Windows 7 reinstall to reset the re-arms! This legal?

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  1. Posts : 2,111
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       #21

    Antman said:
    Anything anyone does under any circumstance is neither legal nor illegal until there is a complainant, petitioner or plaintiff and the due procees of law is applied. A court decides. Often, the cost of prosecution is weighed against a perceived loss when considering a remedy for that loss.

    I am sincerely curious... can you provide me any examples of an individual prosecuted for using an "illegal" copy of Windows?
    Nope.
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  2. Posts : 11,840
    64-bit Windows 8.1 Pro
       #22

    That sounds like the old adage, "its only illegal if they catch ya".. pure sophistry ..
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  3. Posts : 8,476
    Windows® 8 Pro (64-bit)
       #23

    In my opinion, its legal.
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  4.    #24

    zigzag3143 said:
    Mani

    You need to pay a little more attn to the ppl helping you. this is the third thread where it wans't settled to you satisfaction so you started getting a little testy. Thats not the way to continue getting help

    Just a heads up no offense meant

    \Ken
    Third thread where it wasn't settled to my satisfaction? This thread has been settled to my satisfaction and so have all the others. I have only started 6 threads, and if you read them all, especially these:

    Windows 7 Aero Peak Too Slow! Help!

    and this:

    Windows 7 Bootable Image

    you will see other people saying how it has also helped them in amongst the posts.

    Well I didn't know I was "getty testy". I have always thanked people who helped answer my questions and to others I'd like to think I've been polite. =)

    Mani
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  5.    #25

    dinesh said:
    In my opinion, its legal.
    To get back on topic, I think Antman has cleared it up by quoting from the EULA saying it's not legal! :)
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  6. Posts : 2,111
    Win7 Build 7600 x86
       #26

    Mani said:
    Third thread where it wasn't settled to my satisfaction? This thread has been settled to my satisfaction and so have all the others. I have only started 6 threads, and if you read them all, especially these:

    Windows 7 Aero Peak Too Slow! Help!

    and this:

    Windows 7 Bootable Image

    you will see other people saying how it has also helped them in amongst the posts.

    Well I didn't know I was "getty testy". I have always thanked people who helped answer my questions and to others I'd like to think I've been polite. =)
    From what I read from you in this post, you did nothing wrong in my eyes.
    And you did thank everyone.

    Don't know where this hostility towards you comes from.
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  7. Posts : 4,573
       #27

    Tews said:
    That sounds like the old adage, "its only illegal if they catch ya".. pure sophistry ..
    Not at all. There is a difference between an actionable cause and a legal affect. Using software in violation of the EULA is an actionable cause. Without a complainant, there is no legal affect. Ex parte opinions notwithstanding.
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  8. Posts : 2,111
    Win7 Build 7600 x86
       #28

    Mani said:
    To get back on topic, I think Antman has cleared it up by quoting from the EULA saying it's not legal! :)
    There is nothing in that screenshot mentioning re-arming, so it doesn't say it is illegal.

    It speaks about activation.

    Using it 30 days and rearm it 3 times is perfectly legal. It doesn't say if reinstalling after 120 days is illegal, but I just guess it is.

    Now it has also been stated in this thread that having the RTM on your computer is illegal.

    I highly doubt that.
    The only difference between evaluating a original copy and rearming it, and this RTM we have almost all downloaded, is the way it came to us.



    Lets not be hypocrites here.

    If I got 5 bucks for every RTM running on computers of sevenforum users, I'd be a rich man.
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  9. Posts : 11,840
    64-bit Windows 8.1 Pro
       #29

    Antman said:
    Not at all. There is a difference between an actionable cause and a legal affect. Using software in violation of the EULA is an actionable cause. Without a complainant, there is no legal affect. Ex parte opinions notwithstanding.
    Robbing a bank is an actionable cause, however the fact that I get away without being detected, resulting in no complaint, does not negate the fact that what I did was against the laws and mores of the society in which said bank was located ...
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  10. Posts : 4,573
       #30

    Tews said:
    Robbing a bank is an actionable cause, however the fact that I get away without being detected, resulting in no complaint, does not negate the fact that what I did was against the laws and mores of the society in which said bank was located ...
    Apples and oranges. Violation of a "EULA" is a civil matter governed under jurisdictional contract law. Bank robbery is a specific violation of the applicable criminal code.

    Example: You contract a licensed plumber to install a toilet. Later, you determine that it leaks. You cannot have the plumber arrested. You can seek compensatory redress in a civil court. Let's say you win a judgement. The plumber fails to pay you within the alloted time. You file a Motion To Show Cause and the Court determines that the Respondent (plumber) has no qualifying cause. At that time, the Court can arrest the plumber, but only for contempt of court - under the rules of the criminal code.

    From the "EULA":

    These license terms are an agreement between Microsoft Corporation (or based on where you live, one of its affiliates) and you.

    A contract.
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