Windows 7 Forums

Welcome to Windows 7 Forums. Our forum is dedicated to helping you find support and solutions for any problems regarding your Windows 7 PC be it Dell, HP, Acer, Asus or a custom build. We also provide an extensive Windows 7 tutorial section that covers a wide range of tips and tricks.


Windows 7: Need a new MB & probably CPU I'm a lot out of date, suggestions please

18 Nov 2011   #1
Trapper

Windows 7 Professional 64bit
 
 
Need a new MB & probably CPU I'm a lot out of date, suggestions please

I will soon be in a position to replace my MB and XP with a new MB, possibly a CPU and Windows 7. I will have around 200 for the MB & CPU (As long as eBay does its job)

At present I have an ASUS A8N-SLI Premium MB (Does not support W7) with an AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 2.20 Gigahertz CPU Socket 939 which seems to be obsolete now.

All powered by a Hyper PSU, ATX, 580 True Watts. With 2 x 12v O/P.

There are so many MB's out there it is a mine field of specs, 90% of which is a mystery to me.
I am looking for a MB that can go to 8GB+ of DDR DIMM memory, has two SLI PCI Express Graphic slots and 3 or more PCI slots, sound, modem etc. My present MB also has PCIEX_1 and a PCIEX4_1. I also need as many USB sockets as possible.
I am using Pri and Sec IDE connectors and have floppy and CD connected to the board as well. I have not used raid (Cos I don't really understand it!)

Can anyone suggest a MB & CPU that is better than the above? I have seen bundles advertised but I don't know what I'm looking for, yet.

My budget is around 200 but could go above this if really necessary to get a good combo.

Thanks for any pointers!


My System SpecsSystem Spec
.
18 Nov 2011   #2
ignatzatsonic

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
 
 

First decide on Intel or AMD for the CPU. Either works fine, but Intel has an edge now at most price points.

I know nothing about AMD anyway.

You likely will need a new motherboard, a new CPU, and new RAM (DDR 3).

200 pounds is about $330 US.

Roughly, in US prices: 50 for 8 GB RAM; 140 for decent motherboard (Intel, Asus, or Gigabyte); and $140 for an Intel Socket 1155 CPU.

Here is a list of socket 1155 motherboards with 2 PCI Express slots and 3 PCI slots

Newegg.com - Computer Hardware, Motherboards, Intel Motherboards, LGA 1155, Core i7 / i5 / i3 (LGA1155), 2, 3

The Asus P8P67 at $150 would probably be fine for your situation.

Allot US $50 for 8 GB RAM and then blow all remaining budget on the strongest Intel socket 1155 (Sandy Bridge) processor you can afford.

Here is a list of them:

Newegg.com - Computer Hardware, CPUs / Processors, Processors - Desktops, Intel, LGA 1155, Sandy Bridge

Looks like your budget would support something in the range of i5-2100 to i5-2300.

You can always move more money toward the CPU and away from the motherboard as necessary---or go with 4 GB of RAM to start with. That would save $20 or $25 that you could put toward a stronger CPU--where the money is best spent, in my opinion. An i5-2500 is very strong.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
18 Nov 2011   #3
chessdragon136

Windows 7
 
 

@ignatzatsonic A suggestion, please dont convert to $ and then spec on prices you get in America for a system.. Prices there are usually a lot cheaper than here in the UK..

For instance, Newegg i5 2500K converts to 140 ish.. Here you couldn't get that for less than 165 (give or take) and 25 is what, $40?? So your spec is well off

200 would not get you any Intel i series stuff here, not with those motherboard requirements.. the cheapest I series proc (low end 1155 i3) is 95 ish

Ebuyer Socket 1155 Range

As a recommendation, it may be cheaper to spec a new hard drive and cd drive and possibly remove the floppy (unless it is used of course) than it is to find a motherboard with those requirements (as sadly now its seen as old, so harder to find, so usually more expensive) I may be completely wrong on this though!
My System SpecsSystem Spec
.

19 Nov 2011   #4
Trapper

Windows 7 Professional 64bit
 
 

Thanks for the info and the link, I have looked at the Ebuyer site who have the ASUS P8768-V code 267772 @ 148.23 and the Intelcore i5 2500 3.3Ghz 1155 6MB @ 165.68. These two items cost 313.91, a bit too much over budget I also need to get W7 and if I can a new MS Office either 2007 or 2010.

Okay, perhaps I need to approach this from a different angle, usage and needs. If you only need to go shopping you don't need a Ferrari (No matter how much you'd like one!

My MB does not support XP so upgrading that is a must. My AMD processor still works fine but is now pretty much obsolete so that should be upgraded. I have 4gb DDR DIMM memory which is fairly recent (an attempt to improve my PC which made no noticeable difference).

I use this PC mostly for data, email, Word processing and spreadsheets. I like to run more than one program at a time, often Microsoft Media Player playing in the background. I can have Firefox open with a range of tabs open plus Outlook. Occasional use of Paint Shop Pro but very little.

I also play a few games (Not online) like Crysis, Doom or Half life or similar.

I note that the MB suggested P8768-V does not list IDE HD connectors, my main HD is a SATA WD Caviar Green 500gb split into two drives, I was going to keep one as XP and the other as W7. I guess I could ditch my older drives if this type is now also obsolete, if I have to! My floppy can go as I can copy any content onto a USB stick.

With the above in mind what would you suggest, for, say around 250 for CPU and MB?
My System SpecsSystem Spec
19 Nov 2011   #5
chessdragon136

Windows 7
 
 

OK thats all useful to know..

First of all, You will not get a Windows 7 license or Office License in your budget.
Windows 7 Home Premium OEM (One time install) is 70 on ebuyer.. think thats about right. If you are a student you can usually get student deals which save about 80%

Student discounts, deals & offers for premium software in UK

As for your usage, for 250, you could get a low end i3 at around 100, a gigabyte motherboard for 75 and 4GB of RAM for around 20..

Intel Core i3 2100 3.10GHz Socket 1155 3MB L3 Cache.. | Ebuyer.com
Gigabyte GA-Z68AP-D3 Z68 Socket 1155 8 Channel Audio.. | Ebuyer.com
Kingston 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1600MHz HyperX Blu Memory.. | Ebuyer.com

I don't believe you have mentioned your Graphics cards at all.. The Gigabyte motherboard supports ATI Crossfire but not Nvidia SLI..
Also, any peripheral cards? Again, Motherboard has only 2 PCI slots...

So basically, you may change the mobo, and once you have one that settles your needs, then see what money you have left over and maybe pick a higher i3 processor

All this is Socket 1155 -> NOT to be confused with 1156!!!

I must also admit, I haven't used AMD systems in a long time, you may get a cheaper result there but I wouldn't know what to recommend.. Maybe someone else does??? Sorry
My System SpecsSystem Spec
19 Nov 2011   #6
Trapper

Windows 7 Professional 64bit
 
 

Thanks Chessdragon 136.

I have an ATI Radeon HD5570 graphics card, bit basic but does the job on my present set up so that would suit the Gigabyte MB at least as a 'get you up and going'.

I am using a Creative Audigy II sound card and an old fax modem card so that should be okay with the 2 PCI slots. anything else would have to go USB. If the onboard sound is fair this could be a useful inclusion instead of the Audigy.

I'm racking my brain to see if there is a relation in education I could use to obtain the Software4students system! Got to be one somewhere...... but most are in the 'very senior' category.

eBay is doing quite well, much better than I expected, so I may be able to stretch the budget, keeping my fingers crossed.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
19 Nov 2011   #7
jc836

Windows 7 Enterprise 64bit Desktops; Windows 7 Professional 64Bit Laptops
 
 

As a custom system builder-I can safely say that the current AMD processor is fine for most applications/users. You need to find a motherboard that supports AM2, AM2+, AM3 processors for starters-IF-this is your desired direction. The advice of others about a full upgraqde is not bad either.
For me-I am running Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit with an AMD Athlon 64 X@ 3800+ on a Biostar K8M800 MB with no issues other than the fact that it only supports 2 gB of RAM and has but 2 SATA ports in addition to the IDE. Check very carefully that any motherboard you are considering actually has reasonably current drivers for Windows 7 (32 and 64).
Typically the power supply should be replaced for peace of mind and an upgrade to at least 500 watts continuous. GREEN is good too. Video is onboard or you can elect to use a plug-in card. For office work internal is fine/gaming, its up to you.

Again-the CPU you have is not obsolete. Make sure to replace the cooler/heatsink and all fans too. Maybe slow by some standards and purposes. Memory for Windows 7 should ideally be at 4GB, but I am satisfied with 2 for my purposes. Make sure the motherboard is the correct size for your case-or better still get a new one and enjoy the refreshing change in looks
My System SpecsSystem Spec
20 Nov 2011   #8
sgage

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Trapper View Post
Thanks Chessdragon 136.

I have an ATI Radeon HD5570 graphics card, bit basic but does the job on my present set up so that would suit the Gigabyte MB at least as a 'get you up and going'.

I am using a Creative Audigy II sound card and an old fax modem card so that should be okay with the 2 PCI slots. anything else would have to go USB. If the onboard sound is fair this could be a useful inclusion instead of the Audigy.

I'm racking my brain to see if there is a relation in education I could use to obtain the Software4students system! Got to be one somewhere...... but most are in the 'very senior' category.

eBay is doing quite well, much better than I expected, so I may be able to stretch the budget, keeping my fingers crossed.
Pretty much all you need to get the student discount is a .edu email address. Fantastic deals! I got Windows 7 for $30 and Office 2007 Ultimate for $60..., all fair and square.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
20 Nov 2011   #9
Nigsy

openSUSE 13.1 64bit
 
 

Have a look here:

Xenon AMD Athlon II X4 640 3.00GHz Bundle - Quad Core []

That's 150 - Only 4gb, but you could easily add another 4gb if needed.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
22 Nov 2011   #10
Trapper

Windows 7 Professional 64bit
 
 

Thank you for your guidance and help, after my hobby cupboard clear out eBay is going much better than I expected. I am now intending to get a better MB and CPU, I reckon budget for these is now around 350+ and I will still have enough for W7 and hopefully Office 2007 or 10.

Having liked my ASUS A8N-SLI Premium so I am happy to stick with the make and with the link from Nigsy I came across the ASUS P8P67 MB here: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=BU-078-OE&groupid=43&catid=2053&subcat=
with 8GB memory for 382.63. I would like to get away from noisy fans if at all possible and according to the user review the supplied fan is quite noisy, is there a quiet fan or can heatsinks be used on this CPU & board? Or an equally specked board that does not use fans at all would be better?
I do not know if the chipset is okay or even if the board is fairly new, as I do not want to buy an older board. Can anyone give me an opinion of this or better for the same money? I am quite happy sourcing from multiple suppliers to keep the costs down.

In the blurb on the OC page as above it states:
Quote:
Note - Please note that adding in additional memory to the spare slots will require new BIOS settings and the maximum clock speed attainable may be significantly reduced.
What does this mean in plain English 'practical' terms?


Likewise:
Quote:
Updating the BIOS on the overclocked bundle range will void the warranty on the overclock. If you update the BIOS we will no longer be able to provide support for configuring and maintaining the CPU overclock.
I read this to mean that if I upgrade and use 8gb memory I will require a new bios, but in doing the upgrade they will no longer provide support (or guarantee the MB)?

Keep 4gb no problem use 8gb and warranty is voided????????

Looks a bit suspect to me, but maybe I have the wrong end of the stick again!
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Reply

 Need a new MB & probably CPU I'm a lot out of date, suggestions please




Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search




Similar help and support threads
Thread Forum
Making files in subfolders sort by "Date" or "Date Taken" by default?
(Running Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1) I'm a professional photographer and have recently begun shooting with two cameras simultaneously at events. They use different file names to avoid duplicate names/confusion, i.e. IMG_175000 and XMG_175000. Often times I'll take a photo with one camera and...
General Discussion
Date/Time jumps after correct setting of date/time/timezone?
Have set the correct time zone, set the date and time, and within half an hour, the time jumps ahead significantly. Time then continues jumping periodically, and date as well. Any patch available for this? Thanks.
General Discussion
file date-created VS date-modified where modified < created
All -- Please help with this question about file date-created VS date-modified in Windows 7. Suppose a file is created at time1. How come Windows7 reports "date created" as "time1" and "date modified" as "time2" where "time2" is a time earlier than time1? See the attached file,...
General Discussion
File search (by date range) displays incorrect Mod Date in results
Searching for files modified in a specified date range (of the past 3 days) gets a search result list titled "date modified", and with the column heading "Date Modified" but the date listed against a file modified today is wrong. The date displayed matches the file creation date & is within the...
General Discussion
Date format using space as date separator rather than forward slash!
Hi all, I'm new to Windows 7 (Home Premium 32-bit) and I just can't figure out what's going on here! Basically I want my short date format to be dd/mm/yyyy (UK format) e.g. 05/11/2010, but when I key a date into Excel 2002 it is appearing as 05 11 2010. In Control Panel I have the short date...
General Discussion


Our Sites

Site Links

About Us

Find Us

Windows 7 Forums is an independent web site and has not been authorized, sponsored, or otherwise approved by Microsoft Corporation. "Windows 7" and related materials are trademarks of Microsoft Corp.

Designer Media Ltd

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 19:22.

Twitter Facebook Google+



Windows 7 Forums

Seven Forums Android App Seven Forums IOS App