| Windows 7: The 32 Bit OS RAM and VRAM Conundrum |
11 Nov 2011
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#1 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 32 Bit Edition |
The 32 Bit OS RAM and VRAM Conundrum So here's my problem; I just installed 2 more GB of RAM to make the grand total 4. All well and good till there. I see that 3.49 GB is usable. That's understandable too because it's a 32 bit operating system. Subsequently however, I recalled that my graphics card had 1GB of video memory. So shouldn't mu usable RAM be 3GB? I ask this because I don't want my graphics memory to be compromised in any way. Is there a tool to check memory allocation between different devices? Can someone explain to me how this works. | My System Specs |
| OS Windows 7 Home Premium 32 Bit Edition CPU Intel Core i3 530 2.93GHz Motherboard Intel DH55TC Memory Corsair 4GB DDR3 1333 MHz Graphics Card EVGA GTS 450 1GB Sound Card N/A |
11 Nov 2011
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#2 | | Window 7 Home Premium 64-bit |
Depends on the video card / hardware. The system doesn't necessarily need to map in texture memory, just display memory and most low-end video cards don't allocate that much memory. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build - Gigabyte P67A-UD3-B3 OS Window 7 Home Premium 64-bit CPU Intel i7-2600 Motherboard Gigabyte P67A-UD3-B3 Memory 16GB DDR3-1666 Graphics Card Zotac Nvidia 295 GTX (Dual GPU) Sound Card Realtek --> SPDIF --> 1200W 7.1 Surround Sound Receiver Monitor(s) Displays LG 24" LCD Monitor Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech G19 Mouse Logitech G500 PSU Rosewill BRONZE Series RBR1000-M 1000W Continuous@40°C Case HEC Blitz Black Steel Edition ATX Mid Tower Computer Chassis Cooling Air Hard Drives OCZ 120GB RevoDrive SSD (2x 55GB [actually 110GB] RAID 0)
2x Seagate Barracuda 2TB HDD
Western Digital 500GB (swap/temp file)
Western Digital 1TB (backup) Internet Speed Cable (20 Mbit) |
11 Nov 2011
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#3 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 32 Bit Edition |
Graphics Card Well, you can see my system specs. What do you reckon? | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium 32 Bit Edition CPU Intel Core i3 530 2.93GHz Motherboard Intel DH55TC Memory Corsair 4GB DDR3 1333 MHz Graphics Card EVGA GTS 450 1GB Sound Card N/A |
11 Nov 2011
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 Mt. Crumpit/Whoville |
Your video card had 1GB of GDDR5 memory, which is graphics double data rate RAM. It won't take from your system RAM and is strictly for graphics use which the CPU can't or won't render.
To see what is using RAM, Start type in resmon, Enter. Choose Memory tab and you can scroll throught the lists and see what and how much memory is used and free. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built Desktop By DataTech OS Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 CPU Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3 Memory 16GB G.Skill Sniper 2133MHz 4x4GB Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX 460 Sound Card Onboard Realtek 5-1 Monitor(s) Displays Samsung P2570HD Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Old, beat-up Dell USB From 10 yrs Ago Mouse Gigabyte m6900 wired PSU Corsair HX650W Case Inwin Dragon Rider Cooling Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM Hard Drives Crucial M4 128GB for OS, 750GB Seagate MomentusXT for data, 500GB Seagate Constellation for storage Internet Speed 8-19 Mbs down, 3-4 Mbs up Comcast Cable Antivirus Norton Internet Security Browser IE 9, Opera when needed Other Info 4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power generator with flux capacitor, 1.21 gigawatts. |
11 Nov 2011
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#5 | | Windows 7 HP / Ultimate x64 USA |
Quote: So shouldn't mu usable RAM be 3GB? I ask this because I don't want my graphics memory to be compromised in any way. Simply put, it isn't compromised in any way. 3.49 GB is usable actually refers to the amount of system memory available for Windows.
The 1GB of memory on your video card remains as a separate entity and is unaffected. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell / Custom OS Windows 7 HP / Ultimate x64 CPU Core i5 / X4 955 BE Motherboard OEM / Gigabyte 880GM-USB3 Memory 4GB DDR3 1333Mhz / 8GB DDR3 1600Mhz Graphics Card HD5470 / HD5670 Sound Card Onboard Monitor(s) Displays FullHD 15" / Dell 22" WS Screen Resolution 1920x1080 / 1680x1050 Keyboard Logitech Mouse Logitech PSU CM Case CM Cooling CM, Antec Hard Drives 320GB / 1.5TB |
11 Nov 2011
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#6 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 32 Bit Edition |
That's good to here. But shouldn't it be compromised theoretically. I'm not saying I'm not happy about it. Just wondering. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium 32 Bit Edition CPU Intel Core i3 530 2.93GHz Motherboard Intel DH55TC Memory Corsair 4GB DDR3 1333 MHz Graphics Card EVGA GTS 450 1GB Sound Card N/A |
11 Nov 2011
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#7 | | Window 7 Home Premium 64-bit |
This is also a i3 core, which is 64-bit capable so memory is mapped different then on a true 32-bit (with or without PAE)
The missing 512MB of memory might be allocated to video in the BIOS. Disable the onboard video and de-allocate RAM away for onboard video. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build - Gigabyte P67A-UD3-B3 OS Window 7 Home Premium 64-bit CPU Intel i7-2600 Motherboard Gigabyte P67A-UD3-B3 Memory 16GB DDR3-1666 Graphics Card Zotac Nvidia 295 GTX (Dual GPU) Sound Card Realtek --> SPDIF --> 1200W 7.1 Surround Sound Receiver Monitor(s) Displays LG 24" LCD Monitor Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech G19 Mouse Logitech G500 PSU Rosewill BRONZE Series RBR1000-M 1000W Continuous@40°C Case HEC Blitz Black Steel Edition ATX Mid Tower Computer Chassis Cooling Air Hard Drives OCZ 120GB RevoDrive SSD (2x 55GB [actually 110GB] RAID 0)
2x Seagate Barracuda 2TB HDD
Western Digital 500GB (swap/temp file)
Western Digital 1TB (backup) Internet Speed Cable (20 Mbit) |
11 Nov 2011
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#8 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Windows XP SP3, Linux Mint 14 MATE (64 bit) Adelaide |
The OS needs some RAM to run the various Windows services. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number n/a OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (64 bit), Windows XP SP3, Linux Mint 14 MATE (64 bit) CPU AMD Phenom II x6 1055T, 2.8 GHz Motherboard ASRock 880GMH-LE/USB3 Memory 8GB DDR3 1333 G-Skill Ares F3-1333C9D-8GAO (4GB x 2) Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD6450 Sound Card Realtek? Monitor(s) Displays Samsung S23B350 Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Mouse Wired Optical Case Tower Hard Drives Western Digital 1 TB (SATA), Western Digital 1.5 TB (SATA), Western Digital 2 TB (SATA) Internet Speed DSL Other Info Ubuntu 10.04 (64 bit) replaced with Linux Mint 14 MATE (64 bit) - 2013-01-14
RAM & Graphics Card Upgraded - 2013-01-13
Monitor Upgraded - 2012-04-20
System Upgraded - 2011-05-21, 2010-07-14
HDD Upgraded - 2010-08-11, 2011-08-24 |
11 Nov 2011
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#9 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 32 Bit Edition |

Quote: Originally Posted by Tae Song This is also a i3 core, which is 64-bit capable so memory is mapped different then on a true 32-bit (with or without PAE)
The missing 512MB of memory might be allocated to video in the BIOS. Disable the onboard video and de-allocate RAM away for onboard video. Sorry if this is a stupid question but how does one go about doing that. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium 32 Bit Edition CPU Intel Core i3 530 2.93GHz Motherboard Intel DH55TC Memory Corsair 4GB DDR3 1333 MHz Graphics Card EVGA GTS 450 1GB Sound Card N/A |
11 Nov 2011
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#10 | | Windows 7 Professional SP1 32-bit Fantasyland |
People often think that a videocard takes away as much system RAM as it has RAM of its own. That's a common misconception.
The way it really works is that the videocard reserves a memory range (below the 4GB limit) to map regions of its own onboard RAM into, so the system can access it as needed. When another part of the video RAM is needed, the card simply maps out the current region and maps in the new one.
That's the reason you don't see a full GB being reserved and unusable for Windows. This is perfectly normal. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom-built OS Windows 7 Professional SP1 32-bit CPU Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4GHz, overclocked to 2.7GHz Motherboard Asus PL5D2 Memory 4GB DDR2-667 (4x1GB in dual-channel config) Graphics Card nVidia GeForce 9800 GT Sound Card Creative X-Fi XtremeMusic Monitor(s) Displays Acer Screen Resolution 1920x1200 (DVI) Keyboard Standard Mouse Microsoft wireless optical mouse PSU Antec TruePower 2.0 Case Cooler Master Centurion Cooling various fans Hard Drives OCZ SSD Vertex Plus 60GB SATA (Firmware 3.55), 64MB cache
Hitachi HD321KJ SATA, 320GB, 7200rpm, 16MB cache Internet Speed DSL; ~330KB/sec down, ~110KB/sec up Other Info Have a laptop too :) (Compaq CQ60 also with Win7 Pro SP1 32-bit)
Drives in both systems:
C: - Windows 7 + apps. Pagefile is fixed size and located at the very end of the partition.
D: - various temp files/cache for Firefox and apps/games.
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