files on two external drives, each external drive containing the same information in the event one of the externals takes a crap. I wasn't concerned with the size of the backups and never paid any attention to that particular detail. My only concerns were backing up the OS and that the backups were valid, and to a lesser extent the time it took them to complete. The only good thing I can say about Acronis TIH is that each time I used a backup to recover the system it performed flawlessly.

I have since uninstalled Acronis TIH 2012 and all Acronis backups. I've had Acronis TIH 2010, 2011 and 2012 and had problems with each version. I won't be using Acronis in the future. I now use Paragon and the native Windows Backup and Restore.

C.B.
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27 Sep 2011   #78
CBM

1.Windows 7 Ultimate x64; 2.Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

It's not too often that someone will reinstall an OS on a new laptop that is only eleven days old but I was determined to get my 32-bit gadgets working on my 64-bit laptop. I first did a clean install using the Dell reinstallation DVD because it contains no bloatware, placing the OS on the already existing reduced size OS partition, which had been reduced to 200GB using Partition Wizard, instead of reformatting the entire drive, leaving the recovery partition in place. The Dell supplied Drivers and Utilities DVD did not work properly, switching from English to Russian to Swedish to etc, etc, etc. so I again reinstalled using the recovery partition. I'm thankful that I had left the recovery partition in place because the only backups I had were based on the drive status before using Partition Wizard and I wasn't sure an image of the OS partition made before I reduced its size would work on the reduced size OS partition.

Once I had reinstalled all my third party software on the recovered drive I decided to once again use Partition Wizard, which performed quickly and flawlessly the first time, to reduce my C drive OS partition to 200 GB. I decided to do a Windows Backup and Recovery backup first, which I placed on my D drive, a separate drive. It took only 15 minutes to complete. I also created a repair DVD using the same application. This time around Partition Wizard, during the resizing process, stopped working appx. 75% of the way to completion and produced an error code, of which I neglected to write down. It left a stretch of unallocated space, 12GB in size, on the left side of my OS partition, next to the recovery partition, in addition to the expected unallocated space to the right of the resized OS partition. After my attempts to merge this orphaned space into my OS partition on two occasions I ended up with the Dell boot initiator partition, the recovery partition, my OS partition and four additional logical partitions of various sizes, to the left and right of the OS partition. Talk about self-induced FUBAR! I was amazed at my incompetency. Live and learn.

I decided to do a restore using the Dell DataSafe application but it wanted to reformat the entire C drive, eliminating the factory recovery partition. I don't need the Dell recovery partition but I always leave it in place because it takes up so little of my drive space. In addition, as everyone reading my prior posts in this thread knows, the Dell recovery partition is the active partition, not the OS partition. I didn't want to go through the hassle of using the recovery partition and once again spending hour after hour reinstalling my third party software so I used the Windows Backup and Restore backup, along with the repair DVD I had made before the attempt to reduce the size of my OS partition. Again, I wasn't certain that the larger OS Windows B&R image would successfully work on the reduced size OS partition.

I selected the Windows B&R image made just before the Partition Wizard resizing attempt, along with the Windows B&R produced repair DVD, to fix the self-inflicted damage. It took only fifteen minutes to complete and my C drive was returned to its initial state. I was amazed at the simplicity of use and the successful repair of my C drive by the Windows backup and Windows B&R produced repair DVD. I'm going to leave the C drive just as it is, the same way it came from Dell.

I am in no way badmouthing Partition Wizard. Whatever caused the mess I experienced was undoubtedly initiated by my actions in one way or another, even though I had successfully, and without any problems, used Partition Wizard previously. How does that old saying go? Ah yes, I remember; most computer problems are caused by what is situated between the chair and the computer.

My 32-bit gadgets are now working on my 64-bit laptop, just as they have always worked on my 64-bit desktop. I had made a registry change with the desktop to get them to work; however, I made no registry changes on the laptop this time, as I had done the first time. Upon reinstallation of the laptop OS there was no 64-bit sidebar process running, as verified by using Task Manager. I uninstalled all the 64-bit gadgets that came with the OS and restarted the laptop. I then checked Task Manager again to verify that no 64-bit sidebar process was running and went to my x86 Program Files and executed the sidebar process from there. I checked the registry under HKCU>Software>Microsoft>Windows>CurrentVersion>Run and found that the 32-bit sidebar entry had been automatically produced. I added the 32-bit gadgets to my desktop and they work perfectly.

Once again, I thank all those who have previously assisted me with my problems. I don't know what I would have done without your knowledge and your willingness to help. You have my respect and admiration.

I made this post for one reason and one reason only and that is to acknowledge that stupidity and ignorance can be overcome with a little effort and common sense.

C.B.
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27 Sep 2011   #79
Kaktussoft

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

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Making Shrink Volume Work
To absolutely ensure that you can shrink the volume, you should disable as many of the system files as you can, at least temporarily. Here’s the list of steps:
  1. Run the Disk Cleanup Wizard, making sure to remove the hibernation file and all restore points.
  2. Disable System Restore
  3. Disable the pagefile ( Open up System in Control Panel, then Advanced System Settings \ Advanced \ Performance \ Advanced \ Change \ No Paging File.
  4. In the same Advanced Settings, go to Startup and Recovery \ Settings and then change the Write debugging information drop-down to “None” to disable the kernel memory dump.
  5. Disable Hibernation mode in your power options \ advanced power options screen.
  6. Reboot the machine, and then delete your c:\pagefile.sys file, following these instructions if you are having issues.
Now that we’ve deleted almost every system file that we can, you should run at least devicemanager to shrink the volume
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27 Sep 2011   #80
CBM

1.Windows 7 Ultimate x64; 2.Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kaktussoft View Post
Making Shrink Volume Work
To absolutely ensure that you can shrink the volume, you should disable as many of the system files as you can, at least temporarily. Here’s the list of steps:
  1. Run the Disk Cleanup Wizard, making sure to remove the hibernation file and all restore points.
  2. Disable System Restore
  3. Disable the pagefile ( Open up System in Control Panel, then Advanced System Settings \ Advanced \ Performance \ Advanced \ Change \ No Paging File.
  4. In the same Advanced Settings, go to Startup and Recovery \ Settings and then change the Write debugging information drop-down to “None” to disable the kernel memory dump.
  5. Disable Hibernation mode in your power options \ advanced power options screen.
  6. Reboot the machine, and then delete your c:\pagefile.sys file, following these instructions if you are having issues.
Now that we’ve deleted almost every system file that we can, you should run at least devicemanager to shrink the volume
Thank you Kaktussoft, for your reply. I tried all that before I ended up using Partition Wizard, which performed quite admirably. The immovable files could not be moved beyond a certain point, which did not allow me to shrink the OS partition down to where I wanted it. I also defragged using MyDefrag and PerfectDisk 2011, which accomplished nothing.

C.B.
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