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Windows 7: Keyboard-input problem

02 Dec 2011   #11
rubyrubyroo

MS Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit (Family Pack Lic.) Upgrade
 
 

Very good! That allows us to rule out a hardware problem with your keyboard.

If you can pinpoint the day that it occurred (or approximately), we can check to see if and what updates were installed at that time.

To do this simply click on the orb and enter "update" into the search box. Press enter. A window will open titled Windows Update. Click on the blue underlined link labeled "View Update History" in the middle/right side of the screen. A window with a listbox shall appear with a listing of all the updates that have been attempted as well as the name, status, importance and date installed. Scroll down to the date that this started and make a screen capture or type the listings of the updates done at the time this problem began and directly before it began. Please include whether the install was a "Successful" or "Failure" and the names of these entries.


Mike


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02 Dec 2011   #12
Setarkos

Windows 7 Professional 32bit
 
 

These are the only two that fall into the possible time span:

Code:
Definition Update for Windows Defender - KB915597 (Definition 1.117.154.0)

Installation date: ‎12/‎2/‎2011 12:46 PM

Installation status: Successful

Update type: Important

Install this update to revise the definition files used to detect spyware and other potentially unwanted software. Once you have installed this item, it cannot be removed.

More information: 
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/about/overview.mspx

Help and Support: 
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=52661
Code:
Definition Update for Windows Defender - KB915597 (Definition 1.115.2785.0)

Installation date: ‎11/‎29/‎2011 5:17 PM

Installation status: Successful

Update type: Important

Install this update to revise the definition files used to detect spyware and other potentially unwanted software. Once you have installed this item, it cannot be removed.

More information: 
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/about/overview.mspx

Help and Support: 
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=52661
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02 Dec 2011   #13
rubyrubyroo

MS Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit (Family Pack Lic.) Upgrade
 
 

Okay then let's restore your system settings to the way they were before the date 11/29/2011 by doing the following, and this will hopefully do the trick:

To do this simply click on the orb and enter "restore" into the search box. Press enter. A window will open titled "System Restore". Click on the [NEXT>] button. In the next screen there will be a listing of the most recent restore points created, if they are all too recent, check the box labeled "Show More Restore Points". This will show ALL possible Restore Points. Choose one that is before the date: 11/29/2011 (preferably a day or two earlier than this date) Select the Restore Point you have decided to use, and click on the [NEXT>] button. Click on the [FINISH] button and your computer will go through a whole rebooting process. As soon as it is finished, log back on and open a text application like notepad to determine if this fixed the problem!

Just take your time and do this correctly, It's my Birthday and I am being forcibly removed to go to dinner with a friend, so I will be back in about an hour or so, if no one else helps you.

Hopefully, this will do the trick and you will need no further assistance.
If, or when this problem is resolved please return and let me/us know the results!

Thanks so much!
Mike
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02 Dec 2011   #14
Setarkos

Windows 7 Professional 32bit
 
 

Happy birthday and thanks mike, I don't want to steal any more time of your birthday!
I will do this tomorrow anyway, no time right now.
Cheers

Edit: I was hoping I can fix this problem somehow without restoring (I'm somewhat afraid of that...) I did a virus scan yesterday that might have something to do with this... I had Thunderbird problems as well since yesterday but can't pin point exactly if the problems startet simultaneously...
TB was fixed by reinstalling it. It wasn't able to copy files to "sent" and/or "drafts".

There should be a way to fix the keyboard issue without restoring...?
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02 Dec 2011   #15
westom

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Setarkos View Post
Whenever I hit the ^-button, it immediately writes ^^, ...
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Setarkos View Post
What could be the problem?
Step one to solving such problems means first identifying the defect either in hardware or software. Without that information, then every suggestion is best defined as wild speculation.

Better laptop manufacturers make it easy. All laptop manufacturers have comprehensive hardware diagnostics. But only the better ones also provide them to you for free; on the hard drive, on a provided CD, and on their web site. Comprehensive diagnostic executes without Windows. Necessary to draw a line between hardware and software. Diagnostic only talks to and tests hardware. If the double ^^ appears in a diagnostic, then we know exactly where to look next. No more speculation.

This is what they mean in CSI by "follow the evidence'. First break a problem into parts. Identify which part contains a defect. Then have a much smaller number of suspects. Currently your suspect list is longer than what has been suggested.

Using a different keyboard on a different port (ie USB) will say little that is useful. Even booting the computer in DOS would say more. Before anyone can recommend a solution, first one must identify the problem.

BTW, did you know a keyboard even has its own computer? That ORB test does not use that keyboard computer or switches that also might cause double clicking. You must know that to better understand the problem.
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03 Dec 2011   #16
Setarkos

Windows 7 Professional 32bit
 
 

I think we have pretty much ruled out hardware:
1. in the command prompt the problem does NOT occur
2. the same problem persists when I use the on screen keyboard
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03 Dec 2011   #17
Setarkos

Windows 7 Professional 32bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by rubyrubyroo View Post
To do this simply click on the orb and enter "restore" into the search box. Press enter. A window will open titled "System Restore". Click on the [NEXT>] button. In the next screen there will be a listing of the most recent restore points created, if they are all too recent, check the box labeled "Show More Restore Points". This will show ALL possible Restore Points. Choose one that is before the date: 11/29/2011 (preferably a day or two earlier than this date) Select the Restore Point you have decided to use, and click on the [NEXT>] button. Click on the [FINISH] button and your computer will go through a whole rebooting process. As soon as it is finished, log back on and open a text application like notepad to determine if this fixed the problem!

Should I do a full backup of my files or is the risk of something failing rather low?
Will I automatically lose the files I've created since the date that I choose for the restore?
Any advice on how to find all the data that needs backing up?
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03 Dec 2011   #18
rubyrubyroo

MS Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit (Family Pack Lic.) Upgrade
 
 

Hello Setarkos,

Well you are welcome to decide on what course of action you'd feel comfortable with. I was simply presenting my advise.

I don't want to confuse you, but I will say this: What Westom says is true, I actually remember typing the words "ruled out" deleting them to better word the sentence, then decide rather than cause confusion, I'd just replace thee words. But I knew someone would come along and point this out. However unlikely it is possible that it could be a hardware issue. A.) It is not a key problem. B.) It is not a problem with the integrated circuit which converts the key strokes to serial data. Once the signal is transmitted to the keyboard buffer, there could be an issue at that point, that may be repeated even with another keyboard/on-screen keyboard. And while this hardly meets the definition of a computer in the keyboard, by any definition of a computer that I know of, it is a remote possibility. Unfortunately unless you have a hardware diagnostics tool, it can be a rather lengthy process to goto the manufacturer's site locate your model computer download the proper tool burn it to a disc, restart the computer and enter BIOS change the startup order, or confirm it has the optical drive first, save the setting & exit, reboot into their CD/DVD Diagnostic Tools And preform the test, which I do not know of how to help you with, so you'd need to follow the directions, possibly save a log file or else read/interpret the results and without windows no screen-shots can be done, so you'd need to make sure you checked it properly. That would COMPLETELY rule out the H/W, assuming the tool has a 100% accuracy rate that is. We could try that. Otherwise I'd rec: the system restore. I don't know if you are fully aware of how a system restore works, but it done correctly, it is a reversible process, as the action of doing the system restore actually creates a new restore point before making the changes, which you can always restore BACK TO.

I'd only make sure of one thing that could interfere with such a process: Have you ever uninstalled an anti-virus application on your computer (possibly the one that came with the computer, or another type). and if so how did you uninstall it?

Thanks,
Mike
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03 Dec 2011   #19
rubyrubyroo

MS Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit (Family Pack Lic.) Upgrade
 
 

Quote:
Should I do a full backup of my files or is the risk of something failing rather low?
Yes you should always have an up to date backup. It's impossible to know what risk is involved with any operation, even if I could physically see your system details and so forth! So I would backup. Even if you choose not to do the system restore operation.

Quote:
Will I automatically lose the files I've created since the date that I choose for the restore?
You will not lose your "datafiles" such as documents, pictures, website history, etc... just system settings and system files: To be more specific, here is a quote from Microsoft:
Quote:
System Restore affects Windows system files, programs, and registry settings. It can also make changes to scripts, batch files, and other types of executable files created under any user account on your computer. System Restore does not affect personal files, such as e-mail, documents, or photos, so it cannot help you restore a deleted file. If you have backups of your files, you can restore the files from a backup.
Quote:
Any advice on how to find all the data that needs backing up?
Use windows backup , and use the added Create An Image File Also checkbox.


Mike
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03 Dec 2011   #20
Setarkos

Windows 7 Professional 32bit
 
 

Okay, I will do the system restore. I'll do it tomorrow though - no time today. Hope this solves the issue.

(Never uninstalled an antivirus programm)
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