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Windows 7: Windows 7...why?

15 Nov 2011   #51
pincushion

Windows 7 x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by seavixen32 View Post
Point taken, pincushion, but I just fail to see the sense in putting yourself (not you personally) through a lot of hassle just to shave a couple of seconds off the startup up time or see a window open 2 milliseconds quicker.

As I said on another thread: if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
I just see an overall strategy of trimming and tweaking where necessary to make a system quicker and safer if that doesn't imply breaking anything in the process. And the more one tweaks then the more one learns - even if it is sometimes painful.

W7 can be used out-of-the-box and I have no quibbles about it most of the time but it is perhaps a little harder to manage than XP for the tweak brigade (pincushion is an honorary member).


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15 Nov 2011   #52
gregrocker

 

How long have you been with Win7, pincushion?

Many of us who were with Win7 through beta learned the hard way that the old XP tweaks are counterproductive and not well tolerated by Win7, which is already as lean as an OS can be.

To this day, the only clawback tweak I do is to edit Visual Effects of sliding, fading, animations and dragging intact on older hardware. This was habit in XP and the only habit I've carried over because it is barely noticeable visually (unless you accidentally uncheck Visual Style and everything suddenly looks like a file cabinet ) but usually eliminates the only hangs I've seen in Win7 with more than 512mb RAM.
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15 Nov 2011   #53
pincushion

Windows 7 x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
How long have you been with Win7, pincushion?

Many of us who were with Win7 through beta learned the hard way that the old XP tweaks are counterproductive and not well tolerated by Win7, which is already as lean as an OS can be.

To this day, the only clawback tweak I do is to edit Visual Effects of sliding, fading, animations and dragging intact on older hardware. This was habit in XP and the only habit I've carried over because it is barely noticeable visually (unless you accidentally uncheck Visual Style and everything suddenly looks like a file cabinet ) but usually eliminates the only hangs I've seen in Win7 with more than 512mb RAM.
I've been using it for about 15 months and I'm quite happy with it but I still think some things can be trimmed or altered. My XP system was on its last legs but still struggles along - doesn't get connected to the Internet much these days, even for updates. In W7 I disable a few services and can't stand the indexing or search stuff. I never do any searching much anyway but Agent Ransack does it for me when I need it. I like to know what is connecting to the Internet and for what reason and I also like to know why my disk is thrashing about if it does this. So I tend to disable a lot of things that are software-related too. I must admit I've not felt the need to do any registry cleaning although I do use CCleaner after every browser session partly from the space issue but also from the safety aspect. I also am not a convert to Restore having used Ghost, Acronis and now Macrium to do the same thing but more reliably in my view.
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15 Nov 2011   #54
DeaconFrost

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pincushion View Post
I just see an overall strategy of trimming and tweaking where necessary to make a system quicker and safer if that doesn't imply breaking anything in the process. And the more one tweaks then the more one learns - even if it is sometimes painful.
You are missing one major point, and one that has been stressed for two years, but is still often missed. "Tweaks" aren't going to yield more performance in Windows 7. That's why the best tweaking advice is to leave it alone. Disabling services, altering OS settings, etc will yield no benefit.

If you separate out "customizing", then yes, there's plenty of room for that. But out of the box, aside from loading the latest drivers, Windows 7 will tune itself to run optimally. That's also why it doesn't need to be reloaded every so often.

You always have to remember that Windows 7 is a different animal than XP, and should be treated as such.
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15 Nov 2011   #55
legacy7955

win 7 home premium 64 bit
 
 

I will say that one thing you CAN get quicker boot performance from is disabling your unnecessary start up programs, it does sometimes save a few extra seconds or more.

Totally safe tweak no bad side effects.
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15 Nov 2011   #56
apogee07

 
 

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If you can tell me how to get W7 to bring up recently used folders and files when trying to open one in an application then I might abate some of my (justified) "hollering".
Your most recently used folders are available by rightclicking the file icon on taskbar.

In an application, all history is also available by rightclicking it's icon on taskbar providing you pin it to taskbar. Rightclick the program .exe to Pin to Taskbar. This is a feature of the new Win7 taskbar.
Thanks, that's handy. But I also spend time inside My Computer so as to have access to different file types across folders. A "Recent history" in My Computer would save a lot a endless repetitive folder actions especially when they have several branches to find a commonly used file to launch from.

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15 Nov 2011   #57
apogee07

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by seavixen32 View Post
We're not mind readers.

Telling us which application would be a start.

Personally, I'm just bemused at this Windows 7 sniping. The people in Redmond have really got their act together on this one.

As one who started with Windows 3.1, loved XP and choked on Vista, I find Windows 7 to be the best. Each morning I get to a working desktop within a minute of switching on, I have tweaked nothing and never will, and have got to a stage where it's going to take something pretty special to wean me off this fine operating system.

And no, I have no connection with Microsoft whatever. I'm just commenting as a satisfied user.
See my reply to gregrocker above.

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15 Nov 2011   #58
apogee07

 
 

And while we're at it has anyone a solution to enable the "input device" in Audacity 3.1 in W7. Works ok in XP. According to what I found scouring the net on this, apparently W7 does not support an "input device".

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15 Nov 2011   #59
logicearth

Windows 10 Pro (x64)
 
 

Input devices...you mean these:


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16 Nov 2011   #60
pincushion

Windows 7 x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pincushion View Post
I just see an overall strategy of trimming and tweaking where necessary to make a system quicker and safer if that doesn't imply breaking anything in the process. And the more one tweaks then the more one learns - even if it is sometimes painful.
You are missing one major point, and one that has been stressed for two years, but is still often missed. "Tweaks" aren't going to yield more performance in Windows 7. That's why the best tweaking advice is to leave it alone. Disabling services, altering OS settings, etc will yield no benefit.

If you separate out "customizing", then yes, there's plenty of room for that. But out of the box, aside from loading the latest drivers, Windows 7 will tune itself to run optimally. That's also why it doesn't need to be reloaded every so often.

You always have to remember that Windows 7 is a different animal than XP, and should be treated as such.
I think you'll have to define 'benefit' since performance is not the sole issue.

I'll agree that most of the things I've done have been more customising than tweaks but if disabling some services gives me more memory for other things then that is what I'll do. I was down to about 35 before adding the ones I wanted to run.

One of the few things I have done is to remove Libraries from Explorer and dialogues but my major gripe is the one I can't do and that is remove the Recycle bin completely. Perhaps I am just more organised than most but I very rarely inadvertently delete something that I later regret and I have more than enough back-ups of any saved data. I would just like it to be made easier to remove all the things that you don't particularly need from whatever area e.g context menus. It makes things snappier and you are less likely to make mistakes by inadvertently choosing a wrong item from a menu. If it doesn't exist on the menu then you can't choose it.

Apart from that I do really like W7.
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