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Windows 7: UAC - (palm face)


01 Aug 2009   #1

Windows 7 32-bit Build 7100
 
 
SOLVED - UAC - (palm face)

First of all let me say that I love Windows 7 and I'm not here to bash the OS by any means, but the UAC has got me wanting to shoot myself as of right now. It's quite ridiculous that I have to run EVERY application as an "admin."

This pretty much means that I can't have 1 single startup program or else it will not work correctly with the applications that I run as an administrator, which include just about everything on my system. From WoW to XFire they all have to be ran as an admin or they simply just won't start.

This boggles my brain that I have to manually start all my programs on startup because windows simply can't let me freely explore whatever software I want. If I wanted a babysitter to hold my hand as I consulted with every application I come in contact with I wouldn't be an admin, would I?

I guess my question is, is there a way around this? Perhaps just simply shutting it all off so I can have a normal computer experience?

Thanks for the replies in advance.


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02 Aug 2009   #2

 

if it bothers you then turn it off.
open the control panel, then type "uac" in the search box at the top
just move the slider to change the setting.
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02 Aug 2009   #3

Windows 7 32-bit Build 7100
 
 

See I've done this, but it still won't start my applications.. the ONLY way it starts my program up is if I run it as an administrator, so I find it kind of weird that it won't start unless I run it as an admin.
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02 Aug 2009   #4

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by bleeb View Post
See I've done this, but it still won't start my applications.. the ONLY way it starts my program up is if I run it as an administrator, so I find it kind of weird that it won't start unless I run it as an admin.
Hi Bleeb,

You need to restart after disabling UAC

Steven
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02 Aug 2009   #5

Windows 7 32-bit Build 7100
 
 

I will give the restart a try thank you.
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02 Aug 2009   #6

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by bleeb View Post
I will give the restart a try thank you.
If it doesn't work, we'll check your token elevation type
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02 Aug 2009   #7

Windows 7 32-bit Build 7100
 
 

Didn't work, UAC is off, but WoW still will not start without being ran as admin. (I'm just using WoW as my demo program, many others require the same action)

Now with UAC off also, WoW won't start even if I choose, "Run as Administrator" I'm guessing this is because UAC is completely off and admin option doesn't exist.
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02 Aug 2009   #8

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Sorry Bleeb, but you don't mention which programs it is you are trying to have startup with Windows whenever you login, except for WoW. The only help I can give to try prevent it from having to need "Run as Administrator" is for you to un-install WoW. then re-install it to some other folder other than "C:\Program Files (x86)" or "C:\Program Files".

When you get to the part of the installer that ask for the destination folder, set it to some user-created folder such as "C:\Games\World of Warcraft". This helps with most games.

Failing that, have you checked Blizzard's website for updates to WoW that may resolve this issue? Checking for updates for your other programs may also solve the problem for the others.
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02 Aug 2009   #9

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by bleeb View Post
Now with UAC off also, WoW won't start even if I choose, "Run as Administrator" I'm guessing this is because UAC is completely off and admin option doesn't exist.
It still exists when UAC is disabled but doesn't really do anything...

I just wrote this tool for checking a fair few elevation types using a mix of C#/VB since Im a bit stretched for time... so if you want the source just drop me a PM (GetTokenInformation Function (Windows) // IsUserAnAdmin Function () // OpenProcessToken Function (Windows) ) plus a few more built into .Net.

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I didn't include a manifest so it doesn't auto-elevate, if its showing limited then try right-clicking and running as administrator.

The return values from these tests will help isolate the cause, being it either an API, GroupPolicy setting or the UAC driver itself causing the issues

Steven


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02 Aug 2009   #10

vista x64/ win 7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by bleeb View Post
Now with UAC off also, WoW won't start even if I choose, "Run as Administrator" I'm guessing this is because UAC is completely off and admin option doesn't exist.
one thing that prevents a lot of hassle is to always right after a clean install take ownership,remove the permissions from Windows, Users and the Program Files folders and then add as sole permission either Admin, Username or Everyone.

This effectively negates all security features, but since they're crap anyway you're better off with topgrade heuristic anti-virus/invasion program.
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