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Windows 7: Need Help Fixing Split Hard Disk install Problem

28 Sep 2011   #1
Foz

Windows 7 64
 
 
Need Help Fixing Split Hard Disk install Problem

Hi all

I recently built a new machine and installed Windows 7. Install went flawlessly and everything has been working great.

Now that I have most of my software on the new machine I attempted to make a clone of my c drive (1 tb samsung spinpoint) to an identical second drive in my machine.

However, when I looked I did not have a second drive listed as a installed D: drive in my windows installation. Both new drives were installed straight out of the box before the OS was installed. Check out Disk management screen shot
Need Help Fixing Split Hard Disk install Problem-disk1.png

As you can see my bios and windows see there are two physical hard drives installed, but for some reason it split the system volume data from the rest of the OS data. It places them on two separate hard drives.

The problem with this is I typically clone my c drive onto my d drive to serve as a complete bootable backup of my main drive. In its current state, if I clone my C drive onto my second physical drive I will wipe most of my windows install.

Therefore I am looking for help in getting all the data on one drive without doing a complete reinstall. From my simplistic perspective it appears all I need to do is make a D: partition on Disk0 and transfer the contents of the C: drive(disk1) to the D: Drive(disk0).

I have attempted this but some files would not transfer because they were in use. I was also concerned with disk0 boot issues using this method. Also with this partition (disk0) labeled disk D: wouldn't that cause boot issues?

At any rate, I am looking for any suggestions on the best way to correct this issue.

Thanks for the help

Foz




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28 Sep 2011   #2
JaidynM

Windows 7 Ultimate x64/Windows 8 Consumer Preview x64/Ubuntu 11.04
 
 

Technically, you only have one usable hard drive as the second identical hard drive is unallocated space. So you don't really have a D: drive, only a C: drive for your OS. What you would want to do is make a new partition using the 931.41GB unallocated space. This will allow you to use that space and should fix at least some of your problems.
Partition or Volume - Create New
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28 Sep 2011   #3
Foz

Windows 7 64
 
 

Hiya Jaidynm

Thanks for the response.

It doesn't show it in the disk management pic i posted but I have basically done as you suggested before I made this post. I turned the unalocated space on disk0 into a partition and gave it a drive letter D.

That works fine but I then need to move the data on Drive C: to Drive D: or move the system partition to drive C: That is where I need the help on getting the data moved and getting the one disk to boot without the additional disk.

The goal is one physical disk with all os and system data on it so I can make a duplicate of the first physical disk on the second physical disk as a backup.

If I would have known there might be an issue I would have only installed one physical drive before the os installation instead of both of them

Foz
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28 Sep 2011   #4
Corazon

Windows 7 Professional SP1 32-bit
 
 

I think I'd use Easeus Partition Master from a bootable CD (or other favorite partition manager) and either move the OS partition on Disk 1 a bit to the right, then copy the 100MB boot partition from Disk 0 over to Disk 1 in front of the OS.
Or: just copy the whole OS partition from Disk 1 to the empty space on Disk 0 and leave the boot partition in place.
(I'm not sure which of your drives is which, so I'm going by what your screenshot shows). Once that's done, be sure to mark the disk you're going to use for backups as not active (maybe quick-format the partitions on it too).

After that I would shut down the PC, temporarily unplug the second drive (whichever one you'll be using to backup later), restart with the Windows 7 DVD in your CDROM drive and perform the startup repair so the OS will boot properly. When that's out of the way you can reconnect the second drive and things should be the way you want them.
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29 Sep 2011   #5
JaidynM

Windows 7 Ultimate x64/Windows 8 Consumer Preview x64/Ubuntu 11.04
 
 

I would clone the first hard drive using one of the programs below. Personally, I would recommend software like Acronis True Image or if you want something free, EaseUS Todo Backup Free.
Acronis True Image
EaseUS Todo Backup Free
Clonezilla
Macrium Reflect FREE

You could then use Windows Easy Transfer to transfer your user files and settings from the original OS to the backup one.
Windows Easy Transfer - Transfer To & From Computers
Windows Easy Transfer - Windows 7 features - Microsoft Windows


Now, if the OS is fully functional, I would run every possible repair option including an sfc/scannow command, Repair Install and Startup Repair.
SFC /SCANNOW Command - System File CheckerRepair Install
Startup Repair
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29 Sep 2011   #6
TJG

Windows 7 Home Premium 32bits
 
 

If I may, I'd like to ask why is disk 0 dynamic and disk 1 Basic ??? The answer may be simple and I just don't
understand. If so forgive me for intruding.

TJG
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05 Oct 2011   #7
Foz

Windows 7 64
 
 

Hi all

Thanks for all the suggestions.

I moved the os install off of disk1 to disk0 so I had the system volume and the os on disk0

I then tried to use the windows disk to repair my windows installation. However, when I got to the part where I pick an os to repair during the repair process, I did not have any os listed. I tried loading various hd drivers and such to no avail.

I eventually just started from scratch..I took out one of the drives and formatted the one drive left in the machine. I then reinstalled windows and now I do not have a system volume at all. After reading the advantages and disadvantages of having a system volume, I have decided to leave it as is.

I assume that the original problem occurred because I installed windows on a machine containing two out-of-the-box hard drives instead of just one? I still don't understand why the install program would want to split the system volume from the os portion.

At any rate, live and learn.

Thanks for all the suggestions and help.

Foz
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05 Oct 2011   #8
theog

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

ME/XP/Vista/Win7
 
 

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05 Oct 2011   #9
gregrocker

 

Having the System Reserved derailed to the first HD during install is not unusual as we fix it here a lot. However having it strangely appear as Dynamic requires correction using the known methods which we use here regularly.

Mark the Win7 partition Active in Disk Management or using Diskpart: Partition - Mark as Active

Power down to Unplug DISK0 and swap its cable to the Win7 HD, make sure that HD remains first HD to boot in BIOS setup - after DVD drive.

Now boot the Win7 DVD Repair console or System Repair Disc - Create to run Startup Repair - Run 3 Separate Times until Win7 boots on its own - to write the System boot files to Win7 partition.

Then replace the other HD as Disk1 and clean it to remove the Dynamic formatting: Clean and Clean All with Diskpart Command
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05 Oct 2011   #10
theog

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

ME/XP/Vista/Win7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Having the System Reserved derailed to the first HD during install is not unusual as we fix it here a lot. However having it strangely appear as Dynamic requires correction using the known methods which we use here regularly.

Mark the Win7 partition Active in Disk Management or using Diskpart: Partition - Mark as Active

Power down to Unplug DISK0 and swap its cable to the Win7 HD, make sure that HD remains first HD to boot in BIOS setup - after DVD drive.

Now boot the Win7 DVD Repair console or System Repair Disc - Create to run Startup Repair - Run 3 Separate Times until Win7 boots on its own - to write the System boot files to Win7 partition.

Then replace the other HD as Disk1 and clean it to remove the Dynamic formatting: Clean and Clean All with Diskpart Command

Why?
OP has already reinstalled to a MBR Hd Drive setup.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Foz View Post
Hi all

Thanks for all the suggestions.

I moved the os install off of disk1 to disk0 so I had the system volume and the os on disk0

I then tried to use the windows disk to repair my windows installation. However, when I got to the part where I pick an os to repair during the repair process, I did not have any os listed. I tried loading various hd drivers and such to no avail.

I eventually just started from scratch..I took out one of the drives and formatted the one drive left in the machine. I then reinstalled windows and now I do not have a system volume at all. After reading the advantages and disadvantages of having a system volume, I have decided to leave it as is.

I assume that the original problem occurred because I installed windows on a machine containing two out-of-the-box hard drives instead of just one? I still don't understand why the install program would want to split the system volume from the os portion.

At any rate, live and learn.

Thanks for all the suggestions and help.

Foz
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