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Windows 7: Comp only showing half memory

24 Nov 2011   #11
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Hi Patri,

1. As Decon Frost already pointes out, we are talking about Disk Space - not "memory" which is RAM. I would help if we stuck with the terminology.


2. All your disk space is accounted for. But you have a big chunk of over 200GB which is unallocated. By normal means you cannot recover any data from there. But if you had valuable data in that area, you could try Recuva. Chances are 50/50 that you can get stuff back.


3. Your setup is somewhat unusual - to say the least. If I were you, I would backup my data, clear the disk and reinstall. Since you have no recovery partition, this system must have come from an installation disk which you can use.


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24 Nov 2011   #12
Patri50

windows 7 32 bit
 
 

Thank you so very much for all your replies.
Thank you MilesAhead, I was using Paragon to try to move the partitions when the comp crashed and the problem started.
Thank you also Jonathon King.
dsperber: you are right that the original computer came with vista installed, complete with an upgrade disk for windows 7, will this effect the trying to recover the lost Gb
You've all been so helpful, please, bearing in mind I'm not a techy, continue to advise
Many thanks again
Patri
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25 Nov 2011   #13
dsperber

Windows 7 Pro x64 (1), Win7 Pro X64 (2)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Patri50 View Post
dsperber: you are right that the original computer came with vista installed, complete with an upgrade disk for windows 7, will this effect the trying to recover the lost Gb
No. It only clarifies the odd partition structure we see for the C and D partitions.

I now believe the current 45GB C partition (which shows as "active" is where your old Vista system lived), and that your current 200GB D partition (which shows as "boot" and includes the page file) is where your current Win7 system lives.

I don't know how your upgrade process went, and whether or not Win7 was added to Vista as a second bootable OS, so that you currently have a boot-time menu that offers you a choice of booting to your old Vista or your new Win7, or whether the upgrade process simply made the new Win7 system (which I believe is actually on D) the one-and-only bootable OS and Vista is simply gone.

If we could see Windows Explorer screenshots of the root directory for both C and D it would probably even further clarify what your two partitions contain. But you could simply tell us what happens (or happened) at boot time before you tried to manipulate partitions with Paragon. I, myself, use Partition Wizard for partitioning tasks but there are many ways to skin this cat.

For your current situation it seems all you need to do is CREATE a new partition in that unallocated 213GB space in the middle of the drive. Just run DISKMGMT.MSC again, and right-click on that "unallocated" space shown in the graphical area in the lower part of the screen, and select CREATE from the popup context menu.

Then follow the wizard... which will be simple if you just one to allocate the whole 218GB to one more "primary" partition. You're only allowed to have at most FOUR "primary" partitions on a hard drive and you've currently got three, so you can create one more (and allocate all 218GB available to it). The NTFS file system should be pre-selected by default, and if you want you can create a "label" for the partition (say... DATA2, since you already have DATA even though I think it is really Win7 living there).

This will also cause a new drive letter to be assigned to that newly created partition, which will most likely be F (since you already have C and D on that DISK0 hard drive, and E for your CD drive). Actually you can always change your drive letters (for other than your Win7 partition) if you don't like what you will get (which will likely be F for that new partition).


Alternatively, you can CREATE a "logical" partition in that unallocated space, which for now can still be ALL of the available space. But if you do define it as "logical" then you can come back at a future date and further sub-divide the space (obviously somewhat shrinking the logical partition you're creating now) in order to create additional "logical" partitions in what will then be newly available unallocated space.

In other words, you can have up to FOUR "primary" partitions on a hard drive. But one of those "primary" partitions can be used as what's called an "extended partition" (and it's truly a "primary" partition). However inside of that one "extended partition" you can sub-allocate ANY NUMBER of "logical" partitions. So this trick allows you to have more than four partitions on a single hard drive... up to three "primary" partitions and then ANY NUMBER of "logical" sub-defined inside of that fourth "primary" partition used as an "extended partition".

I'm not trying to complicate the discussion, so if you only have a need and desire for one more partition on this drive, to use all of the currently available 218GB of storage, then go ahead and just allocate it as a fourth "primary" in that CREATE wizard, and use all the available space.


And, one more alternative... you can also use Partition Wizard to do the same CREATE of the new partition (and again, either "primary" or "logical").

And I think you can also use Paragon to do the same thing.

The important thing is that you simply need to right-click on the unallocated space using any of the above-named tools, and then select CREATE from the popup context menu, and then just "follow the wizard". That will give you a newly lettered partition, with all of the 218GB space now available for your use.
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26 Nov 2011   #14
MilesAhead

Windows 7 32 bit
 
 

I would not use any Paragon partitioning software on Vista or later NTFS. Only XP and earlier. That's how the OP got into this mess. Also you get maximum compatibility if you ever want to stick on another OS such as Linux, by having the logical partition as the last, or right most in the Disk Management. It's not supposed to make any difference, but why take a risk? If I've used a logical it's always been the last partition after learning the hard way.
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27 Nov 2011   #15
Patri50

windows 7 32 bit
 
 

Thank you again for all your replies, haven't been able to tackle any attempts at recovering the Gb's yet, want to have the time to sit and concentrate properly. Am I right that partition magic should be the tool i download to do this, i'm afraid i have got a bit confused, apart from not to use paragon, which would be best. Thank you all again Patri
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27 Nov 2011   #16
dsperber

Windows 7 Pro x64 (1), Win7 Pro X64 (2)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Patri50 View Post
Am I right that partition magic should be the tool i download to do this
It's Partition Wizard, not Partition Magic.

Actually Partition Magic is an old program (which used to be sold by a company named Powerquest), that ultimately got purchased by Symantec who failed to maintain it. The product is no longer usable with Win7, large modern drives, etc.

Anyway, Partition Wizard (which, curiously, looks almost the same as Partition Magic) is the product you're now looking for.

It is a reliable and widely used program that can do all kinds of partition-related functions, many of which (but nowhere near all) can also be done by Window's built-in DISKMGMT functionality, but with a somewhat prettier user interface.

In particular, creating a new partition out of currently unallocated space is something that both Partition Wizard as well as DISKMGMT can both do.

Some other functions (involving the Win7 partition itself, e.g. moving and/or resizing) can only be done by "standalone bootable" Partition Wizard (i.e. those functions cannot be performed while Win7 is up and running). So you should download that ISO and burn to CD, for use in standalone boot mode when you need to, as well as downloading the installable program to run under Win7 itself (for other partitions, which can be worked on even while Win7 is running).
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