| Windows 7: Optimal Personal Folder Structure for Windows 7 |
13 Oct 2011
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#1 | | Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1 |
Optimal Personal Folder Structure for Windows 7 I have confusion and perplexity over the optimal folder structure for Windows 7. I make it a standard practice to put My Documents on a separate drive.
Windows 7 allows you to move the personal folders to a new location, but in both installs where I've tried this using the documented procedures, the Documents folder disappeared and I had to reinstall Windows. So the personal folders stay where they are.
What to do? Use libraries! I decided to put a folder called My Document Center on D: and make it the default for the Documents Library. That should fix the problem, I thought. It hasn't. - C:\Users\UserName\Documents appears in the Documents library. That's fine. I expect it. This seems to be the personal folder. I'd expect it to have nothing in it. But it does have quite a bit of stuff, it seems from program installs. That's not fine. I guess programs put stuff there because they don't use the library.
- Start Menu | UserName takes me to a window that has a "My Documents" folder and a shortcut to a "My Documents" folder, but the shortcut seems to be useless since it tells me I don't have permission to access it, though it indicates I could probably do so through the security tab. That makes me wonder if it is a virtual folder of some sort, though. I'm not sure what its purpose is other than to create confusion.
Question 1: Is there a way to redirect all the stuff that's going into the personal Documents folder?
Question 2: Have you found a better alternative for separating the OS and data?
Dale | My System Specs |
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13 Oct 2011
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#2 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |
I'm sure there is more than one way to skin a cat, but I don't use libraries.
Nor have I ever used the default Microsoft "my documents" or "C:\users" folders.
My OS is on C:
I have a D: data partition and simply have a series of folders on it. I save directly to these folders:
Computer
MP3
Downloads
Pictures
etc, whatever names best apply. I have a total of 8 major folders, with many subfolders under each.
Libraries are just a distraction to me, as is the entire "C:\users" thing. I just sidestep it. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
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14 Oct 2011
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#3 | | Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1 |

Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic Libraries are just a distraction to me, as is the entire "C:\users" thing. I just sidestep it. I'm not sure what I think about libraries yet. I am inclined to think they are a solution in search of a problem. Thus far what I've done is very similar to what you've done. The problem is that programs seem to add things to the personal documents folder on installation at times, and I still wind up with a lot in my personal documents folder that shouldn't be there. That's why I originally tried to move the folder, but from googling the problem, I am not the only one who's discovered that bug apparently.
The structure approach seems good, but how to keep the personal documents folder clean is still a problem.
Dale | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell XPS-15 Notebook OS Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1 CPU Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2720QM CPU @ 2.20GHz Motherboard Dell Inc. Base Board 0NJT03 A00 Memory 8.00 GB Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GT 540M Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Mobile PC Display Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Notebook Keyboard Mouse Microsoft Bluetooth Notebook Mouse 5000 Hard Drives WDC WD7500BPKT-75PK4T0 Internet Speed 8-14 Mbps |
14 Oct 2011
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#4 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by stlsailor The problem is that programs seem to add things to the personal documents folder on installation at times, and I still wind up with a lot in my personal documents folder that shouldn't be there. I"m not sure why that should happen.
I just checked:
C:\users\my user name\my documents.
I assume that is the folder you refer to?
It's empty.
I hadn't even looked there in 6 months. I've never seen anything in it.
I think libraries are for either the highly unorganized or for those who have unusual setups (several PCs on a network; oddball hard drive arrangements, etc). | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load |
14 Oct 2011
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 X64/ linux in VM NW Florida |
I use the libraries and move personal folders to another drive. C:/users/your user name/ documents is a pointer that remains on the C drive. It tells other programs where your C:/users/your user name/ my documents is located. Your documents should be located under my documents and not documents. At least that's how mine works there are 2 tutorials on moving them: Relocate user folders
Use r folders-change default location | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built- Always under construction OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 X64/ linux in VM CPU Intel i7-3770K Motherboard Asus Maximus V Extreme Z77 Memory 8GB G.Skill Ripjaws Z DDR3-2400 (2X4GB) Graphics Card EVGA GTX 670 SC 4GB Sound Card On Board Monitor(s) Displays Asus 24" LCD Screen Resolution 1920X1080 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Logitech G500 PSU CORSAIR AX850 Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Custom Water Cooling Hard Drives Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB, Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB, Samsung 830 256GB, Samsung HD103SJ 1TB . External HD- Black X dock esata 1TB Samsung Spinpoint, Rosewill USB 3.0 dock 1TB Samsung Spinpoint Internet Speed carrier pigeon speed Antivirus MSE/MBAM Browser ie8 Other Info 2nd Rig,Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 X64, i7-2600K, Asrock P67 Extreme 4, 8GB DDR3-2133, HAF XM case, Noctua NH-D14, Gigabyte HD6950 OC 1GB, 2 X Crucial M4 128GB, Asus 24" LED.
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14 Oct 2011
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#6 | | Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1 |
Thanks. I looked at the tutorials. I didn't try to set the default locations before, just used the location tab to move it.
I don't recall about the first computer I moved it on where the documents folder disappeared entirely. I do know on the second computer recently I wanted it to be in the root directory of the D:\ drive so I did what the tutorial said except for one very significant thing. I assumed that if you were going to move a folder, that meant move the folder, not move the contents! So I pointed it to D:\. Bad, bad move, it seems, but move a folder does (SHOULD) mean move a folder and there were no directions at hand to tell me it meant something far different.
I wonder why Microsoft could not have made the procedures simple and intuitive, or the instructions more clear.
I may try again to move the folder sometime after I disk image it; it's confusing as is. On the other hand I've wasted enough productivity so far. At least now I have the procedures and I assume they've worked for you or someone. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell XPS-15 Notebook OS Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1 CPU Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2720QM CPU @ 2.20GHz Motherboard Dell Inc. Base Board 0NJT03 A00 Memory 8.00 GB Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GT 540M Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Mobile PC Display Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Notebook Keyboard Mouse Microsoft Bluetooth Notebook Mouse 5000 Hard Drives WDC WD7500BPKT-75PK4T0 Internet Speed 8-14 Mbps |
14 Oct 2011
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 X64/ linux in VM NW Florida |
I just found C:/users and copied it to my E drive. Then used the location tabs to move it to the folder of the same name on the E drive, then click apply. then click yes. If you don't click yes I believe it will be in both locations. It is easier after a clean install, move the folder locations the put your info in the correct folder in the new location. The folders without location tabs are the pointers. They tell other programs that use those files where they are located. For example, if you use ccleaner, it will want to put backup registry files in C/users/your user name/my documents. That folder does not exist, but the pointer tells it where it is, and it has no problems finding it. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built- Always under construction OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 X64/ linux in VM CPU Intel i7-3770K Motherboard Asus Maximus V Extreme Z77 Memory 8GB G.Skill Ripjaws Z DDR3-2400 (2X4GB) Graphics Card EVGA GTX 670 SC 4GB Sound Card On Board Monitor(s) Displays Asus 24" LCD Screen Resolution 1920X1080 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Logitech G500 PSU CORSAIR AX850 Case Cooler Master HAF X Cooling Custom Water Cooling Hard Drives Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB, Samsung 840 Pro 256 GB, Samsung 830 256GB, Samsung HD103SJ 1TB . External HD- Black X dock esata 1TB Samsung Spinpoint, Rosewill USB 3.0 dock 1TB Samsung Spinpoint Internet Speed carrier pigeon speed Antivirus MSE/MBAM Browser ie8 Other Info 2nd Rig,Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 X64, i7-2600K, Asrock P67 Extreme 4, 8GB DDR3-2133, HAF XM case, Noctua NH-D14, Gigabyte HD6950 OC 1GB, 2 X Crucial M4 128GB, Asus 24" LED.
Laptop- Samsung RF711-SO1 17" i5-2310M, 8GB DDR3-1333, Crucial M4 and OCZ vertex2, Nvidia GT540M.Win 7 HP X64 SP1. |
14 Oct 2011
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#8 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 Newport, South Wales, UK |
My personal folder structure is located on my Data drive under a "MY Stuff" folder - This contains a my Documents, My Videos, etc. but also the desktop, searches and other special folders that are re-locatable using the Locate feature.
I also include these in the libraries which also include Overflow areas for videos where space constraints mean I have to use other drives / partitions for storage
With this set-up I can enter the folders via the Libraries, User Folders or directly.
This set-up has been in this form since Vista and multiple installs of Windows 7, (Libraries added), and machines.
I have never had any issues and where applications add their own folders I tend to leave these in place but set them to hidden, where they do not bother me but remain accessible to the application. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Real World Computing (Me + a little help from Acer) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1035T 2.6 GHz Motherboard Aspire M3400 Memory 4Gb PC10600 DDR3 1333 MHz Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 315 512MB Sound Card OnBoard - Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Philips 32" HDTV, (HDMI) + 26" TV (VGA) Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 @60Hz + 1360 x 768 @60Hz Keyboard Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) Mouse Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) PSU Stock (400W) Case Acer M3400 Cooling Stock Hard Drives 500 GB Seagate ST3500418AS SATA II
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14 Oct 2011
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#9 | | Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1 |

Quote: Originally Posted by essenbe I just found C:/users and copied it to my E drive. Then used the location tabs to move it to the folder of the same name on the E drive, then click apply. then click yes. If you don't click yes I believe it will be in both locations. Do you mean that you copied the entire directory tree including all folders and files to your E:/ drive before you moved the personal folders? Did you copy and move all of the personal folder files, even those just there for compatibility? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell XPS-15 Notebook OS Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1 CPU Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2720QM CPU @ 2.20GHz Motherboard Dell Inc. Base Board 0NJT03 A00 Memory 8.00 GB Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GT 540M Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Mobile PC Display Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Notebook Keyboard Mouse Microsoft Bluetooth Notebook Mouse 5000 Hard Drives WDC WD7500BPKT-75PK4T0 Internet Speed 8-14 Mbps |
14 Oct 2011
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#10 | | Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1 |

Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 My personal folder structure is located on my Data drive under a "MY Stuff" folder - This contains a my Documents, My Videos, etc. but also the desktop, searches and other special folders that are re-locatable using the Locate feature.
I also include these in the libraries which also include Overflow areas for videos where space constraints mean I have to use other drives / partitions for storage
With this set-up I can enter the folders via the Libraries, User Folders or directly. So you used the Move feature to move all the personal folders into "My Stuff?" You had no problem with any of the personal folders disappearing in transit like mine did? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell XPS-15 Notebook OS Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1 CPU Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2720QM CPU @ 2.20GHz Motherboard Dell Inc. Base Board 0NJT03 A00 Memory 8.00 GB Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GT 540M Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Mobile PC Display Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Notebook Keyboard Mouse Microsoft Bluetooth Notebook Mouse 5000 Hard Drives WDC WD7500BPKT-75PK4T0 Internet Speed 8-14 Mbps Optimal Personal Folder Structure for Windows 7 problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:23 AM. | |