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Windows 7: I keep failing to Restore. Here is the Message. Any advice?

15 Nov 2011   #11
Kaktussoft

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chrstdvd View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kaktussoft View Post
"system restore" restores your system (not documents) to an earlier day. It completes or it fails .... there is not something as a half restored system!! so don't be afraid
Attachment 183657

Yep, it worked. What does this mean. Do I need to delete all the old restore points and start fresh?
If the last restore point works I would say: Delete all restore points and create a new one manually. Also perform a chkdsk to check for disk errors
chkdsk /f /r c:
this will take a long time to run but checks for bad sectors


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15 Nov 2011   #12
chrstdvd

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
No, if anything you should apportion more HD space to System Restore. I use 20% on my installs: System Protection - Change Disk Space Usage

May I ask what Recovery Environment you used to try System Restore after that advice was given. You want the DVD Repair console or System Repair Disk, not onboard Recovery options via F8 which depend on System files which may be messed up.
Ok, I increased to 20%. I restarted computer and F12'ed and chose boot from disk. I used my original installation disk and got into recovery and tried a restore. If failed with the same Message as in OP.

Right now the only restore point that I can use is the one I created yesterday.
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15 Nov 2011   #13
chrstdvd

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kaktussoft View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chrstdvd View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kaktussoft View Post
"system restore" restores your system (not documents) to an earlier day. It completes or it fails .... there is not something as a half restored system!! so don't be afraid
Attachment 183657

Yep, it worked. What does this mean. Do I need to delete all the old restore points and start fresh?
If the last restore point works I would say: Delete all restore points and create a new one manually. Also perform a chkdsk to check for disk errors
chkdsk /f /r c:
this will take a long time to run but checks for bad sectors
I typed in the chkdsk command above in command window and got this reply.
I keep failing to Restore.  Here is the Message.  Any advice?-cprompt.png

So then I went to Computer/Properties/Tools tab and clicked on check disk. I got this response.
I keep failing to Restore.  Here is the Message.  Any advice?-check.png

I am the only user on this computer and am logged in as the administrator. I wonder if I have changed a permission someplace that makes the computer think I am not the administrator. I am going to restart the computer and let the scheduled check disk run and then, if I can, study up on this "Computer Administrator" mystery.


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15 Nov 2011   #14
Kaktussoft

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your system disk is being used so doing a chkdsk at boot is logical!
Be sure to check for bad sectors as well!
Disk Check
read tutorial
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15 Nov 2011   #15
Kaktussoft

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yesterday's restore point is fine. The restore point before that is corrupt. So restoring to that point fails. Going back to an earlier date fails as well because internally it does a restore one by one back in time (sort of).

Why it's corrupt ... I don't know. chkdsk /r /f c:
will check your disk anyway
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15 Nov 2011   #16
gregrocker

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kaktussoft View Post
@gregrocker recovery environment on disk (using F8) is just a winpe environment starting winre.win. What system files does it depend on? It depends on bootmgr and bcd-store but when it starts it has all files in winre.wim. Create a system repair disk is just a copy of that same environment.

So I don't understand your post on this topic. Or am I totally wrong?
WinRe will sometimes not work when run from F8 or autostarted from Windows to Startup Repair, chkdsk, etc., yet it will repair using the DVD or Repair CD. My guess it is that the DVD/Repair has its own set of WinRE files which work better in boot environment. What do you think?

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by chrstdvd View Post
I am the only user on this computer and am logged in as the administrator. I wonder if I have changed a permission someplace that makes the computer think I am not the administrator. I am going to restart the computer and let the scheduled check disk run and then, if I can, study up on this "Computer Administrator" mystery.
Open the Command Box by typing CMD in Start Search box, then rightclick on result to Run As Administrator. Easiest to run it from C>Properties>Tools with both boxes checked, but it needs to reboot to dismount the HD. Running it from Command Line is mostly useful from the DVD or Repair CD whcih don't require Run As.
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15 Nov 2011   #17
Kaktussoft

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@gregrocker recovery environment on disk (using F8) is just a winpe environment starting winre.win. What system files does it depend on? It depends on bootmgr and bcd-store but when it starts it has all files in winre.wim. Create a system repair disk is just a copy of that same environment.

I even have updated winre.wim and afterwards made a system repair disk. All updates are on system repair disk as well. It's just a copy of it! A virus can make winre.wim infected but that's most unlikely.

If windows recovery doesn't start from F8 it's a bcd-problem or bootmgr problem. But if it starts the way it works should be exactly the same. Correct me if I'm wrong
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15 Nov 2011   #18
gregrocker

 

Everything you say is true, yet WinRE sometimes doesn't work when it autostarts or is selected from Advanced Boot Options, when it will instead work when booted from the DVD or Repair CD.

Stick around and you'll see.
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15 Nov 2011   #19
Kaktussoft

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Very strange .... never had that issue
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16 Nov 2011   #20
chrstdvd

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OK Gents, I have read all the links provided and followed all your instructions. The check disk procedure took about three hours to run and no errors were detected. While I was waiting for that I went through my old CD"S found that I had created a restore CD long ago. I tried restoring with that to no avail.

I am ready to place the Retail CD that I bought to convert this computer from VISTA to W7 and run the "Repair Your Computer" portion.

My question before I begin is: Should I create another Recovery CD before I attempt this procedure and use it to repair with? After all, I have two years of updates and the SP1 installed on here now; I am not sure, if I should repair with the original CD.
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